Melkor vs Link


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Melkor is a powerful being to be sure, but he doesn’t have the guts and determination that Link possesses. Link has saved the world many times over the years and he’s typically had to do it on his own. As such, Link has gained a lot of battle experience against a variety of foes and his light arrows will certainly be fatal against Melkor. I don’t see how Melkor can hope to keep Link down for the count with his lack of good speed feats. He will have a tough time trying to land a hit! Link wins.

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      • The image still is of Sauron I believe.

        Doesn’t make much of a difference, as they both seem primarily up-close fighters, and both were hurt by humans and/or elves.

      • Well this is Melkor at his most powerful since all fighters here are at their most powerful. He at his most powerful could literally scale continents in seconds to minutes (making him faster than Link) and starbust with attacks. He doesn’t even have to hit Link directly and Link still gets annihilated due to planetary explosion

        Morgoth on the other hand would struggle.

      • Soz for double post since your site does not have editing features. Melkor has fought for centuries to milleniums, giving him more battle experience than Link since Melkor actually fought GODS who could easily continent bust and sink continents with attacks and control oceans, forests, the land and the skies. That was the calibre of the gods Melkor fought. Link gets destroyed so hard. I doubt Link has crossed a continent in a single leap like the god Tulkas did and Melkor is the same species as Tulkas

    • Melkor is a casual continent-buster and does not require a physical body, and is fully capable of interacting with the world without one. In other words, Link as no chance.

  1. Random,

    Well, how was Melkor/Morgoth defeated then?

    If Link has access to all those fancy magical objects in the Zelda world, then I’m sure there is something that can defeat him.

    • He was defeated by the combined might of the Valar (aka gods who helped to create the universe of LOTR) and even then his essence could not be destroyed by the Valar so they cast him into a void that transcended beyond time and space.Link’s magical objects won’t help him if Melkor obliterates the planet.

      • I’d like to see him try to blow up the planet! Link’s Light Arrow would have already pierced him and it would be game over for the being.

      • He will blow it up with a thought since pre-song Melkor aka. strongest version was beyond time and space and aided in creating the world. Boom earth with a thought ‘Blow up’ and GG Link. Even Master Chief could annihilate Link given his tech and heroics.

      • Nothing is completely beyond space and time though. Also, keep in mind that Link has the Racoon Tail from Smash Bros so he can glide through space for a little while even if the Earth is blown up. A good light arrow would still finish the job. As for Master Chief’s heroics vs Link’s….I think you need to play Majora’s Mask again!

      • Melkor is beyond time and space. Why do you think time control does not affect him? He owns Link.

      • Being beyond time and space sounds good, but you’re still susceptible to attacks. He can’t just hide in another dimension for the whole fight. Link should be fine thanks to his Deity Form.

      • Link’s too heroic for that. Transmutation is similar to vaporizing someone from existence with a thought, I believe that it can be stopped with force of will.

      • LOL! Tell that to the entire continent of the powerful, strong-willed Numenoreans who basically suffered that from Eru himself. Link’s not surviving aything.

      • Eh, I’m calling plot hax on that. Sometimes, you just have to disagree with the actual story since things happen that don’t make a lot of sense. It’s what I do whenever I read a Spiderman comic by Dan Slott!

      • Having a strong will can’t help you unless you can transmutate your own body yourself. Link loses and becomes a teapot. GG Link

      • Nah, strong will surpasses all of that. Ever wonder why Link is regarded as such a legendary hero with limitless strength, determination, and resolve?

      • Its all hyperbole and false praise. Melkor surpasses any enemy Link has faced and is beyond Link’s ability to defeat. Your the only person who thinks Link can beat Melkor. He can tear Link apart with his mind.

      • I probably am one of the only people who thinks Link wins this round. Still, if you think Melkor will be tearing apart the mind of someone who holds a third of the triforce, you need to replay the Ocarina of Time game!

