Greninja vs Galactus



Suggested by Destroyer Now this one gets pretty interesting. Galactus is massively huge and has a ton of power so you don’t want to underestimate that. That being said, he is up against Greninja who thanks to the anime has even gotten a few super forms. Galactus would not be able to keep up with Greninja’s speed at all and that will hurt him a bit. Additionally, Greninja’s attacks are powerful enough where they will hurt Galactus. It will be a battle of attrition but one where Greninja will come out on top. Greninja wins.

12 thoughts on “Greninja vs Galactus

  1. I just have to ask, how can Greninja possibly significantly hurt or speedblitz Galactus? On the damage front even when weakened by hunger, Galactus can survive the full force of two planets colliding right onto him, and no sell combined attacks from the Avengers. And normal galactus doesn’t even feel punches from the Thing, no sells Mjolnir hits, and generally just takes hits from a whole legion of heroes with pretty much zero problem. Even if we take the strongest version of Greninja, how is he supposed to compete with that? And hell that’s not even all, with his shields also preventing Thor from getting through. He doesn’t even have to take damage himself, his shields can do it for him.

    And speed wise? The guy can easily travel many, many light years with unimaginable speed. What does Greninja have that can compete with that? And with Galactus being able to super size himself to ridiculous levels? I don’t think he really needs to dodge Greninja.

    This isn’t even getting into his other abilities, with his energy attacks oneshotting people like Silver Surfer and a Celestial, manipulating matter like when he turned someone into a worm and then into energy, or his teleportation known to be able to remove people from the battlefield, essentially netting him a win instantly.

    I’m really curious as to what you believe Greninja has that can compete with that, even with the strongest version of him or a composite Greninja. Because Galactus seems to just be so immensely powerful that I don’t think Greninja can really even hurt him or even really be noticed until the end.

    • I’d say it really comes down to Greninja’s attack power. In his Ash mode he was able to take on other Mega level Pokemon. Additionally his speed was so great that it was hard to track his movements. Galactus has FTL travel speed, but in terms of combat he’s really slow. I think he would have a really hard time keeping up here and while his durability is on point, it’ll also end up failing him when it counts. Meanwhile it’s hard to see Galactus being able to strike fast enough to land any solid hits here and that’s really going to come back to bite him

      • “I’d say it really comes down to Greninja’s attack power. In his Ash mode he was able to take on other Mega level Pokemon.”

        Show me how taking on Mega Pokemon is comparable to no selling an entire legion’s worth of superheroes wailing on Galactus. And even if it is, it would take a significantly higher amount of attack power to do any significant damage. This isn’t even going into the time he casually survived being in the core of a galaxy with the vacuum of space going at him and incredibly freezing temperatures. He can even tank an the damage of being inside an exploding star, and an entire moon being smashed on him and those two planets at his weakest as I mentioned before. Do you really believe Greninja’s attacks are at all comparable to that level of damage? If so I’d like to see the evidence for that.

        “Additionally his speed was so great that it was hard to track his movements. Galactus has FTL travel speed, but in terms of combat he’s really slow. I think he would have a really hard time keeping up here”

        It being hard to track does not make it impressive Dreager. The guy has fought Thor and Silver Surfer who would definitely qualify as being fast enough to be hard to track. Thor can dodge asteroids , blocks multiple types of bullets, can move so fast he’s basically a blur, and his flight speed easily goes past FTL. Silver Surfer casually outspeeds and outmaneuvers missiles, weaves within the blasts of spaceships as they’re firing, and need I go on? Unless you can prove Greninja can both get to that level and beat it significantly to make Galactus unable to keep up, it’s not a worthwhile point.

        ” while his durability is on point, it’ll also end up failing him when it counts”

        Again you gotta prove that Greninja has significantly higher attack power than all the stuff Galactus has tanked with zero difficulty in the past. And since you haven’t done that I can’t take this point seriously.

        “Meanwhile it’s hard to see Galactus being able to strike fast enough to land any solid hits here and that’s really going to come back to bite him”

        Since you haven’t proved that Greninja can really hurt Galactus, let alone be a danger to him, him keeping up is irrelevant. It seems far more likely that Greninja will tire themselves out going all out, allowing Galactus to take over from there.

        You have yet to provide any examples of anything related to attack power, speed etc. that would show point to your argument being sound. I’ve provided multiple feats of speed, durability and, the variety of powers he has that you’ve entirely ignored in this response. Come on Dreager, you gotta give more than you have if you want to convince me of anything here.

      • So when it comes to speed, Galactus beating the Avengers is not as impressive as it sounds. Keep in mind that they all basically run into his hits but we haven’t seen Galactus show any kind of real speed. If you put him up against someone like Greninja, I don’t see him landing any hits. The difference in their overall abilities is just way too massive.

        As for attack power, Greninja has his Ash form and was even able to damage Mega Charizard. Galactus has taken damage from fighters like Thor and Ghost Rider who are strong but don’t hit with the same force so I don’t have any doubt that Greninja would be landing a lot of severe blows here. Galactus would be losing health the whole time and would ultimately go down.

        There’s not a lot of direct feats I can pull for Greninja outside of the fights themselves. Pokemon just doesn’t go for the full feats in a dramatic sense but we still have a lot of hype moments scattered throughout. What this fight really comes down to is that Galactus can be injured by Greninja and he can’t catch the guy. Those two data points are all you need in order to see why Greninja wins this fight

      • “So when it comes to speed, Galactus beating the Avengers is not as impressive as it sounds. Keep in mind that they all basically run into his hits but we haven’t seen Galactus show any kind of real speed. If you put him up against someone like Greninja, I don’t see him landing any hits. The difference in their overall abilities is just way too massive.”

