287 thoughts on “Bass vs The Rest of Media”

1. I beg to differ. He may be strong, but there is absolutely impossible that a character could exist that could defeat every other character in all media. Especially since your only reasoning is because he can copy powers (which many, many characters can). And then there’s strategy, durability, reflexes and so much more to consider.

   In other words, take five other ability-copying characters and have their moves co-ordinated by all the greatest strategists and I doubt anyone win. And then add every other character from every other series in every other form of media created and the winner is a given. I’m sorry, he may be powerful, but this fight is an impossibility even for him

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   • He’s not the strongest because of his Get Ability. He’s already massively faster than light and a casual planet buster. Even without his Get Ability I think he can take down guys like Omega Shenron! With the Get Ability he’s unstoppable. How would they be able to destroy him?

     In an instant he can destroy a lot of characters by blowing up the planet. With his awesome speed he could blow up loads of planets before the other characters know what hit them. Once Marvel, DC, and Shounen Jump are knocked out of the battle, the rest of the forms of media will be helpless. Of course I’m currently the only person who thinks Bass can acomplish this feat so it’s okay that you don’t agree. It’s impossible for everyone to agree with everything….that’s my motto anyway

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     • I see where you’re coming from, but even without Jump, DC and Marvel there are a few characters who could cause him a few problems, and many of them could probably survive the destruction of the planet. (Like, say, Makuta Teridax from Bionicle, or Danzo or Madara from Naruto if they used Izanagi). And what about time travellers? Couldn’t, say, Hiro Nakamura from Heroes go back in time and prevent him from ever having been created?
       But anyway, as you say, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

     • Well even if they survive the planet being blown up, Bass can just keep spamming it until they go down. Plus with the Get Ability he’d absorb the powers of the fighters he beat, got hit by, or just absorbed. So imagine Bass with the JLA and Avengers powers! Plus a good Rasenhameha As for the time travel part, I’ve never counted that. Going back to before creation kinda seems like cheating. Though thanks for reminding me, I hadn’t put it in the list of rules yet

     • Also, if the others could hold him off long enough, then Tabuu from Super Smash Bros Brawl could get him with his Off-waves and turn him into a trophy.

     • Well the Off Waves are good, buy I don’t think it would turn Bass into a trophy or defeat him. It beat Mario and friends, but for the most part they’re mere mortals. (That’s why they made sure Sonic wasn’t there, no way would Tabuu have beaten him) Even if Tabuu does make it, he wouldn’t be able to fire it before Bass goes lightspeed and knocks him out

     • I’m pretty sure Sonic would have been affected too (isn’t he mortal?) had he not been fast enough to smash his wings before Tabuu could launch them). But anyway.

       And yeah, Un-creating people usually is creating.

       As for the absorbing powers, I had thought that by absorbing the powers of everyone else, any power-copying characters on the All Other Media team would gain all their powers (as well as Basses). Although most of these copying abilities are limited (like the way the Sharingan can only copy Ninjutsu, Genjutsu and Taijutsu). Doesn’t the Get ability have any limits?

       One more thing, when Bass is destroying the planet, what if Barrigan from Bleach got in the way and aged the attack away? If he attacks him with beams of energy then they would fade before they reached him. If he attacked physically he himself would rot, rust or otherwise fade away.

       Also, I’ve been looking up various sources and Bass appears to be an ordinary “netnavi”. No mention of planet busting anywhere. Could you please help me out here?

     • Sonic is mortal…I suppose. Well he technically is, but I don’t see the blast beating him in one hit. He’s taken hits from far stronger opponents in the past. Of course it’s usually moot since he’s so fast.

       Well most other power copyers are a lot more limited than Bass’s. Bass gets to keep the opponent’s powers added to his own. Plus he has the advantage of starting out with his strongest forms. Plus Bass can get someone’s abilities by

       A. Absorbing them (In other words destroying them or zapping them)
       B. Getting his body obliterated for an instant
       C. Getting badly injured
       D. Grabbing Them

       So he can absorb powers pretty quickly. The Get Ability has no limits so far. Whenever Bass loses they don’t even explain what happens (Basically main character plot hax in the making)

       Well Barragon is able to destroy the blasts because his death attack is quick enough. If the beam was too fast it would destroy him before it was destroyed. Also you rot if you can rot, but Bass is pretty much immortal since he’s a netnavi.

       The Planet Busting and everything is in the manga. I can get you some scans later (Between 4-6) Right now I’m at the library so getting pictures is a bit tough (Long loading times)

2. Bass isnt all powerful. just accept that and move on. he is just a 10 year old boy/robot. he was actually made in Megamans image since he was the first *perfect* Navi.

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   • He is All Powerful! Once you’ve read the manga, watched the anime, played the games, and seen the pics you’ll know it to be true. Age was nothing to do with power. Bass is the strongest being in all of media

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3. wow, i just rememberd tabuu as well

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   • Yeah, Tabuu did have that famous scene where he beat Nintendo Classic!

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4. Okay, here’s why Bass is faster than light and a casual planet buster

   Wiping out 100 enemies in .02 seconds

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_nt_warrior/v03/c003/2.html

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_nt_warrior/v03/c003/3.html

   Blowing people away just by powering up

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_nt_warrior/v03/c003/5.html

   This next part I’m copying and pasting from another site. (I had been making him a respect thread)

   “Well my first attempt at a respect thread. Bass EXE should have one so here goes

   Bass blowing up an island just by powering up

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 001/7.html
   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 001/8.html

   Bass making a barrier too block graviton missilles

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 01/11.html

   Breaking a plane with his energy blast

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 01/12.html

   Bass making an energy beam that exceeds 300 million joules

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 01/14.html

   Blocking a Hubstyle Full power blast

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 002/4.html
   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 002/6.html

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 002/5.html

   Speedblitzing and hand to hand skills

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 02/21.html

   Another beam feat. Parts of the deflected energy blast hit buildings

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 002/6.html
   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 002/7.html

   His Earthbreaker blows apart Hubstyle form

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 02/23.html

   The Hyper Earthbreaker

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 03/13.html

   Sword piercing Bass, but then snapping

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 02/10.html

   Bass’s power increases drastically

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 001/6.html

   Bass getting hit by his own attack, but it does no damage

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 02/20.html
   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 02/21.html

   Bass gets another big power up thanks too the power of Serenade in him now

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 003/6.html

   He gains the ability too reflect beams

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 003/9.html

   Summoning a giant dragon

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 03/18.html

   Bass’s arm sliced in half, but it doesn’t even faze him. So at least some resistance to pain. Also instant regeneration

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 004/9.html

   Yet another power increase

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 004/8.html

   Bass got hit by this

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 04/17.html

   And this

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … v07/c005//

   Yet he still gets up

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 005/5.html

   Speed feat, depending on the laser LS reaction or at least super

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 005/9.html
   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 05/10.html

   Also the laser didn’t take him down

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 05/11.html

   Bass’s aura shaking the earth

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 001/3.html

   Obliterating a fire dragon in an instant

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 03/17.html

   Getting bit by a giant monster thing and not passing out or dying

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 004/6.html

   Also breaking out quickly after

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 04/10.html

   Able too take all of his powers and shoot it into one beam

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 04/11.html

   Dealing damage too Nebula Grey (He absorbs it later on, but the fact that it hurts him is a feat)

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 06/14.html
   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 001/3.html

   Bass tanking a giant beam

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 01/13.html
   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 01/16.html

   Bass absorbing Megaman and turning into the ultimate being of power. He has never been matched in power

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 02/13.html

   Stopping Nebula Grey effortlessly with one finger and blasting a hole through his hand

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 003/2.html
   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 003/3.html

   Bass shooting a giant beam that not even Nebula Grey can absorb

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 003/6.html
   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 003/7.html

   Speedblitzing

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 003/8.html

   His power’s so incredible his body can’t take it

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 003/9.html

   Bass tanking this with little damage if any

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 03/11.html
   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 03/12.html

   Bass’s energy blast going through a portal and still dealing heavy damage

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 03/15.html
   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 03/16.html

   Bass getting bitten by a giant monster and not losing conciousness

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … /last.html

   Bass taking out the Devil Virus in one hit

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 06/15.html

   Not sure how much of a speedfeat this is, but it has some speed

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 01/10.html
   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 01/11.html
   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 01/12.html

   Cool Intro

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 02/16.html

   Bass defeating 100 warriors in .02 seconds

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 003/2.html
   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 003/3.html

   Bass blowing away Megaman and Protoman with his aura

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 003/4.html
   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 003/5.html

   Bass’s barrier withstanding a lot of attacks

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 003/6.html

   Bass’s aura stopping Megaman and Protoman from moving

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 003/9.html

   Bass moving at the speed of light and snapping Megaman’s sword in an instant

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 03/10.html

   If you don’t believe the light speed thing then Bass is at least over mach 5 because Protoman’s over mach 5 and Bass speedblitzes him in his sleep

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 001/8.html
   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 003/9.html

   More Bass speed feats

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 01/18.html
   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 01/19.html

   Bass dodging an attack at point blank range

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 002/7.html

   Bass hitting so hard he makes a shockwave

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 002/8.html

   Speed again

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 02/10.html

   Bass Hubstyle form much stronger than normal form

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 02/20.html

   Bass tanking a sword attack that sliced a building in half

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 004/4.html
   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 004/5.html

   Bass tanking another sword attack

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 004/6.html

   Bass tanking a super punch

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 04/11.html
   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 04/12.html

   One cannon was over 300 million joules so 2…….you get the idea!

   http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_ … 04/15.html

   That’s all for now, but next I’ll get some Game and Anime feats ”

   I didn’t post all of them back then, so if you have some questions about his planet busting legitimacy fire away

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   • No need.
     Even so, I would have thought that since the only other characters he would have fought in canon were other robots and programs, it would be impossible to tell if that would work on living organisms.

     Stronger than Tabuu? Who would that be?