      • I meant tear his body apart with his mind. So what if Link has the Triforce? Primordial ancient evil, the root of all evil>>>>>>>Triforce. You say Link is a hero? Oh please. Morgoth has the title of Satan, The Great Enemy. While Link fights weak sorcerers and stupid giant monsters, Morgoth clashes with gods that are capable of shattering planets if they didn’t hold back since they did not want to destroy the planet. The gods could not even destroy Morgoth’s essence and they had to cast him in a dimension BEYOND time and space.

      • No evil>>>>Triforce. It’s simply not done. The Triforce is virtually unstoppable. Heroes always pwn Satan so that’s why it’s Link’s destiny to win this round. I always found it a little hard to buy the Beyond Space and Time argument since nothing should really be past that. Still, it’s impressive that they couldn’t destroy Morgoth, but they didn’t have the Light Arrows. That should give Link the edge am I right?

      • Divine gods/Valar of justice >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Light arrows. The Valar are the embodiment of good and creation and are loyal to Eru the Creator. Thats more good than some stupid light arrows and the triforce. Morgoth destroys Link. The end.

      • We’re gonna need some proof of that. The Light Arrows have been proven to disintegrate enemies. I’ve never seen the Valar match such a downright impressive feat. Melkor and Morgoth would simply be outmatched against good ole fashioned Link.

      • Wrath of the Valar- One attack sank a continent >>>>>>>>Stupid light arrows. Melkor destroys Link the same way.

      • I prefer to think of them as noble Light Arrows. Melkor sounds like a tough guy, but I think you’re underestimating Link’s speed and confidence.

  2. I have to say that Link dies instantly. Melkor could snap the bow of light easily as well as the master sword so Link cant even attack Melkor. The dark enemy could easily erase Link out of existence. Melkor by himself could destroy all of Hyrule in a matter of millaseconds. Melkor wanted to rule Middle-Earth so he did not destroy it but he could have. Link blinks and then he dies. GG Link. Even Aragorn could destroy Link due to Aragorns greater sword fighting skills and better sword, Anduril.

    • Melkor is effectively pure darkness though so I’m not sure about him even being able to get close to the Master Sword or Light Arrows without withering away. Link’s raw power and speed are also completely out of this world thanks to the Hyrule Warrior games where his stats are through the roof

  3. Well Melkor is a god of middle-earth and link is a mortal so I fail to see any scenario where link comes out on top. Link can slash his sword left and right, spin and block. Even in Hyrule Warriors he is really predictable. He can shoot a bow but nowhere as accurate as Legolas. Link is essencially a budget Aragorn and not even Aragorn could defeat a Mair, beings way weaker than the weakest valar. This is proven. Going back to the conversations above Melkor IS beyond space and time if he wants to. If he WANTS to be physical he CAN be physical. I get it, sometimes that stuff is hard to buy. But lets look at this: Melkor, a god. Link, a mortal. Me, a human. The god I belive in, a god. Could I touch the god I belive in? No. So it would be the same for Link and Melkor. Link would not even know where to shoot. I know the previous conversation was made before Breath of the Wild was realesed but the light arrows cant one shot Dark Beast Ganon so why would they one shot Melkor? Melkor is the most powerfull being in Tolkiens works save Eru Illuvitar. Dark Beast ganon would probably fall at Demises knees. I dont know how enemys in zelda work but I know Link cant beat melkor.

    • Melkor is powerful but as pure darkness he would have a hard time taking Link on. He would need to dawn a physical form to try and beat the legendary hero and as soon as he does Link would strike him down. If he stays abstract then the purity of Link’s light arrows would finish him off. So either way Melkor’s best strategy would be to try and approach Link but he doesn’t have the same level of physical battle experience which would really hurt him in the end

  4. Also, how do you think Link would hold up against Grond, Hammer of the underworld? If you dont want to belive Melkor can just think and Link would blow up fine. But Grond does not even have to hit link and it would make a massive crater and sprout electricity all over the place. Lightning from Grond would kill Link instantly if he dodges the attack. Grond, is MASSIVE so I dont think Link would have time to dodge.