        Let’s say you’re right about the Avengers, that they just run into his hands. Even with the speeds that I’ve mentioned they can reach, even with all the feats I mentioned. You still have yet to prove that Greninja is even comparable let alone faster. What you’ve said basically adds up to “I just really feel like he is” , which does nothing. Give me any sort of indication that Greninja can compare speedwise to any of Galactus’ enemies that i’ve mentioned. If you don’t I cannot take this argument seriously.

        “As for attack power, Greninja has his Ash form and was even able to damage Mega Charizard. Galactus has taken damage from fighters like Thor and Ghost Rider who are strong but don’t hit with the same force so I don’t have any doubt that Greninja would be landing a lot of severe blows here. Galactus would be losing health the whole time and would ultimately go down.”

        I beg of you PLEASE tell me what evidence you have that Greninja hits harder than Thor or Ghost Rider. Tell me how Mega Charizard’s durability is at all comparable to Galactus’. You know like casually tanking the friggin moon being thrown directly at him. Do you really believe any of Greninja’s attacks are at all comparable to an entire moon doing such a thing? Just like before if you cannot expand upon this I cannot take this argument seriously either.

        “There’s not a lot of direct feats I can pull for Greninja outside of the fights themselves. Pokemon just doesn’t go for the full feats in a dramatic sense but we still have a lot of hype moments scattered throughout. What this fight really comes down to is that Galactus can be injured by Greninja and he can’t catch the guy. Those two data points are all you need in order to see why Greninja wins this fight”

        You still haven’t proven that his attack power is enough to hurt Galactus significantly and neither have you proven that Greninja cannot be caught. You haven’t proved whatsoever that Greninja wins this battle or how Greninja can even hurt him significantly.

        Like I really don’t get it Dreager, i’ve already gone over at least twice why the points you’re making don’t work. You refuse to expand upon them at any point, and lead your argument down the same path every single time. I’ve explained thoroughly why your points aren’t logical or don’t give enough information to be taken seriously. At this point I have to assume that this isn’t just a lack of understanding. You’re seriously making it look like you just want to stick to your guns no matter how barebones they are and no matter how much they need to be expanded upon. In other words, it appears to me you’re being a contrarian just because you can.

      • I think we’re going in circles here but lets try to break this down. For speed, check this video out from 1:58-2:15

        There’s no way Galactus could hope to dodge or counter those blows. This is exactly the kind of speed disadvantage that would take him out of the fight. Greninja’s not going to get hit at this point. So we can rule the speed out. Now lets talk about power.

        Check the same video out from 6-8. He is able to take on a GIgantomax version of Machamp which has incredible durability and power. Yet Lucario’s attacks did massive damage. The same time frame also shows you how Greninja is able to block his full attacks.

        For Galactus, check this video out at 1:30

        A single blast of lightning is able to knock Galactus to the ground. Also note that his reaction times were basically 0 here. It’s really all a matter of speed and Galactus is just way too slow to do anything. If you have the speed advantage and enough power to damage your opponent (Greninja’s attacks are way better than a bolt of lightning) then you will win your match 99% of the time

    • I’m glad you’ve actually made an attempt at providing evidence, but I’m still utterly unconvinced. Not only have I shown feats that clearly outpace a lot of what you’ve shown here, this is Lucario, not Greninja. And even more damning is that Lucario was only able to compete via Mega Evolution, something Greninja has no access to. They’re different pokemon with entirely different typing and therefore entirely different moves. And if we’re talking Ash versions of these pokemon, in completely different regions in seperate versions of the anime.

      For the Speed video, it’s literally just Machamp wailing on Lucario and Lucario barely dodging anything. Hell he struggles even before Machamp goes beyond normal punching speed. To say this is at all comparable to any of the major enemies he’s faced is… i’m sorry to say it completely laughable. This is nothing compared to some of the beasts i’ve mentioned before.

      As for the durability stuff, I’ve already cited multiple feats that completely contradict what you’ve provided for Galactus. And I’ve stated them multiple times. The guy can tank a whole lot more than that in the comics and can do so consistently. Also, even in this video, (which I would basically ignore anyways since he’s got way better feats than this) Galactus has no visible damage and gets right back to business and blasts Thor with his eye beams. IT took a Penance Stare, something that ignores durability and is more based on all the shitty things someone has done for him to be defeated. If that didn’t happen, Galactus would’ve easily given this group of heroes a huge struggle.

      Again I am happy that you’ve provided something for me to actually look at and judge, but it’s not nearly enough for me.You’re out here using an entirely different pokemon with a Mega evolution with different typing.That’s what you’ve decided to use as your evidence for Greninja being able to take down Galactus.They are not the same Pokemon, and therefore I can’t consider what you’ve provided as evidence. And then you’ve provided a video for Galactus which I have multiple feats to contradict, and doesn’t even really show what it needs to show in order to prove your point.

      Feats to contradict the Galactus one:

      Being in the middle of an exploding star casually:

      Surviving the Moon slamming into him:

      Tanking all sorts of heroes blasting him at the same time:

      Greninja is far more likely to tire themselves out before they ever even get close to defeating Galactus. Galactus doesn’t even need to consistently dodge or hit Greninja with durability like this. And given the speed of the people he does fight, again like Thor and Silver Surfer, I don’t think Greninja is anything special to him. I’m still utterly unconvinced that Greninja has any chance of winning here.

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