     Even if he destroyed the world, the Chaos Gods from Warhammer would remain. I don’t think even Bass could beat them. Bass can destroy planets and Galaxies and what have you, but they have conquered countless entire universes. And they could return all the dead fighters to life with new powers with a mere thought if they chose to. Not that they’d need to

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     • Well the manga isn’t canon. But in it he appeared in the real world and destroyed Jets with humans inside. He also shook the whole planet just by powering up at one point. Because in the manga he’s not limited to the cyberworld and fights in the real world sometimes.

       Who’s stronger than Tabuu? How about Goku Or did you mean from Nintendo or something?

       But the more Bass fights them, the less hope they have. He’d absorb their powers and the powers of the people they revive. This is why BAss is unstoppable

     • Nurgle and Khorne could probably destroy him a few times, but Bass may be able to beat them because he keeps coming back. Slaanesh’s temptations probably wouldn’t get to him

       The one who’d really get him is Tzeetnch. After setting eyes on Tzeentch, he’d go irrevocably insane. And knowing Tzeentch, any powers he gives his chosen ones to fight Bass with would have inherent weaknesses that Tzeentch himself could take advantage of. In the end, Tzeentch would probably trick him into deleting his own data in his madness. Tzeentch is just too tricksy. Even if Bass could win, he’d be a pale reflection of what he once was.

       And I was asking what foes Sonic had beaten that were stronger than Tabuu. Goku probably is stronger than him though. Unless the Off-waves affect him…

     • Well if Nurgle and Khorne destroy him once he will absorb their powers. As for the going crazy part, it’d be tough to make Bass go insane. Of course he could probably just reboot himself.

       Well, I’d pick Shadow, Metal Sonic, Mephiles, Emerl, and Scourge to take down Tabuu. Those guys are a lot stronger than they first appear to be. It would be cool to see a Goku trophy

     • It would be tough to do so, and he’d probably be able to resist much longer than most people, but eventually his mind would start to be affected.

       As for Nurgle and Khorne, Khorne would still hold the advantage for a while against Bass in that while his powers have been copied, he would still have more battle experience and skill than Bass.

     • Well to heal himself he absorbs bugs, so that could maybe heal his mind.

       But remember, Bass gets their abilities added to his own. So he’ll be faster and stronger than them at that point. Plus he’s still an expert at hand to hand combat!

     • Perhaps. Does it happen automatically?

       Bass may be a skilled hand-to-hand fighter, but Khorne has existed since long, long before the universe began. And all that time was spent in battle. When it comes to melée skill and rage, Khorne is unstoppable.

     • Not auto, but pretty fast. Basically be points his arm at some data and it evaporates into bugs for him to absorb

       Yes, but Bass has a lot of combat experience. He outfought a General Navi and also beat Megaman at hand to hand….Megaman! The navi who’s fought more villains in 5 years than most heroes do in their life! That’s some hand to hand abilities!

     • But in the real world with the Earth destroyed, wouldn’t data be hard to come by?

     • Yeah, it probably would be. But when the world’s destroyed I figured the data would still be floating around. All Bass has to do is snag it

     • What does Bass seek? What is his main goal?

     • His main goal is just to be the strongest. Plus he wants everyone to know that he’s the strongest. So if there’s some big villain out there claiming to be the stronget, Bass will appear just to take him down. That’s why he’s always fighting Megaman, since everyone says Megaman is the ultimate navi

     • As I say, that’s assuming he can survive having their powers. Having Tzeentch’s powers is maddening enough, but the others as well? His body and mind would collapse.

       Plus Tzeentch is too paranoid not to allow for that. No-one with the powers of his minions could stand against him because he gives them negative powers as well.
       For example, Tzeentch’s minion The Changeling can transform into an exact replica of his opponent, with their skills, powers, strength and speed, but he can’t copy Tzeentch himself. After fighting The Changeling, he couldn’t copy Tzeentch.

     • I’d say he could survive having their powers. Even if he imploded or something, then his Get Ability would instantly reform him with a body that could handle it. As for his mind, that I don’t see collapsing. Bass has never come even close to cracking and he’s one of the sanest characters I’ve ever seen!

       Well even if the powers wouldn’t work on Tzeentch, I still don’t see how he could survive a Bass speedblitz. Bass could use some hand to hand and planet busting skills in an instant to completely destroy him

   • Besides, the moment Bass copys one of the Chaos God’s minions powers, they are linked to them, and they could simply remove Bass’s powers as “the gift of normality” or such, and make him into a normal human or such. Or a Chaos Spawn. Or “upgrade” his Get ability into a “Give” ability that gives away powers to others rather than allowing the user to copy them.

     When it comes to Tzeentch vs Bass though, it’s like an insurmountable force meets an immovable object. Except the immovable object finds a way to bypass the insurmountable force’s insurmountability and thus surmount it. Tzeentch plans everything out millenia in advance. His plans are infinitely complex and even if Bass could copy the full power of all four Chaos Gods, Tzeentch would outwit him and turn all that against him.

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     • But, if anything he would be their master. Since he would have their abilities plus his own, he could remove their abilities. Plus he still has a massive speed and power advantage so he could possibly destroy them before they even notice.

       The problem with making a plan that far ahead is that their can be some unforseen elements. Things he couldn’t control, like global warming, and other stuff. Even if he thought of those, Bass is unpredictable. Even if Tzeentch knows what Bass is gonna do, that doesn’t mean he can stop Bass. Bass can move faster than the eye can see and destroy whole planets and such. Not to mention that his barrier blocks all projectiles and he can reflect all projectiles

     • But what if the Chaos Gods mutated him before fighting him themselves? They tend to send their minions frist in-series (mostly because they have no way to fit through the rifts and get into another world themselves) He wouldn’t have their powers so he wouldn’t have any leverage against them power-wise. They could, as mentioned above, change his abilities to something a lot less threatening, reverse his Get ability and mutate his body into a pitiful slimy creature that Khorne could add to his trophy collection. Once they have him, he’d be nothing but their plaything.

     • Well, they can’t really change his abilities. At least, that sounds like an ability that wouldn’t work on the blog. It’s like how The One Above All is powerless on the blog because all of his powers make fighting not really real. Altering someone’s powers a bit may be fine, if it’s a beam or something that can be evaded, but if its something that just happens then it doesn’t really work. Also I doubt they could just reverse his Get Ability. It would adapt and evolve Bass into an even more ultimate life form

     • It would make sense, then, if Bass were to fight “All of Media except the Chaos Gods”. If you take that awit’sIt like he’s not really fighting the Chaos Gods at all.

       Besides, it’s hardly any less fair than the Get ability. They can only usually do that to someone who has accepted their Mark. It only works on Bass because he would have copied the powers of the Mark with the Get ability.

     • Well, I need to read up more on the Chaos Gods, but it’s just that I don’t agree with some abilities. You can’t just be willed out of existence or forced to do something you don’t want to do. Powers like that are usually taken out. There’s always a choice thanks to will power. It’s like how Telepaths aren’t much help on the blog, since I think almost any character should be able to resist.

       Also how I see it, if Bass got the Mark, then they still will have no control over him. They can try and switch his abilities, but it wouldn’t affect him thanks to the Get Ability. The Get Ability’s still fair because it just copies and helps Bass pwn. It doesn’t do anything unblog like

     • I think that really depends on the character. There are those with the willpower to resist these things, but not just anyone can do it. If they can get him to copy or agree to a Mark of Chaos, they can do what they want with his powers up to and including the Get ability.

       If it just copies, how come it:
       1. Allows him to come back from the dead (does it copy the fact they’re alive?)
       2. Make him immune to having his abilities changed

       I mean, how do you define an ability as “unblog-like”? Rather than ruling out the abilities (giving an inaccurate representation of the character), couldn’t you just prohibit use of the character themself? It may sound strange but I think a lot of people would prefer that.

     • Well, it’s like, for instance Dr Manhattan. If he were face to face with Nate The Great he couldn’t just wave his hand and make Nate The Great die. It just doesn’t work that way. I don’t count fights like that. Or mind control Nate The Great not to move while he destroys him. It takes away from the actual battle.

       It still depends how they alter his powers. If they just think it and his powers switch then that probably won’t work.

       The Get Ability is basically broken. Of course Bass is invincible which I guess also makes him a bit broken. He’s not really dead when it revives him, more like he’s injured or his material body is broken.

       It’s tough deciding which abilities don’t make it. I guess if it takes away from the fight a lot then I’ll rule it out. Prohibiting whole characters would be sad for their fans

     • I see. I guess in the long run that ability is mostly used on their minions to empower/mutate them. But even so, even without mutating him, Tzeentch probably has a room in his Impossible Fortress that renders Bass’s Get ability unusable. Like one in which data-based beings like Bass are flesh and blood and vice-versa, and thus Bass can’t use any of his programs.

       Getting him to go there would be trickier, though. It’s possible a daemon of some kind could teleport him there, but only by creating a portal which Bass could dodge easily and even were he to be caught in it he could probably resist its pull, or pass back through before it closes.

       If Bass was created with the power he has now, couldn’t whoever made him just make a stronger version with a stronger “Ultimate program V2″ using technology and knowledge from other technology or data-based characters like the Autobots, Decepticons, Digimon, Agents (from the Matrix) and such? Just asking

     • Well Bass is flesh and blood. As shown in the manga he still bleeds and is basically like an organic in every way. Trust me, you should check out the manga. As for the room, how powerful is it? Couldn’t Bass just destroy it along with the planet/universe?

       Since Bass is Light Speed at the slowest it would be tough to get in the portal. of course Tzeentch has the rest of media there to help.