    • Link is excellent at dodging though and even has some slight time manipulation. His destructive power is also at a crazy high level so I don’t think it’s beyond the pale for him to just be able to overpower Grond. The main reason why I would take link to win that one would be the difference in speed

  5. How would Link be able to dodge? Grond is MASSIVE and Link can do what? Side step, backflip. Both dodge moves clear a couple feet while the end of Grond is like double the size of Link. Even if Link dodges, like 1 in 10 million chance he gets shocked with Gronds electricity. Fingolfin moved at the speed of lightning when he battled Melkor and still was killed. Melkor has been fighting for tens of thousands of years giving him WAY more battle experience that Link. Link is a kid gifted with special sword skills (side slash, spin, put up shield XD) that is 17 in BotW, and in OoT/MM witch is the picture he is a kid. A literal kid. Melkor is a god that fights an entire world and other gods for thousands of years giving him more battle experience and skill. Melkor has the combined strength of ALL THE VALAR, LIKE 14 GODS!!!! How long would it take Link to run a mile? Since he is “fit” we can agree on 5:30 minuets? Well that’s like one step for Melkor where as Link would struggle a bit. Melkor doesn’t have slow, big steps. He can run faster than Link with bigger steps making him faster. In Felloswship of the Ring we see Sauron come out and destroy a whole army. Melkor as claimed by many people in this thread including me is way more powerful than Sauron. Link is a kid by himself going up against the superior to the guy who took out an entire army of Second-Age Elves and Men. (Way more powerful than Third-Age)

    • Right, Melkor is more powerful than Sauron, but Sauron died to a single stab from a normal fighter. It’s not like he was going toe to toe with an incredibly powerful army or anything like that. So for Melkor he definitely has looked better but being super darkness incarnate doesn’t help his case here. As to the size advantage with Grond, Link would just have to blast through him with his Light Arrows and Master Sword slashes. Link has the big advantage here thanks to his feats from Hyrule Warriors. He has been shown to take down giant opponents as well as entire armies now. No matter how large Grond is, he’ll still just be one foe for Link to have to deal with and he is well equipped for such a fight.

      • So Dark Beast Ganon is Darkness and Malice Incarnate and Link cant one shot him so how does Link one shot Melkor? Just because Link is good in Hyrule Warriors does not mean he cant take damage. In Breath of the Wild Zelda opens up the gate to fire the light arrows otherwise Link cant do damage to Dark Beast Ganon. When fighting Melkor Link wont have no inside help. He is gone. As for Sauron being killed by a man… Isildur was in a excellent place, the PERFECT SPOT holding NARSIL. Link starting 20 or more feet away with a light bow and a flimsy sword compared to Narsil/Anduril is in a very bad spot even though the fairness is even. I dont think anyone who thinks Link can beat Melkor does not understand the power of a god who has the combined might of 14 others.

      • Right, but with composite Link already has his Light Arrows at the ready. Hyrule Warriors is the game that helps Link the most because to date it’s his most powerful incarnation. He’s able to move incredibly fast and his time manipulation can also help him get in the perfect spot to strike Melkor. Melkor’s got size but that’s his only true advantage and Link’s destructive potential will be enough for him to blow past Melkor and secure the win here. Link’s slain gods before like Ganon basically being one. At most Melkor’s size would mean that Link has to destroy him piece by piece with his attacks but it’s well within his power to do so

  6. Right, Hyrule Warriors buffed Link so much its not funny. But he still cant touch Melkor because Melkor can go beyond Links dimension and just think, just THINK and want Link to die and Link would drop dead. The triforce wont do anything for Link here. It just makes him brave. It does not allow him to go into other dimensions, one shot gods, give him bow skills to rival Legolas or sword skills to rival Aragorn. It just makes him brave. And the TRIFORCE was BROKEN by a TEENAGER PRINCESS!! Why cant a god with the fighting experience of 50 THOUSAND YEARS with the skill of 14 OTHERS break a mortal person. Melkor would not even have to be close to Link and he could kill Link. Even in Hyrule Warriors Link cant move at the speed of lightning like Fingolfin and he does not have the weapons or skill Fingolfin did and Melkor still killed Fingofin. Melkor has the simmirils(hard to spell sorry) giving him even more power. Could Melkor not just summon Ankiligon the Black or Gothmog to help him(he would not need it but just saying.)