       Well when Bass was first created he wasn’t too powerful. I guess maybe Goku from DBZ chapter 1? Sounds about right, but the guy who made him was executed I think. I’m pretty sure his fate was pretty vague (But he’s pretty awful. He abandoned Bass at his time of need. (Wasn’t his choice) (That’s how Bass turned evil)) Well they’d need the Ultimate Program and that cannot be created. It’s kinda like the Matrix or the Force. It can’t really be created so much as it was always there, or the creators couldn’t make another one. It would be tricky

     • Tzeentch has rooms with every variation of conditions imaginable. In each one, it’s like the laws of physics are completely different. In one, for example, a person who visits it may find their movements reversed, with walking forward taking them backwards and vice versa, while in another room, they might find that anyone who speaks the letter M bursts into flames. If Bass finds himself in one where his powers count for naught, he’d be in serious trouble. If Tzeentch stayed in his castle, he’d probably be safe, but I guess it’d be stalemate because he’d be stuck there and wouldn’t be able to force Bass to go into the castle.

     • Also do the rooms effects affect Tzeentch himself? I’d assume not, but I wanted to make sure. Do any of the rooms negate powers? Most of those sound like they would only slow Bass down, but if he doesn’t know about the M and says it, that could be trouble. Of course if any of the other characters come to finish Bass off then they would feel the effects as well. I guess it’s a pretty big gamble then eh?

     • Those were only examples, they could have any rules imaginable

     • But every character has limits. So, has he shown that he would make a room that negates powers? Since we only go by things that have been shown. Taking away powers is pretty tricky even for the strongest of fighters

     • It’s not so much taking away powers as the laws of physics being different there in such a way that they don’t work. And it doesn’t exactly describe any any particular room, it just says that every room is different and that every imaginable variant is there. But maybe in your rules, since no individual room has written conditions then none of them are allowed, but still

     • Yeah, since it’s not shown they may not count. Do these guys have any actual feats from the games and stuff, or is it all just legends? Like have they ever actually fought onscreen?

5. What happened to my comment?

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   • Never mind, my computer didn’t scroll down far enough

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     • It happens, the bigger the page the more chance of it happening I suppose

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6. Well he doesn’t have a power advantage by any means against Khorne. I doubt he’s faster than Slaanesh either. And I don’t think his body could withstand the sheer power of four of fiction’s most powerful deities. I think his mind and body would be warped beyond recognition by containing their power.

   But even if it wasn’t, Tzeentch has The Changling. A demon that can turn into an exact replica of any being except Tzeentch himself. When Bass fights him, he’d effectively be fighting himself. And afterwards, if he survived, by copying the Changeling’s powers he would effectively bar his own ability to copy Tzeentch.

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   • And believe me, Tzeentch could predict global warming coming. He probably planned for it and may even be causing it

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     • Him causing Global Warming would be downright epic!

   • Well even if he doesn’t have the power or speed advantage at first, he would before long. He can keep pressuring them by fighting fast and hard. Either destroying them, or forcing them to destroy him. If they destroy him then he gets their powers. Or if he manages to grab them he can take their powers. So then his mind will be as good as theirs and his power unbounded.

     Well the demon copies the powers right? Nothing’s limitless so I’m not sure it could exactly copy Bass’s power. Even if he did, Bass has more experience with his abilities than the Changeling. As for it stopping him from copying Tzeentch, it would be temporary at best. The Ultimate Program inside of Bass automatically heals itself in case of stuff like that. So once it’s healed Bass would be ready to pwn

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     • You’re right, while the Changeling can copy the form of any being but Tzeentch, but I think Tzeentch would have an easier job of winning the Great Game if the Changeling could just turn into one of the other Chaos Gods and use all their power. So there’s probably an upper limit to who he can copy the power of. That said, there’s nothing on a tabletop level he can’t copy in-game.

       But then Khorne gains power from every drop of blood spilled thoughout every world in every universe in existance. Even when his abilities are copied, he’d eventually become more powerful than Bass again, and Bass couldn’t copy that since it’s less an ability and more simply what he is; if he could copy that, he would cease to be Bass and would simply become Khorne

       Same applies to Nurgle (spread of disease, famine and decay), Slaanesh (art and pleasure) and Tzeentch (change)

     • Yes, but Khorne’s ability may not be fast enough to save him. Because his power level probably only goes up slightly each time. So Bass would finish him off the moment he’s stronger. Also since he’d have the powers of a lot of other beings, after he gets Khorne’s abilities they wouldn’t even be close in power. Since Bass already has the power of Megaman (Casual Planet Buster) Nebula Grey (Embodiment of Darkness) Slur (Uber tough netnavi) Pharohman (Guy who deleted Megaman) and more

     • Also, the changeling can also copy experience in some way (more or less. I think he simply copies their entire fighting style)

     • I still think that sounds like he gets their fighting style, but no knowledge of it. He’ll just do what his opponent would have done with it, but without their strategy. This is something a lot of shows seem to forget sadly. Still, at least it sounds like these guys will give Bass a better fight than a lot of other opponents

7. oh so now there is another being that matches Bass’s so called “infinite power”? you forget Dreager, the Ultimate Program is useless when taking maximum amount of damage. it CAN be destroyed, the ability itself can. ive done my research.
   Bass may be the strongest being in his media, Gemini is the strongest in his. as is Vegeto SSJ4 in his.
   btw, Galactian explosion is about 3x as strong as Big Bang Kamehameha. i know this because ive seen it.

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   • We never said he could match Bass’s power

     When has the Ultimate Program been destroyed in high canon? Let’s have a link, Bass is invincible btw.

     Well there’s the difference. Gemini Saga is the strongest Saint Seiya character (Maybe) VegitoSSJ4 is the strongest DBZ character, but Bass is the strongest character in all of media

     Big Bang Kamehameha is stronger. Nothing can survive a shot like that!

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     • lol you dont know that for a fact. it has never been done. Gemini can EASILY get the power of the universe, and shoot it out in a Universal Expansion (HE JUST GOT this ability, in the last 5 episodes, when he absorbes Tameharashu Saga and gained his power)
       lol that or it could be Universal Explosion. that is still a galactian explosion just stronger.
       and no way a big bang kamehameha is stronger.
       DBZ talks alot of trash, but the only one that destroys galaxies is Cell (maybe) and Broly. broly has solid evidence. so, SSJ4 Vegeto is about 5,000 times stronger then broly, easy. correct?
       (BTW HOW DOES SSJ5 BROGOGETA SOUND?)

     • Trust me, I can tell. The regular Kamehameha can rip holes through dimensions. A Big Bang Kamehameha could potentially end everything! I know Saga is tough, but after a while he just can’t get higher. He’s DBZ level, but not quite Big Bang level. Well if Cell can blow up galaxies so can pretty much every villain after him. That’s a lot of villains! SSJ4 Vegito may even be stronger than that. Once we get to those levels it’s just crazy how powerful they get!

       Brogogeta sounds good, but how about Brogolygeta? Pretty epic!

     • yeah epic.
       Vegokoly is another suggestion
       or Vegetoly?

     • I think I’d go with Koly. It sounds more like a vegetable (And most of their names are Vege puns so it makes sense)

8. Tzeench is the God of Chaos.
   lol isnt TOAA a god? also Dr. Manhattan? oh and Eternity.

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   • Yeah, TOAA is above gods, Dr M is pretty much a god, Eternity is kind of an entity that’s also above gods….in their universes Not sure who would win in those, the feats are all kind of tricky for them

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     • Well as Dakota Walton says, his ultimate program can be overpowered. If any being could do it, it would be the Chaos Gods.

       Also, what about “Mr Shadow” from The Fifth Element? Since any attack other than from the five elements weapon will only make it larger and stronger, Bass would be unable to destroy it. All the others have to do is break one of the stones and it can’t be stopped.

     • But Dakota failed to show any proof. The Get Ability cannot be overpowered, just temporarily delayed. Bass is invincible!

       Well eventually Mr Shadow would destroy Bass right? Then Bass would come back with his powers and win. Or Bass could just absorb him instead of fighting him.

     • Also, when before I said:

       “it would be impossible to tell if that would work on living organisms”

       I was referring to the Get ability

     • Well, the Get Ability should work. Technically the net navies are alive. Even though they are data they bleed and everything. Also he has beaten up humans when they were fully synced wit the navies.

     • What I meant was could he “Get” a being with no data?

       And in that respect, a fight between Mr. Shadow and Bass would be endless, wouldn’t it?

       Also, wouldn’t Bass be thoroughly destroyed if the Daleks used the Reality Bomb?

     • Yeah, I like to think he could. It shouldn’t be too different.

       Well I figure Bass can just absorb Mr Shadow and end the fight.

       I don’t think the Reality Bomb has enough power to destroy Bass. I’d take a kamehameha any day

     • I guess so

       If he absorbed him, since Mr. Shadow is like a ball of sheer concentrated evil, I would think Bass would get absorbed from the inside. Absorbing him probably counts as an attack

       I’m sorry, Kamehameha is SO much weaker than the reality bomb.

       http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=GB#/watch?v=WHujK0lwIdI

       Now admittedly Bass could try to stop it before it activates, but if it had already been activated, I doubt even Bass’s data that he uses to resurrect himself could survive. And if the entire rest of the media were holding him back, I’m sure he wouldn’t be able to reach the crucible in ten rells (Dalek seconds)

     • Don’t forget Bass is the King of Darkness! Also the dark power did get merged with him at one point, but he was able to control it. His will is extremely powerful because his Will even Transcends Deletion! So while Bass would be even more evil I don’t think he would get absorbed or controlled. If it was tough his Ultimate Program and Get Ability would help upgrade his body to contain it.

       Well, the Reality Bomb is tough, but it’s still basically an energy attack. The only difference is that it destroys whatever it touches. So if Naruto clashed against it with a Rasengan, I think the Rasengan would break through, ending the attack. I’d say it’s weaker than the Hub Blast so it shouldn’t do much (or any) damage to Bass. Remember, Bass’s cape blocks all projectiles and he can also use his Reflectance to block any beam and send it back at the opponent.

     • It’s actually not an energy attack at all; in fact it’s quite the opposite. It cancels out electrical energy all the way to a subatomic level so structure simply falls apart.

     • But how I see it, it’s still pretty much an attack. It’s strong, but if the electricity is too powerful then it won’t be able to work. So Bass’s life energy is way too powerful. Same with the Kamehameha…it’s pure energy!

     • If it can cancel out all the electrical energy in an infinite number of parallel universes, then why is Bass safe? He has a lot of power, but it’s not infinite. Like the rest of the universes, he would become dust. And the dust would become atoms, and… you get the idea

     • Well, he’s Bass. His energy is pretty much infinite. Also I wouldn’t say the Reality Bomb could take most of the B level opponents (B level means slightly less than planet buster) It’s a strong blast, but I’d say the same effect is like that of an energy wave. It’s like Tabuu’s attack, it turns you into a trophy….if the character wasn’t strong enough. Like, I don’t think it would turn Link into a trophy. He did in the game, but I think he would be able to tank the hit. So for Bass, I think the attack wouldn’t be able to take him down or get past his barrier. Bass could possibly even reflect it thanks to his Reflectance

     • It’s kind of different from an energy wave. It’s more of a wave that cancels out electrical energy. And without electrical energy, no structure as we no it can be sustained. No matter how much of it you have, if electrical energy ceases to have effect, it’s like Davros says in the clip I posted earlier.

       And Tabuu did turn Link into a trophy, there’s no other way around it. Maybe Tabuu is simply a lot stronger than you’re giving him credit for (I’d definitely say he’s stronger than Link or Sonic)

     • Yes, but if the energy is strong enough it could cause the energy wave to go back. It needs to stop the energy, but if it can’t, then the bomb won’t work. Like, if it hit Samus. It might drain some health out of the armor, but it probably couldn’t destroy it.

       Well, Link was potentially weakened from the journey. How could Tabuu beat Sonic? Sonic could just move at faster than light speeds and ram through Tabuu

     • Is there any evidence of this? Also, if it can cancel out AN INFINITE NUMBER OF ENTIRE PARALLEL UNIVERSES then what in the heck has more than infinite energy?

       The answer is no-one. Nothing can have more than an infinite amount of anything. The title “reality bomb” is actually a bit misleading as it’s not actually a bomb

       As for Tabuu, why would Link need to have been weakened to have been beaten? He’s strong, but Tabuu had Master Hand on strings like a puppet, and Master Hand is often states to be like an embodiment of creative spirit or something. Dodging a wave that spreads out in all directions would be near-impossible too. (Although it looks like it only goes on one plane so perhaps it would be possible to jump or fly over it…)

     • Well, Universes are definitely vast, but I’ve always had it stacked up; Characters>>Items>>>Locations So even if the bomb could stop the universes, that doesn’t mean it could stop the Power Star, which in turn couldn’t stop Ichigo. These characters have tanked extremely powerful hits! This bomb that’s not a bomb sounds tough, but I still don’t think it could one shot these guys.

       Well Link had previously fought Mario, Yoshi, and more, but I forgot all of is opponents. The Master Hand is a decent fighter, but I’d say most of the SSBB fighters could take him down. Link may not have to dodge the blast as long as he has his shield. Then he could potentially block it.

9. Well the intention of the weapon was to wipe out every life form in existance except the Daleks themselves…

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   • I’d say they made a pretty good weapon. In their series it probably would have wiped out all of life

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10. Well since it’s mostly all tabletop games, they’re far too powerful to have in-game rules for them. But it describes the Realm of Chaos in the books (most of all the Daemons of Chaos one since each Daemon is like a part of their respective god), and a couple of stories of things that happen there. Since all Chaos magic comes from the Chaos Gods themselves, though, it’s pretty clear they exist in Warhammer continuity and thus most if not all of this is true.

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    • Well, that sounds like it won’t work then. I only really go by shown feats. It’s like how, if Dumbledore told Harry that Voldemort could obliterate planets with a single blast I wouldn’t believe him. I only go by shownfeats. So then a lot of the Warhammer and World of Warcaft characters wouldn’t be as powerful as usual.

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      • But all this is written in the army books, which are the main source of canon for Warhammer. If you only count on-screen appearances, half the armies can’t be used at all.

        Also, Bass may perhaps be the strongest being in media, but The Doctor is the smartest. Maybe he could figure out a way to stop Bass.

      • Well, one thing is only fighters who have a picture available can fight on the blog, so if they have no pics then hat could be dicey. I still may use some feats, but with books it’s a Lot trickier. It helps if I’ve read the books myself, but it’s not like I can read every book. I guess I’ll just have to do a lot of research. At least you’ve already told me a lot about them so that helps

        The Doctor is smart, but in the end he’s still human right? So if Bass blows up the planet from the Get go, that should take him out. Even if someone like Superman saved Doctor before the explosion hits, he probably can’t breath in space.

      • He’s no human, he’s a Time Lord, a human-like alien from Gallifrey! The Doctor wouldn’t let him blow up the planet, but even if it did get destroyed, he could escape in the TARDIS.

      • Wow, I always thought he was a human……well thanks for enlightening me So what are his powers? I know Time Lords are good as going through time and know things, but do they have any offensive capabilities?

      • And as for the Chaos Gods, there’s no pictures of them, but they do give a description of each.

      • Uh oh….hopefully fan art. A fighter needs a pic to be in the blog because I always give pics for the battles. They’ll probably have fan art though

      • Time Lords have no real offensive powers apart from intelligence, although Time Lord weaponry (like the Master’s Laser Screwdriver) seem very powerful. Especially during the time war. The Doctor doesn’t have any real weapons though. He has his Sonic Screwdriver, but it’s not a weapon. And it doesn’t work on wood. But it can do quite a lot of other things.

        Non-offensively, though, they have a few notable ones. Most notable of all is regeneration; if they die, they come back with a new body and a different personality to some degree, although it has been suggested that each Time Lord can only Regenerate twelve times. If they have a severed part of them to hand, they can heal the injury that caused them to need to regenerate without needing to change (and, by extension, probably not use up a regeneration). If another being touches this severed part afterwards, they become a half-Time Lord, half whatever they were before hybrid, and the part regenerates into a second hybrid resembling the original Time Lord (although if this happens to a human, their body can’t withstand having a Time Lord consciousness for long, so in the one instance we’ve seen it used, he had to wipe his companion’s memories so she wouldn’t die. On that note, they also have some form of mind reading, but it seems to require the other person’s consent.
        Finally, they have two hearts, so anything that stops or destroys the enemy’s heart doesn’t kill them. This also seems to give them some kind of electrical resistance

        But overall, intelligence is their main asset

      • So, in the end they’ll need to try and live long enough to think of a way to beat Bass. I still think a planet buster should be able to finish both hearts in one shot. Of course Bass could go the long way and move at light speeds to take everyone out. Still, at least the Doctor is tougher than I thought he was.

      • Well, couldn’t he just take the TARDIS somewhere far away while he thinks up a plan? Or even into the past?

        And any attack that destroyed his entire body in one go would probably stop him from regenerating, so surviving a direct attack from Bass was never really an option for the Doctor

      • Could you explain the TARDIS for me? I’ve heard it mentioned, but I’m not sure what it is. Is it kinda like a Spaceship? Because then I’m not sure it could outspeed Bass. As for going into the past, how fast could he time travel? Either way Time Travel is a tricky thing on the blog.

        Well, I guess Bass just needs to land the hit in then

11. It can dematerialise in one place and reappear in anotherplace or time. Alternately, it can fly like a normal space ship.

    http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=GB#/watch?v=HwROFMKWYaA

    I should probably point out a few other things:
    1. It’s bigger on the inside
    2. It has very powerful shields, despite appearing to be made of wood
    3. The amount of power it has is enough to tear an enormous hole in the universe. Or temporarily give one of the Doctor’s human companions the power to control life, death, time and space. Or, if it’s time-travelling and explodes for any reason, every point in time simultaneously.

    Also, I just thought of a way the All Other Media Army could win this. You said before that the Reality Bomb wouldn’t work because it doesn’t have enough power to destroy Bass, right? So what if it had a power source four times greater than Bass himself?

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    • Okay, pretty cool. So, we just have to decide if we think the shields can tank an Earthbreaker, much less a Hyper Earthbreaker.

      Well, that’d be a mighty impressive reality bomb! Well, they’d have to be able to activate it before Bass blows it up. And stop Bass from going in the Dalek stronghold that’s immune to the bomb. Though I still think it would work a bit like an EMP. It would stop the electrons in Bass, but only temporarily. Then he’d just start functioning again

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      • But they’d have time if the rest of the media was holding him back. Every single Digimon at once plus Superman and Bo-bobo could probably manage about a minute, which is probably all the time the Doctor would need to rig up a system whereby the TARDIS plus four Dittos taking on Bass’s form could feed energy to the Reality Bomb. After that, there’d be nothing left for Bass to make a new body out of.

        Also, is Megaman set on another planet?

      • Well, the reality bomb will disrupt the electrons and essentially turn him off right? Like, that’s how it destroys reality, by ripping the molecules out of everything and splitting it across the universe. So this could potentially slow Bass down and put him off line for a bit. Though I don’t think it would finish him off. The Ultimate Program keeps on absorbing and adapting. It may just start to work with broken molecules or just get the ability to break molecules.

        I’m not even sure if they could last a minute to be honest. I’d say Bass is even faster than SSJ4 Gogeta, which is pretty fast. So he could go around spamming planet busting attacks everywhere while moving faster than light.

        Megaman’s set on Earth usually. Once in a while they’ll go to space for the lols and lulz, but in the end it’s usually earth

      • Not quite. It cancels out the effect of electrical energy itself, so there’s no force holding matter together and the cosmos just falls apart

        If that’s the case, what planet did Bass destroy? It wasn’t Neptune was it?

      • So, it should take Bass offline for a moment. I still think the Ultimate Program would just automatically reboot.

        He never blew any planets up because of Megaman and friends. But he definitely could

        Bass blowing apart a Dark Gate aka probably a Black Hole

        http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_nt_warrior/v11/c003/15.html

        Bass shaking the earth apart

        http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_nt_warrior/v13/c001/3.html

        And just lots of other Bass feats scattered around the manga. I’d say he’s even stronger than the Saiyans!