    • At best Melkor could force a stalemate by hiding in another dimension but he wouldn’t be able to just think Link out of existence. He is protected by the Triforce, an item of infinite power. Melkor would have to eventually go to fight Link head on and that’s when Link would crush him with his superior swordsmanship and speed. Melkor firing energy blasts from afar wouldn’t help either as Link could block them all with the Master Shield which protects him from any kind of assault. He couldn’t summon extra fighters to help him like that so 1 on 1 I’d say Melkor would have too much trouble to deal with to even consider winning.

      • Link does not know what he is going up against. Iv’e seen Ganon more popularly thought as a demi-god. Im guessing Demise is like a normal god, I dont think Ganon is much weaker then Demise beause Ganon is Demise incarnate? But Melkor being way eviler than Ganon, and way more cunning and skilled Link is outmatched. I looked it up, Demi gods are mostly not god so like 4 (probably more but Ill just go with 4 right now) demi gods would make the power of one god combine that with the fact Melkor has the power of 14 others Link would have to beat FIFTY SIX, yes 56 Ganons AT ONCE!!!! LINK CAN NOT DO THAT!!!!

      • It depends on them scaling up like that though. Ganon basically defies the gods at every turn. I think he would have similar luck as Link here. Melkor is powerful to be sure but in general the LOTR is on a much lower plane of power compared to the LoZ series. So as strong as those guys might be, I don’t see them being able to take Link down for the count. Even if Melkor is worth 56 Ganons in terms of defense and power, as long as Link keeps his speed advantage he should have the win in the bag

  7. I finished all three LotR books, I am reading the simmarillion, completed the hobbit too, I have watched and annalized the movies aswell as read and watched countless stories about Middle-Earth. So I think I am well enouph educated to say that between Eru to Ungulant, the Balrogs and Gandalf, even as far as the three hunters, Sauron, Melkor, Manwe, the other vala, dragons, eagles, the Istari, Numinorians, rangers, Elrond, Galadriel, Fingolfin, the noldor elves, even Radagast and Shelob!(The hobbits have much spiritual strength) LoZ has to get on the power level of LotR. Just read a few pages of the simmarillion and you will be absolutely astounded by how strong Melkor is. Melkor and other vala can travel multi celestial range in seconds making Links “speed” look like a turtle on soul sand in minecraft. Melkor has the three simmarils aswell giving him overwhelming strength. Think of it like three triforces or like 9 triforces of power. What does Links triforce do? It makes him brave. It does not give him any extra sword combos or Legolas bow persicion. It just makes him brave vs MELKOR. I said it before but Fingolfin moved at the speed of lightning fighting Melkor and he still died. Link can not move at the speed of lightning and to what avail if Melkor just blows up the planet. Link would blow up, bye bye. Or maybe Grond hits him. uuuu that must hurt. Link is not the only one who can evade. If Melkor can move multi celestial in seconds why cant he dodge Link?

    • The book does sound interesting for the Simmarillion so I do intend to read that someday. That said, even with the books being far higher tier than the movies I wouldn’t say it gets to LoZ level. Mainly thanks to Hyrule Warriors where the characters are just out of this world. They can basically incinerate whole lands with ease. When you couple that with their sheer speed and array of weapons then that’s basically the ball game for Melkor. Melkor still wouldn’t be able to move as fast as Link and blowing up the planet would be difficult. Any attack he fires Link can just block with Light Arrows. Melkor’s speed is only multi celestial when he’s an abstract entity but in physical form he can’t move like that

      • Melkor can wipe out an entire army of noldor elves if he wants to. Link looks soooooo good in hyrule warriors because he is facing stupid pigs. Bokoblins and moblins even lizals have no chance against noldor elves. In fact one single noldor elf could probably kill Link. Melkor in the simmarillion made Lava rain from the mountains, not only from Thangorodrim but from the mountains around taking out the entire army of noldor elves. I forgot to mention above where I have to prove where LotR is higher power scale than LoZ the Nazgull? Nazgull anyone? The Nazgull would tear apart Link like they did with Theoden. Then everybody in pathetic Hyrule would start crying and Id stand there lauphing with the wich king of angmar becuase Melkor is three million times stronger than the Nazgull witch are three million times stronger than Link. And Melkor can move whatever speed he wants. This guy can still evade Link in phisical form but he can turn spiritual if he wants. Its proven that Melkor is UNKILLABLE!!!