      • And between them, I’m fairly certain even Bass wouldn’t be able to beat them in under a minute. Bo-bobo could keep a single Super Fist attack going for longer than that.

      • But let’s say that Bass is 10 X FTL, he could be in about 100 different places at once pretty much. He could just keep on stabbing everyone

      • Also, with regards the Chaos Gods, maybe you could use their icons or something for their pics

      • Yes, as long as it’s something that shows them it’s good. Can you send me a link to an icon? I know pretty much nothing about the whole franchise so I’m mostly in the dark

      • I see. At least Neptune’s ok!

        If Bo-bobo got stabbed by Bass, he’d be fine, he’d just turn into a cabbage again or somehow block one of Bass’s attacks with a handkerchief or something crazy like that

        Sure! If you don’t know that much about them, here’s a few links; there should be pictures on these as well as a bit of extra info
        Here’s Khorne’s page:
        http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Khorne
        Here’s Tzeentch:
        http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Tzeentch
        Here’s Nurgle:
        http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Nurgle
        And finally Slaanesh:
        http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Slaanesh

      • Well, the force of the attack may still take out Bo-bobo. Since his aura shakes the earth, imagine how much force would be behind a stab!

        Well, now I can learn more about those guys! Thanks for the links

      • Ok, if that doesn’t convince you, add Omega Supreme, Trypticon, Grimlock, Mewtwo, SpaceGodzilla and Bo-bobo’s evil older brother Bi-bibi to the “hold back Bass” team

        And after the Quadruple Bass Reality Bomb, there’d be no matter to rebuild a body for Bass (or to store the Ultimate Program for that matter), would there?

      • Yeah, I guess it depends if Bass wants to stretch things out or not. Though even if they fire the Reality Bomb, I don’t think it would be able to obliterate Bass’s body. It’s just pretty much unbreakable and super advances. With his data constantly upgrading and regrouping I think it’d come back together instantly. It’s like how a laser can melt what it hits, but if a laser hits Goku it won’t (Because Goku’s body is tough)

      • However tough you are, the energy holding your body together is the same, albeit in this case there’s more of it. With no electrical energy left, there’d be nothing to re-bind Bass’s body back together

      • Yes, but if the energy lays dormant, or is deep in reconfiguring, I figured it may not work. Like how when Prowl blasted Starscream with the EMP (In Transformers Animated) (The EMP can knock out any robot in a single blow because it turns all of their powers off) Starscream managed to still get up and escape because he had 2 power sources. The All Spark fragment that was inside of him, managed to revive him.

        So, I figured with Bass, it would wipe out the electricity in his body, but then the Get Ability or Back Up Data would kick in and he’d be just fine. Or his Ultimate Program

      • So you’re saying he could convert some of the energy in the Ultimate Program or Backup data into more electrical energy to bind himself back together? That’s a logical theory, I’ll give you that one if you can tell me how the Ultimate Program itself survived. As a program, it must have to be stored somewhere, with its container gone how would the program survive?

        And what’s to stop the Daleks detonating the Reality Bomb again?

      • Well, while Bass’s body’s being destroyed, the Ultimate Program could start reassembling him. Kind of like here

        http://www.mangahere.com/manga/megaman_nt_warrior/v08/c006/9.html

        *read next few pages*

        As for them firing it twice, Bass’s Get Ability makes him stronger each time. So odds are it wouldn’t work a second time. Nothing can really stop him twice

12. I’m guessing Bass stores most of his energy as electrical energy most of the time. So if any electrical energy he had was cancelled out, and he was bonded back together with some of whatever energy he had left, he’d be pretty low on energy. In that state, what’s to stop

    A. Teridax or any of the other Makuta using their molecular disruption, stasis field, or any of their other powers to defeat him

    B. Avak trapping him with his Prison powers

    C. Any surviving Digimon or Mr Smith from the Matrix simply absorbing his data

    D. An incredibly powerful energy attack (say, a Kamehameha from every Saiyan in existance, a Cero from every Arrancar and Hollow, the superlasers on the Death Star and the Death Star II, a powerful ninjutsu from every Kage that has ever lived plus Naruto, Sasuke, Kakashi, Itachi, Killer Bee, Jiraiya, Orochimaru, Pain, Madara and the Sage of Six Paths, Final Getsuga Tenshou, Mewtwo’s Psystrike, Palkia’s Spacial Rend, Dialga’s Roar of Time, Reshiram’s Blue Flare, Zekrom’s Bolt Strike, Ho-oh’s Sacred Fire, Lugia’s Aeroblast, Heatran’s Magma Storm, Groudon’s Eruption, Kyogre’s Water Spout, Rayquaza’s Draco Meteor, Deoxys’ Psycho Boost, and the gunfire of every Transformer all rolled into one unstoppable beam.

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    • Yes, but Bass has instant regeneration so he wouldn’t be weakened for long. Like in the manga vol 7, after Megaman threw him through a lot of buildings, cut off his arm, and beat him up for well over 100 pages (Ending the fight by slamming Bass into the ground from really high) Bass had already recovered a bit when he got up.

      A I’m not sure if they could scramble his molecules. He’s a netnavi, his data’s all over the place anyway.

      B No prison can hold Bass

      C If they tried absorbing him, they’d end up with a lot of bugs and prbably die

      D. Well, first it’d be tough for the beams to not cancel out since they’re so many of them and so different. Of course if they do merge all of their beams into an incredibly large one, it would be there downfall. Bass can reflect the beam, causing it to go back at them. (with double power? I thought it was mentioned, but I’m not positive) Yeah, Bass is a Boss!

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      • Ok, I didn’t really expect Option C to work anyway, but even so, the fact Megaman could harm him in the first place has got to mean Option D could break through whatever defence he has that reflects beams like that, right?Assuming they could fuse into one beam. If not, they could just bombard him with these attacks individually. I don’t believe you mentioned the double power thing, but every energy-reflecting or absorbing power has got to have limits, if nothing else in how fast they can be activated. Also, if he wasn’t already fully healed by the time he stood up, would he recover from the Reality Bomb in time?
        Avak’s prison power is a curious case. When he makes it, it comes automatically made to counter the abilities of its occupant. For example, he used it on Kopaka and it created a cage of flames so hot, Kopaka couldn’t put them out. Even Tahu hasn’t managed that yet, so if there are limits to it, they must be very loose.

      • Megaman didn’t hurt him with a beam. He tried, but it didn’t affect him thanks to his barrier. Megaman was only doing so much damage to him through hand to hand combat. ‘

        I agree that his beam reflecting has limits. There’s no such thing as no limits and it wouldn’t be fair to assume that Bass didn’t. He’s been hit with beams from behind so it’s possible that he needs to know that it’s coming. Of course with a big beam like that he’d probably see it coming. If they all shoot a lot of small beams, then he can probably dodge at super speeds, reflect some, and just let some bounce off of his cloak.

        He’d probably have to take a lot of hits while he’s recovering from the Reality Bomb, but let’s not forget his high speed regeneration. Their attacks probably wouldn’t do much damage thanks to that and when he’s ready to fight they could be doomed.

        For Avak’s prison, it’s just, how could he stop Bass from breaking out? He could counter his dark energy with light energy, but Bass has never been weak against light. And he could rip apart whatever steel or material the cage is made of. Or he power up and blow the whole planet apart along with the cage.

      • Yeah, if the beam couldn’t come togather properly then it probably wouldn’t work. But if it did…

        The thing is, Avak’s prison is made of whatever it needs to be to counter the powers of its target captive; it doesn’t have a set material. For Kopaka, it was a flame cage, for a Makuta it would be made of light, etc., so whatever would be needed to trap Bass, he could summon it. Of course, he’d need someone to hold Bass in one place long enough to activate it.

      • Well..if it did I still think he could reflect it, tank it, or dodge it. If it hit him that would definitely do some massive damage!

        But what if there is just nothing that can trap Bass? Then would the cage just shortcircuit or something?

13. wow. how about you settle this?
    Teridax vs Bass

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    • Bass vs Teridax Accepted!!…or almost anyway.

      How will putting the King of the High Aboves against Teridax settle this?

      Either way it’s already done

      http://dreager1.com/2012/07/30/bass-vs-teridax/

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14. lol. i dunno.
    but Teridax does sound pretty powerful. hmmm..
    Teridax vs Broly

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    • Teridax vs Broly Accepted!

      I guess you don’t like Teridax huh?

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15. didnt say that.
    he sounds pretty powerful. i wouldnt say too OP that he could handle Gemini,
    but i would say he beats the lights out of beings like Superman and Green goblin ( hint, hint)

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    • Well okay Beating Superman and GG is tough. Remember, Superman has his Gold 1 Million form!

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16. not really, he has his Ka-lil 1 million prime form tho!
    btw he also held thors hammer and has a green lantern ring.

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    • Yeah, that’s his Gold 1 Million form. With it he’s unstoppable! See, this is why Superman’s the man of steel

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      • Bear in mind though, Teridax has a planet-sized nigh-invurnerable body, a list of more than forty formidable powers (containing nearly every power imaginable, including all Superman’s basic powers and many, many more), control over shadows and the mind of a genius

      • True, we still don’t want to underestimate Teridax. He could give many a great fight and curbstomp many others. He’s got a lot of great abilities in his arsenal.

17. actually the Man of Protoplasmic Energy, but you know, towmato tomahto.

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    • I remember that food store! Good times Well that’s a good name

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18. what food store?
    btw i honestly think that Prime (Gold Superman *ka-lil one million*)
    would be better then SSJ4 Goku
    because at the point he entere hibernation, he focused his body on gaining power.
    so every day it would square, then cube, then 4th power, then 5th, for 68,000 years.
    so, its like this. each unit = superman’s power.
    1, 2, 8,4096, +256000000000000,
    and thats as much as my calculator will store! that is in 5 days.
    256000000000000^6=a
    a^7=b
    b^8=c
    are you getting the picture?
    how many supermans do you think could take Goku SSJ4 on?

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    • This one

      http://www.tomaydo.com/

      Glad you made that reference! Now this store will be remembered!!

      You think he could beat Goku I dunno. Goku’s beaten him before.

      No amount of Supermans could beat Goku. 1…..Million of them couldn’t!

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19. lol he is much, much stronger then 1 millionx regular superman.
    okay.. if i did the math correctly, i shouldnt have to write down any zeros, but numbers will be long.
    and im sure i did the math correctly
    it would take him less than 9 months to reach this number:
    999,999,999,999,000x100x1000x10000x100000x1000000= A
    A followed by 100 googleplex 0′s

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    • Even then. I’m not sure a million of those could beat Goku One Kamehameha could wipe them out if he keeps it firing continuously

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20. lol! okay. tell me. if average, what would be Goku’s power level?
    (answer this question)
    1 followed by ____ zeros.

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    • I could’ve sworn we did this already >_>

      Well base Goku would be about 10000000000….00000000…0000000000000000……….000000000000000000000…….00000

      And then add a couple hundred more. It’s so crazily big, but that’s probably it. Like Gemini Saga he pretty much has no limit

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21. lol wait if you admit gemini has no limit, and you compare goku to gemini, that means hes much stronger then frieza!
    btw i asked how many zeros
    like if it was 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
    ,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
    it would be 126 zeros. and that power level right there is much higher then 1 billionx 1 billion x 1 billion x 1 billion x 1 billion x 1 trillion x 1 trillion x 1 suptilian. which is greater then Buu

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    • Figure of speech I don’t actually think Gemini has no limit and is Goku level. Just an epic example. I think Frieza would win

      Oh, maybe add a billion of zeroes and do that a billion times. After that multiply it by a billion….A billion times XD

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22. even so, (that surpassing Omega shenron by plactillions)
    a highly advanced calculator shows that Superman will become tritillions times stronger then a billion^1,000,000,000
    in 120 years.
    you do know that he would still have 27,880 years to expand right?

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    • Thing is…Superman doesn’t have 120 years The fight is instant. Goku also gets stronger each year though so Superman could never catch up

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23. lol no you are seeing this completely wrong. he ALREADY spent 68,000 years inside the sun so he has the power already. we just need to calculate it.
    since Goku has a power level of
    100^1000^10000^100000^1000000
    *which is about a billion more zeros then you ever named he was*
    Superman would surpass that in easily 400 years.
    and then he would be more than 100^1000^10000^100000^1000000^1000000000*1000000000*1000000000*100000000 the next day.
    so he would over shadow Goku’s rate of power increase in THE VERY MAXIMUM 12,000 years. after that, there is no way of beating him. i would even say superman beats Gemini Saga..

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    • But that’s the point he doesn’t have 400 or 12K years

      Superman beating Gemini Saga? Welllllll…….heh heh

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24. lol you arent getting this dude.
    HE ALREADY HAS THE POWER.
    im saying in the 12,000 years that he did spend in the sun, he overpowered goku.
    and in the other 56,000 years was to make sure he stayed that way.
    think of it this way.
    for every power point Goku has, there are a google supermans.
    so, lets say Goku has a power level representing 100.
    he would be 100 google, which would be 100, followed by 100 zeros

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    • I don’t think he surpassed him. Maybe Base form, but not Super Saiyan!! I think Goku could beat… 100 of those

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25. no way man
    the best goku can increase is 20x in a day. thats 10x better then he has ever shown us he can improve, even in the time chamber.
    Superman increased at least 100,000,000,000,000x a day, and then 100,000,000,000 more then that the next day.
    he surpassed him in 1,000 years easy. he overwhelmed any super sayain form in 12,000 years, and he overwhelmed SSJ4 Vegeto in 30,000 years.
    so in that extra 38,000 years he was in there, was just a backup plan he is much stronger then Goku.

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    • Goku can use the Kaio Ken which he can use to get infinitely higher Well, high enough anyway. SSJ4 Gogeta with Kaioken would be a boss Superman can’t possibly catch him. Also Superman doesn’t get that much stronger each day

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26. yes he does
    day 1:1+1=2
    Day 2:2^3=8
    Day 3:8^4=4096
    day 4:4096^5=137438953472000
    shall i go on? he still has 24819996 days that he spent in the sun.
    here you do the math.
    a^ (x+1)=b
    b^(x+1)=c
    and so on and so forth
    having the left number equal to his power level before the day is over and the end number being the end of the day power level. and the equation in parenthases is always gaining 1 number.

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    • Ermmm, Superman’s powers don’t work that way……Goku’s might though

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27. nope his hibernation causes his power level to grow at an exponential rate, including an equation very like mine.
    even Goku’s kio Kenx1 billion wouldnt work.
    100
    100,000,000,000,000
    all it does is add 12 zeros to the power limit. and it doesnt last forever. superman gets more power from the sun then Goku can get.
    and you are probably wondering why Superman Prime is stronger, when hes absorbing the suns rays, and goku is much stronger hten the sun correct?
    black energy particles are very infinite. These, along with yellow sun energy, mass produce to form a single kind of energy that, when in hibernation, Superman may absorb.

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    • Okay then…how about a link for Proof? Gold Superman only appeared for about a comic so none of that was really stated. For all we know he’s barely stronger than Superman Prime. Goku could take him with the Kamehameha

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      • As an astrophysics student I’m skeptical of these maths (lol)

      • Heh, in math I’m not even up to the whole 1^3 stuff yet. I don’t use ^ though I can’t wait til I learn those because it seems a lot of people are using them nowadays

28. Basically they mean you multiply one by the number before the ^ as many times as the number after it. So 10^3 is 1000, and 10^3^3 is 1000000000

    Hope that helps

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    • Okay, that makes sense. So instead of saying 10 cubed you’d say 10^3. Thanks for the tip

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29. yeah i thought you knew that sorry.
    ill try to find the link, but in the meantime,
    try to think of how incalculable that number is.
    if the exponential rate of growth is 1, 2, 8, 4,096, +256,000,000,000,000, in the first 4 days, could you imagine what it would be in the 24,820,000 days?

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    • Trust me, you won’t find that link. Superman’s powers just don’t work that way. He’s good, but he’s not quite at that level. Still, if he were that would be a cool power up for him

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30. im sure i saw that somewhere. anyways, if you could possibly imagine that immense number, lets name it CC (Cant calculate)
    lets say superman’s power level is 2,000
    2,000 x CC
    wouldnt that be much higher than Goku’s power level?

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    • That’s a high number, but I wouldn’t say higher than Goku’s. Even if it’as higher than Super Saiyan, he has Super Saiyan 3 Still, it would be pretty impressive for Superman!

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31. okay, remember that link you sent me a while ago and you said *this one seems more correct*
    well the guy who listed that said his power level was, basically
    17×10^1000
    even then, that was Goku SSJ4
    now lets say Vegeto SSJ4 is a billion times stronger
    17×10^1009
    that would be his power level.
    if a being followed those calculations, he would surpass that number in the first 3 years easy.

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    • But Remember, that was just more correct They’d probably still be leagues ahead of Superman. He’s limited by his Kryptonian powers

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32. thats kinda… wrong.
    in his golden form he doesnt have a weakness. look it up on wiki.
    still, he did the math and everything. he showed what his power level would be and its not anything close to what the equation shows.

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    • Still, we haven’t gotten a link for Superman’s abilities. Trust me, he’s not quite as powerful as you think. Goku could beat him via speedblitz I think that Superman is still tough though

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33. goku never fought superman.
    and ive been looking at my history trying to find it.
    anyways, tell me, if you could just guess at Goku’s top power level, including kai oh ken.
    how many zeros would it have?

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    • They fought on the blog

      It would be a lot of zeros. I’m not even sure if we could begin to comprehend the number!

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34. how about, over 9,000?
    lol.
    maybe more than 9,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000^1,000,000^100,000,000*100,000,000 zeros?
    its still equals zero total even with infinite zeros xD jk.
    anyways that number is higher than any number you said about him, i said about him, or anyone else has said about him.
    btw since you think Gemini would lose against frieza, then your blog battles dont really count. unless they fought in real comic strips or something.
    there is a youtube vid. where goku beats superman, then superman beats goku. maybe theres a tie video. i dunno but it all depends on the forms.

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    • Infinite Zeros are cool =DDD

      I think Gemini would lose to Frieza, but how does that make them not count? They’re all bound by my 100% accuracy policy. Plus I have started making some fanfics for the fights

      I made a vid where Goku beat Superman so we can count that one as canon

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35. alright let me get this straight. how does Frieza beat Gemini? Gemini can unleash billions of punches per second, so hand to hand is not an option,
    and remember? dimension buster at least?
    he can open dimensions easily, no matter the size.
    so shooting off ki is not an option.
    in naruto’s words, the only way to beat Gemini if your frieza, would be *to stare him down*
    which i highly doubt Gemini can die that easy. even if he does he gains the 8th sense, and comes back to life, and Gemini is way over FTL
    he can regenerate instantly? remember?

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    • Frieza can match/exceed Gemini Saga’s speed. Saga is extremely fast, but I don’t think he can take on Frieza. Can he open the dimension before Frieza hits him with a Death Laser is the question? The regeneration helps, but to be honest, I don’t see how he can take Frieza on. Remember, Frieza also has Majin Form and his Death Slicers

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36. if you want, after church today ill create one of those matches. kinda like the one i did for bass vs all of media. and hten you put yours. and we shall see who’s is better by whoever comments my name or your name.
    Uniforce vs Dreager1
    kinda sounds epic.

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    • You did a Bass vs Media match? Where? When? I think you lost me :/

      That sounds good, but could you remind me of when that happened?

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37. wait, did you delete it? i am pretty sure i did a bass vs media match.
    remember when you told me (after i showed it to you) that i should try to start a blog? and how you loved that bass pwned?
    well im dakota walton lol i changed my username. but now im trying to find it and i cant. hold on ima keep looking

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    • You mean the story you wrote? That’s still there, but it’s a comment, not a post. So how would you see which has more comments?