      • Link’s facing a lot of powerful opponents too. It’s a proper blend and Link always comes out on top which shows just how skilled he is. A noldor Elf wouldn’t be able to keep up with Link’s crazy speed and power. No being is unkillable, some are just more difficult than others. Melkor sounds like he would be difficult but his whole turning spiritual thing just holds him back if anything. The instant he does that Link will be on him in an instant just slicing away. Aside from his Master Sword he’s also got his Light Arrows and even a hammer at the ready. Link always ends up overperforming in battles when it counts and that’s exactly what he would be ready to do here. It’s why he has always been considered the hero of Hyrule. Master of all arts and second to none in skill

  8. But Melkor is unkillable. Why do you think that the Valar did not kill him? Hi s essence cannot be destroyed and Tolkien makes that as clear as daylight. Hyrule Warriors Link sucks because he has a trash sword and he is verry predictable. He just swings the same exact combo every time. Link has a stupid boardwalk blow air into hammer compared to Grond.
    Aragorn>Link
    Legolas>Link
    Gimli>Link
    Gandalf>Link
    Sauron>Link
    Witch-King>Link
    MELKOR>Link
    All the people listed above has seen real war. Except Link of course. He fights about 300 enemys at a time with a whole army at his back including Divine Beasts. He needs all that help and most outcomes he dies. You just play where you left off. Aragorn for example fought 300 Uruk-hai(like 100 times stronger than moblin) with just Legolas Gimli and Borimir to help. Even BORIMIR could defeat link because Borimir can actually fight unlike a person in green underpants i know.

    • All fighters can be killed though. Melkor is just harder to destroy than most which makes him an issue to deal with but definitely not an impossible one.

      Link has the same combo each time but it’s such a powerful one that nobody can beat him. It’s part of what makes the guy such a difficult opponent. Link’s an insanely good swordsman and I’d take him over all the characters listed. Link’s seen war and in some levels beats over 2000 enemies on his own. The guy is crazy strong

      • Honestly I really am getting the vibe here that good wins every time. That is not true. Its sometimes hard to accept but its true. Melkor blows Link up. I would say Link is NOT a good swordsman. Take OoT for example. He is a kid. No battle experience VS Melkor with 50000 years experience. He is a adult, no battle experience in between he was asleep. Similar with BotW. All the kingdom can deflect a seige of 2000 soldiers but Minas Tirith was 600,000 orcs. more in the war of wrath wich is what Melkor was in. Link is so predictable that he is easy to couter. Thats why I think he is bad. (Aragorn would kick Links butt because of Aragorns superior skills and experience and the death army.)

      • I agree good doesn’t always win but in LoZ world Link ended up being the strongest so at least in his verse that is usually the case. Link really honed his skills though to the point where he is a master. Particularly in Twilight Princess this was the case as Link was kicking everyone around with ease. By the end of the game you could really tell that the guy was a genuine master. I don’t believe Melkor would be able to deal with that, especially since Melkor is used to winning easily and using high end feats rather than traditional swordplay

  9. But Melkor is a god. That is above a master correct? Link just does not have the battle experience or skill to fight Melkor. Even if Link is a master what good will it do if he gets hit by Grond 3 seconds into the fight or Melkor rains lava on him. Melkor USUALLY wins easily because he kicks everyone’s butt so hard even harder than Link. The times he does not win is when the Valar suply to the elves! He still wins 99% of the time though. Think about it. How many times did you die in Zelda games? That is how much Link failed. Plus failing Hyrule Warriors levels. Combined that is a lot of fails for composite Link. WAY more than like the two times Melkor was chained by the Valar with an army of noldor elves behind their back. Melkor has more than 50,000 years battle experience and the skill to fight 14 other powerful gods by himself. Just because someone is evil does not mean good can kill them. ESPECIALLY cant one shot them.