      Yeah, I knew you were Dakota, as Admin I’m notified of these things

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38. Gemini Saga Vs Frieza Tournament Match
    *Gemini arrives on Frieza’s planet*
    Frieza: oh? you dare challenge me?
    Gemini Saga: . . .
    Frieza: *growls* I’ll Destroy you, you little pest!!!
    *Frieza powers up all the way to 60,000,000 and blasts towards Gemini*
    Frieza: take this!!
    *Frieza unleashes a powerful haymaker, but Gemini lifts his hand up and block it with no effort*
    *Frieza looks in awe* what?!?
    *Gemini brings his other hand up and touches frieza, sending him far back*
    Frieza: thats it!! you asked for it!! *frieza starts unleashing punches at Gemini, at supersonic speeds, but each one, easily blocked by Gemini’s reflexes and strengh*
    Gemini: you weak twig.
    *Frieza somehow gathers his power level up to 120,000,000,000*
    lets see how you handle my true power!!!
    *Frieza charges up one powerful blast and blasts it at Gemini, hitting him directly*
    Frieza: ha! i knew you were too weak to fight me!
    *the blast disappears and Gemini is standing there, unharmed*
    Frieza: what?!?! i put everything into that blast!!
    *Gemini smiles and points his finger above frieza*
    Frieza looks up* huh?
    *a dimension, containing frieza’s blast opens and it fires at Frieza, hitting him directly*
    *somehow he survives, still with a power level of 70,000,000,000*
    *frieza unleashed blasts at his highest rate of fire, to have no effect*
    (((now you pick the ending!!!)))
    A. Gemini paralyzes Frieza and he is now dead
    B. Gemini ends it with one punch
    C. Gemini Preforms a big bang attack and destroys the universe
    D. Gemini traps Frieza in a dimension and he dies of old age
    E. Gemini splits Frieza in half with a dimension
    F. Gemini gathers the universes power and blasts it at frieza
    G. Frieza disables Gemini’s powers to regenerate and to burn his cosmos, then he trains for 8,000 years and comes back to beat Gemini and slowly does so.
    i dont really think G was an option, but i mean i had to make an option to where Frieza (kinda) wins right?

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    • I guess I’ll go with G. I always thought Frieza would win btw. I think the fight would go a little differently though

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39. lol post your way
    G? first off, he cant disable his powers, he doesnt have the ability to do that.
    and 7th sense prevents his abilities to be blocked or destroyed.
    btw if you picked G this is what would ahve happened.
    G: Gemini gains the 8th sense, comes back to the planet and destroys Frieza with an almighty big bang.
    i even gave him an advantage by raising his power level into the BILLIONS!! that still couldnt stop Gemini.

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    • Hey, G was an option. Frieza won Okay, here’s the deal

      Saga: Eat this Frieza! *throws an energy ball* *Frieza slaps it away* My Gosh!
      Frieza: Enough games! *teleports to Saga and unleashes some terrifying hand to hand attacks*
      Saga: You haven’t seen the last of me!
      Frieza: I have *Blasts him with the Death Beam…..DEATH BEAM. Basically Gemini Saga dies.

      3 possible endings

      A. Frieza just walks away
      B. Frieza melts his body with a giant energy blast
      C. Saga gets up, but then gets knocked back down by Frieza

      Of course it wouldn’t be quite that short, but I may turn it into a fanfic someday and couldn’t write tooooo much

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40. hahahahahahahaha!!!!
    you are so funny!!!
    you forget Gemini’s basic 300 mil x FTL bro
    dodges his power easy. and no way frieza can block infinite power. he is a low level DBZ.
    remember, gGemini goes FTL as an infant.
    Frieza has no proof of ever going faster than light.
    my version was way better. Gemini wins. end of discussion,

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    • You forgot about Frieza’s massive hand to hand knowledge. Gemini can’t take him in close quarters combat. Plus Frieza can spam his Death Beams which are extremely fast and deadly. Your version was cool I’ll admit

      But Frieza pwns

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41. oh really?
    billions of hits? im not sure hes in that league yet.
    remember thats without burning cosmos if he wanted to he could blast trillions of hits.
    oh and spamming wont work remember? you left out the dimension controlling ability. Gemini would never blast a blast directly at an opponent, he would open a dimension and shoot it thru, then open it when the time is right.
    death beams arent an option, his armor makes sure of this
    here, the only being strong enough to take Gemini Saga down would be one that could defy physics and remove his 7th sense. after that its easy pickings

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    • I think he could do enough hits to take on Gemini Saga. He’s got speed and cunning

      Well, the Deathbeams are fast and could hit him before he used the dimension ability. Or use his Death Slicers and make them go around the portals. He can dodge the portals that Gemini uses. The beam would still work if he aims for the head

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42. head gets sliced clean off, then he regenerate it instnantly.
    and no, dimension powers for Gemini are instant. much faster then frieza can ever imagine.

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    • Faster than Frieza can imagine? That would definitely be some epic speed!

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43. well frieza has never shown to be FTL, and Gemini is 300 mil times FTL.
    and his instant regeneration helps him heal from any attack (if that ability is still able to work for him)
    remember, as long as there is life in the universe, Gemini Saga will return. he comes back from Cosmos (technically EVERYTHING in the Seint Seiga series does, just not everything has the ability to come back)
    so as long as it has energy, cosmos, or a power level, He will return from nothing which in turn frieza was chopped into tiny bits by Trunks (not saying he’s weak AT ALL) With a sword. so his defense isnt that strong, not like Goku who can block a sword swipe with one finger!

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    • Still, if a Death Beam hits him then he’ll probably die even with his regen. I just don’t think he could recover from the trauma

      Well, Trunks could do the same to many fighters including Gemini Saga so that part doesn’t really change his defense. Frieza’s a Boss!

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44. lol you dont get it.
    Gemini comes back no matter what even if Gogeta SJ4 completely dissenegrated him, he would come back.
    death beam? he dodges faster energy waves easily. those dont travel too fast not faster than instantaneous.
    which is how fast he can open a dimension.
    Gemini has the massive firepower, speed, and ability advantage.
    Gemini’s last resort would be, whenever frieza looks at Gemini, he would become his puppet.
    so Frieza is fighting blind against a force 100,000,000x stronger then him (at the very least) with almost no protection at all.

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    • I dunno, not many can come back from Gogeta SSJ4′s attacks

      Death Beams are pretty much instant. Not even Goku could stop him from getting Dende.

      I think you underestimate Friexa’s ability to fight the unknown and come out on top

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45. and what power level was he? oh yeah less than 1 million -.- (at the time)
    i do understand that, at the time, it took everything Goku had to destroy him.
    bt in a movie i saw (forget the name)
    gohan kills frieza with one half/ punch.
    Frieza isnt one of the strongest beings known. not even close.
    okay? his death beams are *pretty much* instant.
    Gemini can teleport across the universe in seconds.
    Frieza may seem strong, but really, he is no real fighter against Gemini.

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    • Gohan beat him in one hit, but that was Arc 3 time. Like around Buu, of course he’s die in one shot. Still, 1 million is impressive! What’s to say that Gemini’s isn’t 30000? DBZ levels are just much stronger than most others.
      Pretty much instant is still pretty impressive. I’m not sure Gemini Saga could dodge that

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46. Gemini Saga IS instant
    and he doesnt have to dodge it if he can tank it he kinda has, oh i dunno, invincible armor
    whats to say Gemini isnt 30,000? oh.. i dunno.. just
    he slices down galaxies with a wave of his hand.
    he travels the universe, thru dimensions too at will, and at incalculable speeds.
    he has the ability to come back from the dead
    he can read the opponents minds
    he has amazing phychic abilities.
    he has the ability to increase his power at will, anytime we wanted to, and increase it enough to overwhelm his opponent.
    he has Infinite cosmos. he can grow infinite power

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    • He’s fast, but I’m not sure I’d say instant.

      I’m not sure if the armor can block the laser. The Death Beam is extremely powerful!

      Burter can do all of that (mostly) and he’s only at around 30K. See Gemini Saga may be more that level. He’s still ultimately powerful, but no match for Frieza

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47. xD nah. no way.
    Gemini is instant. he teleports kinda like instant transmission for his universe.
    remember he can increase his power to the power of a big bang! and thats not all. thats only x3. he can get up to xtrillions.
    one of Vegeta’s main attacks is the big bang and that would destroy friexa easily.

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    • Big Bang Attack would destroy Frieza, but Vegeta’s attack could also one shot Gemini Saga o-O Just Saiyan is all XD Saga is still really tough though

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48. okay cool but this isnt Gemini vs Vegeta this is frieza vs Gemini.
    Gemini has Vegeta’s powers easily.
    Vegeto’s power level is almost infinite correct?
    gemini’s is infinite.

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    • Gemini is not even close to Vegeta’s power. Vegito’s power may as well be infinite because pretty much no character in media can match it. Gemini’s tough, but I’d still say he’s only at around Frieza level

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49. and you cant accept the fact that Gemini is infinite.
    so is Vegeto.
    Gemini is able to raise his power infinitely because of his Pope rank.
    now tell me
    can frieza beat an infinite power?

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    • Frieza can beat infinite power. Because power without a host can’t win Gemini is tough, but nobody’s infinite…except Bass XD

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50. Gemini is the host -.-
    you know what? there is no way im ever going to convince you that Gemini Saga is much stronger than you’re giving him credit for, am i?

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    • Well……feats and showings of his power would help, but once I read the manga then we’ll all know for sure =)

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51. alright well.. just let me list some things he has done and when u read the manga, we shall resolve this little issue with Frieza, cell, and even Omega Shenron.
    He traveled light speed as an infant
    he killed the strongest Golden Saint, at full power, with one Galactian explosion.
    His Golden Armor is impenetrable, and therefore with the 7th sense is *another Gemini*
    He came back from Hell to assist Athena
    HE BROUGHT ATHENA BACK TO LIFE after she had killed herself (yes im just as supprised as you when i found out)
    he can posses any living being with nothing more than eye contact, and even just feeling the presence of the enermy
    he can hit billions of times per second. master at hand to hand combat.
    BTW CHANGE OF SUBJECT
    i got the Plasmaman sketch drawn out, except for his hands and feet. ill quickly make a youtube video and you tell me what needs to be improved.