    • I wouldn’t say so. Masters tend to be stronger than gods. Look at Goku and Vegeta compared to Beerus or Kratos taking everyone down in God of War. I don’t die much in Hyrule games, especially Warriors where I’m basically undefeated. Melkor has experience but that won’t be enough for him to tangle with Link

      • I strongly disagree. Gods should be stronger than masters or even grandmasters such as Yoda. Gods are supposed to be the strongest beings while Masters are really strong but still mortal putting them below Gods. I dont know a lot about Goku or anything but in the serieses(idk how to spell im sorry) I study Masters are below Gods. I would argue against Link being a master but whatever. Even then Master or not what is Link gonna do against lava rivers streaming at him from all directions. Even if the lava somehow does not kill Link(Literally impossible but whatever) Tolkien clearly states that the lava Melkor creates has a poisonous fume that is just as deadly if not more deadly than the lava.

      • Yeah I mean in theory they should, but I’d say that in a lot of cases they don’t end up being the top threats. I can’t really think of any series off the top of my head where the gods ended up being the strongest. Even in LoZ Link is basically stronger than the gods as the creatures of the gods always fall before him. Ganon was basically unstoppable to them and Link still beat him so he’s just always had that knack. For the fumes, the creatures would have to stay alive long enough for them to make a difference which is the tough part

  10. Most of the time Link is aided by Zelda during the final fight (Botw, WW, TP(I think) and many more) Link might have beaten ganon but he does not have the strength of 14 gods plus an army of Noldor elves. Sorry Link ya aint gonna get that one shot here. Or even win for that matter. Link just is not ready to fight a god with 50,000 plus years of battle experience, like 30 feet tall, clad in black steel with silmarils(diluting the triforce completely) with warhammers, magic, deadly swords that could shatter the master sword or fierce deity sword.

    • Link does tend to get a lot of help but he also shows that he doesn’t really need the help either. He just uses whatever he can to have the best advantage in the fight. Melkor wouldn’t be ready to deal with a warrior as battle hardened as Link. Link just has way too many weapons at his disposal which will let him come out on top. His Light Arrows will foil all offensive attacks against him and his speed will keep him in the running

      • Your saying Link has a lot of battle experience and Im not even gonna try this time but what about Melkor? Is Melkor not battle hardened? 50,000 years of experience fighting gods id say he is even more battle hardened than link that at his best can defeat a demi god. Tolkien made Melkor unkillable. Read the silmarilion and then tell me he can die. Dont take Melkors abilities away! Link is slow compared to Melkor who can jump multi continent to multi planetary scales. Link is nowhere near Fingolfins level so why would Link be able to kill Melkor?

      • It’s different battle experience though. Melkor is used to crushing his opponents with ease and has a ton of crazy abilities as you noted so he doesn’t have to get in close and dirty. Link’s had to claim his victories through and through with pure swordplay and lightning fast reflexes. He’s won by the skin of his teeth on many occasions and it’s all only made him an even better warrior. As for Melkor being unkillable, it’s not so much as taking his ability away as that every being can be destroyed. It’s like how I don’t believe in true invincibility. You can buff yourself up to the point of being virtually invincible but you will never reach the true mark. Link’s Light Arrows would still deal fatal damage upon hitting and with Melkor’s size it would be difficult to dodge. He has size manipulation I believe so he can make himself smaller but it will still be very difficult to outmaneuver Link in a straight fight

  11. I dont know that you are the same religion as I. If not then cool just saying it could be a reason we are disagreeing here because you seem cool and stuff but in my religion there is one god and he is unkillable. Tolkien had the same religion as I so while he did base his gods off norse or greek or roman mythology, christian is the main factor so Id go to say Melkor is unkillable. Why do you think Tulkas did not kill Melkor after all 14 valar stomped on him? Because they could not. Melkor may be big but he is still insane at dodging. He is as faster than Link being able to travel insanely quickly. Even if Link hits one light arrow what good would it be? Melkor would kill Link before Link could deal a significant amount of damage. Melkor is defeatable not killable. ONLY deafetable if Link gets help from all 14 valar. Even then its a stretch. Melkor plays on a different level than Link. Link would not do bad for fighting Melkor but the dark lord would still come out on top.

    Sorry for my spelling or grammar mistakes I am really bad at that stuff.

    • No prob on the grammar stuff. I’m a Christian myself so I do believe in one all powerful God. However, in fiction I don’t apply that same standard. There all beings have limits including their interpretations of God appearing in the verse. So even at his absolute peak Melkor would have to settle for being nearly all powerful as opposed to going all the way with that. I translate immortality/being unkillable to just having high durability. Link’s light arrows are a perfect match here though because of how lethal they are to creatures of the darkness and you don’t get much darker than the embodiment of evil Melkor.

      • cool cool. Link has his feats in hyrule but in first age middle earth he is just a normal guy. Against a god he does not stand a chance. Melkors armor would stop to master sword or even the light arrows.

      • Link’s feats translate over very well though. Melkor would really be at his wit’s end trying to deal with such an opponent. His armor would have a really hard time dealing with the Master Sword and Light arrows because of how powerful the light attribute is against darkness. Melkor would be on the defensive here

  12. Sorry I took so long… I had a lot of exams and forgot about this. Friendly argument! Not rushing at eachother with lightsabers or something. About armor – Darth Vader’s armor breaks longswords upon contact. Id take Darth Vader over Aragorn or anybody in LotR but not Melkor. If Darth Vader has armor that is insanely strong then why does Melkor, a GOD not have stronger. Link has no way to damage Melkor and I could go on and on and on and on about Melkor’s ways to damage.

    • No prob, definitely no time limit on these kinds of things. For Vader, I would agree that Melkor could probably punch through his armor with a concentrated attack, but Vader’s got the Force on his side to repel those blows or even slow them down by adding a layer of resistance. Additionally, his Light Saber would be able to cut through Melkor and due to the guy’s size it would be hard to dodge. I see Link playing out in the same way. His Master Sword would cut through Melkor with each slice and those blows would quickly add up

      • Thanks for being cool about it. The Master Sword however is not as strong as a lightsaber. It cant cut through anything while a lightsaber can. (except bescar lol) I know a lot of swords that are way stronger than the master sword. (most from lotr including melkors) Look Im sorry I keep bringing this up but think about it, can Link move at the speed of light? Didn’t think so. Fingolfin did and Melkor still killed him. If you ask me, anduril could shatter the master sword eventually. Remember the master sword runs out of energy. Melkor just needs to wait if not kill him immedietly. (sorry about the will out of existance thing I had not read battle rules but I understand now)

      • I’m not sure if I’d say those swords are more powerful than the Master Sword. They may have a larger attack range but they wouldn’t be able to cut through the Master Sword. It’s effectively a sword that’s indestructible against evil and Melkor is pure evil. As for the speed, I definitely wouldn’t call Link FTL but Melkor and the others have gone down against opponents not moving very quickly. It’s more of a travel speed vs combat speed

  13. Hmm you are very smart but I dont know if you paid attention to what Tolkien said about Anduril. One example would be that Anduril cannot be broken or stained because of and enchant Elrond put on it in the reforging, It never showed in the films but books go into a lot of detail. The master sword would not be able to cut through Melkors armor because it cant even cut through a boko club? Is that what its called? I know programmers have less freedom than directors and authors but thats just a flaw about Link. I personaly find Link pretty slow, and every time I watch Amon Hen I relize that Aragorn moves at speeds untold. Melkor being a god is like 40 times that. I understand the whole travel vs combat speed and it makes perfect sense, as Melkor can travel at incredible speeds but I dont know if Links combat speed will help him when Melkor is behind him raising his hammer.

    • Yeah I’d say the club is more of a gameplay mechanic though. We’ve seen him slice through bosses with more powerful armors than that. My thing with Melkor in terms of speed is that the guy hasn’t really shown a lot. Aragorn’s got a lot more speed feats in that regard I’d say so he could probably give Link a run for his money. Link’s speed is probably at its best in the Twilight Princess manga although he also looks pretty good in the Brawl cutscenes

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