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    • Sounds like he’s tough

      Cool, I’ll be awaiting the video

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52. well yeah. he’s one of the only beings that can destroy galaxies with a single wave of a hand
    remember? i think broly did something similar to that. destroyed the southern galaxy? with one blast? oh yeah i remember that.
    but Gemini easily swipes down galaxies with a flick of the wrist so, how is he NOT broly level?
    btw the dark shaded parts of Plasmaman represents Custom color: 1
    and the blank spots on him represent Custom color: 2
    after watching the video send me a youtube message reccomending some colors or changes.

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    • Broly may still have the massive speed advantage and stuff. Gemini’s tough but…..(insert reused sayings)

      Sure, okay

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53. tough but what? he does swipe down galaxies.
    look it up. broly does the same thing with energy.
    Broly has the massive speed advantage? sure. lets just say he does.
    even so, whats that gonna be able to do to Gemini? Invincible armor, teleportation, dimension busting/opening leaves any ki blasts out. maybe hand to hand if Gemini wasnt trying.

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    • Well, he’s tough, but Galaxy busting isn’t what it used to be. Well, fine, it kind of is still cool, but would it be enough? Broly can blast through it to take him out. Hand to hand is one of Broly’s advantages and helps him take the match

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54. Broly has the massive speed and hand to hand advantage ill give him that.
    but Gemini is just so.. raw power.
    Broly blasts a huge blast at gemini, it goes thru the dimension trick and hits him.
    gemini takes major damage, but then heals, and powers up.
    this continues until broly cant power up anymore. or Gemini just powers up all the way. which shook the entire SS universe.
    Gemini can take hits huge hits. unmeasurable hits. even tho the dimension thing will never fail i still put it into calculations.

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    • It would definitely be an epic battle!!

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55. yep
    what if there was a DBZ character that, wasnt very powerful, but his speed out calculated SSJ4 Vegeto’s anyday? like a supreme intelectual cosmic being? that would be sweet.

    hmm.. ima list some stats
    Broly:
    Power: 800
    Speed: 1000
    Hand to hand: 800
    intelligence: 50.
    other abilities: 0
    Gemini:
    Power: 700
    Speed: 700
    Hand to hand: 700
    intelligence: 1000
    other abilities: 1000
    almost as accurate as i would put it. but then again Gemini could always burn his cosmos to increase his stats.
    lets say this is Geminis limit (when he truly has none) which one would win according to the stats?
    and if u disagree with the stats feel free to post your own.

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    • I guess I’d go with Broly based on those stats

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56. alright let me add one more.
    Broly:
    defense: 300
    gemini: defense: 1000
    so do you agree with the stats i have listed?

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    • Okay, but then Gemini’s Other Abilities gets lowered to 300

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57. how about 400?
    and if you count the numbers, Gemini is much higher in alll the stats combined.
    knowing this do you still agree with them?

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    • I still go with Broly because he has the most important stats. Power, Speed, and Hand To Hand are mainly what decides a fight

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58. yeah but if it takes all of your power to hurt the enemy your in bad luck
    still, if you do agree with those comparisons then that means Gemini is much stronger then frieza, cause broly is way out of friezas league

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    • Well, I wouldn’t say that he’s way out of Frieza’s league, but he’s a strong fighter. Broly speedblitzes. Well, the comparisons were hypothetical

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59. lol..
    does broly destroy galaxies easily? yes
    does gemini? yes
    does frieza? no.
    its like goku and vegeta, then krillen.

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    • Frieza…I dunno. He just may surprise you

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60. lol
    Gemini vs Satan (seint seiga series)
    Satan is the only other being that has infinite cosmos

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    • I couldn’t find him. Can you send a link?

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61. sure thing im on that right now.

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    • Great

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62. btw just found out Gemini can stop his enemies heart, and thinking. i think thats a draumatic increase in power.
    here check this site out. im still looking for it.
    http://saintseiya.wikia.com/

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    • Yeah, that’s where I’ve been going to check out their powers and stuff

      Yeah, Gemini is a being to be feared!

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63. No

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    • Yes

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      • I dont see the point in arguing, Bass is the most supreme being in all of media

      • True, Bass is the strongest being in all of media!

64. How much Gurren Lagann have you seen?

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    • None sadly I’ve heard that it’s a pretty great show though and the robots are incredibly powerful!

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      • I won’t spoil anything, as it’s one of the most epic anime ever (and the only one in which the scale dwarfs even Dragon Ball), but I reckon by the end Team Dai-Gurren could defeat even Bass, let alone with the rest of the media’s help. Watch the series and see if you agree by the end. I’m willing to wait for the Simon fights until after you’ve watched it

      • Well, long story short I may not be watching the series for a long time if at all depending on the content, but I’m still glad about the no spoilers part, but don’t worry, I’ll be okay. I already know most of their abilities via other debating sites and the robots are extremely powerful. I know that the really big ones can shatter whole planets/solar systems just by moving which is pretty impressive. Beating Bass however?….I’ve debated that battle over on another site and I think Bass still takes this one. He still has his massive speed advantage and I don’t think the robot could tank his stronger moves. I still think Bass is the strongest being in all of media

65. Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann can shoot time-travelling, probability-altering missiles out of the sky by hitting every point in time simultaneously, and it’s not the most powerful version of Gurren Lagann…

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    • I think Bass’s barrier will be able to tank it, plus since it’s a projectile his reflectance will be able to reflect them back at him. Plus his speed might let him dodge the rest

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66. Speed counts for naught in dodging that attack as it hits every point in time at once, including before Bass moved

    And consider this for a second: Spiral Energy can be used by anything with a double helix genetic code (in other words, all humans and advanced life forms we know of). Other than that, it seems to come from sheer determination. And there were plenty of spare Lagann-like vehicles floating in space from the war… Give one each to Naruto, Sasuke, Kakashi, Lee, Guy, Killer Bee, Jiraiya, Ichigo, Kazuki, and every other particularly determined character from all forms of media, and the amount of Spiral energy that could be achieved would be above comprehension. With just what was left of Team Dai-Gurren, they created a mecha the size of a galaxy….

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    • The attack would be everywhere, but the ones that should be where Bass are blow up because of his barrier. The ones in front and behind him are reflected. As for the others, they hit time and stuff, but he’ll be okay.

      As for the spiral part. If they could make it to the robots that could be dicey, but Bass could probably destroy them before they made it. Even if they did make it however, they wouldn’t be able to master the controls right away. If they spam the attack they may take each other out of the fight by mistake

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67. I dunno about the controls problem. Everyone in Gurreen Lagann piloting a gunmen for the first time has been able to pilot them fine straight from the get-go.

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    • Yeah, but that’s how the main character of Angelic Layers happens to be awesome at fighting, or how the main character of Sugar Princess is awesome at skating. The main characters are usually great at what they do because they’re hardcore. Naruto’s never really used any form of technology before so he may not understand the controls

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68. Neither had Simon before he found Lagann. He lived in a relatively primitive underground village with virtually zero technology.

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    • Yes, but we’ve also got to account for the fact that he’s the main character of the show. That tends to help a lot with those things. Also when they show the inside, how does it look? Like the Eureka Seven controls usually look pretty hard

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69. All the gunmen used by humans in Gurren Lagann are stolen from the Beastmen, so the same probably applys to all of them. Control-wise, basically there’s just two joystick-like things and a Spiral Meter on Lagann

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    • Oh, that sounds simple enough, but how strong are the joysticks? Because some guys like Yusuke or Naruto may push too hard and it snaps or something. Of course the robots are so big that they couldn’t even move without hitting each other

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      • Gurren Lagann has been shown to self-repair from a burst of Spiral energy. Even if they broke the controls, they’d repair and they could have another go, learning this time that they don’t need to use so much force. Although I don’t think that would be necessary. Yusuke would know how much force a joystick needs, (after all, he was one of the ones who had played the game that Gamemaster stuck them in back when it was an arcade game). Naruto, maybe. Lagann itself and the other Lagann-like units floating in space are tiny by mecha standards, it’s only when they fuse with larger things that they become quite so massive. Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann seems to be summoned from sheer Spiral Energy, but it needed something as big as Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann to pilot the head cockpit. So they wouldn’t be so huge until they fuse together. And once they’re fused, there’s nothing to crash into.

      • So, at first they’re small? I’m guessing Transformer size (Animated versions) or more like Live Action size? Then it’s probably back to Bass’s speedblitz, but they won’t want Bass to get near them. If he’s able to incorporate the tech and Spiral energy into him then things may get even more dire for the heroes.

        Yeah, those guys definitely sound like some of the stronger beings out there.

70. Not really. Think smaller. Gurren Lagann could be said to be transformer-size. Lagann is its head.

    Bass can’t use Spiral Energy. He doesn’t have a double helix genetic code. It is possible that he could use his speed to try to intercept them and destroy them before they fuse, but what if all the non-spiral beings (all the daemons, gods, homunculi, undead, Makuta, Digimon and anything else that can’t use Spiral Power) were to hold him back?

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    • Yeah, that is pretty small. I guess around Headmaster size then. So, one big Hyper Earthbreaker from Bass should pretty much destroy them at once.

      Well, I think with Bass’s Get Ability he could get the code. I mean, his Ultimate Program rewrites itself to stop viruses and everything so he’s pretty good at that sort of thing. Of course he can also give the robots bugs by touching them. If the bugs mess with the code then they may not be able to use spiral energy.

      The others could hold him back if he lets them. Like, if he doesn’t feel like he has to take the Laganns down quick then he’ll stay and fight. Of course if he knows they’re a threat he could just blast through them all at incredible speeds while beam spamming. Not to mention that he goes so fast he’s virtually teleporting.

      Of course now with the whole bugs thing he could maybe take them down regardless

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