Windman was able to beat Airman but will he be as lucky against the Master of Faster Tenguman. Tenguman has an attack where his nose grows and he blasts you. Tenguman also has a scife and can take out Windman with his vast power. Tenguman wins.
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Hey dreager, you know as always this is a cool battle with cool people, but i disagree with outcome. I think windman takes this one bro. Tenguman is a formidable opponent in his own right, but he’s outgunned here. The reason I’m saying this is because as we all know both have the ability to generate and manipulate the wind, however windman has done it on a higher scale than tenguman. Think about this, when mega. cross fuses with windman, the wind comes automatically with the fusion whereas with tenguman the wind has to be summoned (sounds like greater power to me). Another thing is that windman has a seal that keeps all his power under control, and when unleashed he has uncontrollable power (causing a wind storm that affected the net!), over the wind. Yes tenguman has speed but is he not utilizing the element that the other guy controls ,to a higher degree, to give him that speed
True, Windman is better with wind, but in overall fighting ability and attack power, he’s not nearly as good as Tenguman. In hand to hand fighting we’ve never seen him in action and since Tenguman is pretty skilled at using the wind, I don’t think it will hold him back that much. Windman’s seal was pretty intense and if we had seen his true power in action longer things could be different. Plus Tenguman has some long range attacks to hit Windman with. They would both put up a great fight
Guy controls ,to a higher degree(than tenguman) to give him that speed? Windman’s power over the wind would negate the speed factor and the pinoci’s attribue too (how can you hit what you can’t reach?), heck even megaman couldn’t do anything to him while he was unleashed so i think windman should take this.
Well, the wind can only keep Tenguman out of range for so long. Once Windman weakens, Tenguman will take the chance to surge forward and end the match. I do get what you’re saying though and things can go either way
True, tengus’ would put up a fight and is good at h2h, but he won’t get the chance to use it. His skill with wind is ok, but utterly useless against windman so fuujin totnado is out. The nose might get a shot in, but it won’t delete him plus it can only go so far and might get blown in another direction. Speed is not a factor and i dont see windman getting tired anytime soon. It’s like electro trying to wrestle the power of electrons with magneto, it’s just not going to happen. He may stand a chance with windman not unleashed, but with or without, it think windman takes this, plus propeller bombs and birds woll help so windman may actually have better long ranged weapons, which was tengu’s only leg to stand on.
I still think Tenguman’s speed will be the deciding factor. Windman’s long range attacks aren’t that fast and I don’t think that the wind will be able to hold this guy back for long. He is still a wind type after all so his experience with it is pretty good. Windman’s wind abilities are definitely pretty impressive, but once it comes down to a hand to hand fight, I don’t think he’ll have a chance. He’s never showed the same level of ability that Tenguman has in close range
Yes he is experienced wind manipulation and is probably a waaayyy better( would probably get a lick or 2) in h2h but remember he is moving that vast via the wind and windman is a stronger aerokinetic so much like magneto did to storm, he can stop him from using the wind to speed up. If tengu is able to get into close quarters as soon as the battle starts (which i don’t really see happening since windman is pratically one with the wind) and speedblitz, then maybe but Honestly i see him losing this. His wind mastery will help him fare better than, lets say, megaman, but it won’t help against him. He’s no slouch with the wind, but he’s no windman with it either, and it will most likely be negated. With seal 6-7- 10 without 9-10.
Well, the wind can slow him down, but I don’t think that it will make him completely stop. Windman could stop his attack on one front, but then he could circle around and land a solid blow on the opponent. I agree that the match will decide on if Tenguman can get up close for hand to hand combat. Once that happens then I think the match is won. I just don’t think that Windman could stop him from getting in close.
Also i agree tengu has better h2h but what good will it do him if he can’t use it. I don’t see windman tiring much however i do see a minor speedblitz, that is before windman blows him back. The objects may be slow but can be used as distractions to get his attention, leading him to be blown away. You see, it all boils down to wind control (becauze they’re major attacks depend on them ex, boost, tornadoes, cqc, etc) and it goes to windman, though i understand both sidez.
Well, Tenguman’s speed is partially helped by the wind, but he’s still physically fast on his own so the speedblitz can still happen. The objects can help to distract Tenguman, but it may only delay the inevitable. His durability is just too high and once he’s in close, the match may be over
Oh, i didn’t know you responded, stupid phone!!!!! Also tengu. utilizes the wind to move right, which is what windman controls on a higher degree (the same would happen if flashman tried to eletrocut electricman).. and his durability is actually about the same if not lower than windman (windman’s highest durability in mm4 is 1800 while tenguman in mm6 is 1500). He is a deadly force hand to hand but windman won’t sit there and do nothing. He may get hit, but that is but a small part in the battle. In order to get to windman he would have to get past his wind, and windman wont let him, its too intense even for tenguman.vEverything tengu can do windman can manipulate and do better. However he will get hit at the start of the battle (which is why i said 6-7) and he could end it, but i doubt if it will end there, and I’m sad to say it but those are the last hits he’s getting. I can definetly see tenguman pulling 3 or 4 wins and you’re right his fighting skills are levels above windman and he has speed, but when the wind is the source of your speed (i believes he uses it for locomotion, *he) and you depend on speed to use those fighting skills, the wind man takes it.
Well, the Airshoes are how Tenguman keeps up his intense speed, but even without them he’s pretty quick. Not nearly as quick, but still quick all the same. I think the reason why I don’t see Windman winning is his lack of attack power. He has his wind, but ultimately that won’t really hurt Tenguman. It can keep him from getting close, but damagewise he’ll be okay. Plus, the wind won’t stop him from extending his nose and landing a sharp hit. The hit leaves you paralyzed so then Windman’s wind abilities would be stopped and Tenguman could seize the opportunity to land the winning combo in.
Hey bro, i don’t want to annoy you by saying the same things over and over without recognizing your refute, so i have a proposition. How about we do these loop hole bypassing state:
1.we state why we think the character wins (ex: windman via superior speed, long ranged advantage, etc.).
2. The opposite person creates a counter arguement as to why they wouldn’t win.
3. The person can either concede to the counter or refute it.
4. Repeat step 3 and if it doesn’t work a second time, someone is stubborn as heck lol.
lol, we can try and stop the endless loop, but sometimes in the end we just agree to disagree. Still, let’s give it a shot!
1. Tenguman advantages
+Hand to Hand
+Speed
+Attacking Strength
+Longrange Attack
Windman won’t really be able to hurt him with the wind, only delay him and his attacking abilities aren’t that fast. They shouldn’t really be able to deal much damage.
Oh Nevermind! Forget that last post.
Oh…no prob, ignore my reply 😉
Agreed and thanks!
1. Windman’s advantages.
• superior aerokinesis (which means wind attacks won’t work)
•superior projectiles (which are slow to be sure, but he may be at a disadvantage of trying to move with all of that wind blasting him)
•unleashed form (tornadoes and a wind gust so strong even tenguman can’t withstand it).
Well, it’s true that the Aerokinesis will stop any wind attacks on Tenguman’s part, even in his unleashed form, I don’t think that the wind could get too intense for Tenguman. It still wouldn’t really hurt him, but maybe push him back for a while. Eventually Windman’s gusts will get weaker or Tenguman will just brave himself and get in there to finish it
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Heh, well at least it keeps things nice and complex 🙂
Hey it was foolish of me to assume that windman could control all things aero. I think windman would actually lose in when sealed but win unsealed. I assumed that just because he was better with the wind, he could control and be immune o the wind (which is not true ex fireman vs burnerman). Windman may get 5-5 sealed and 7-10 unsealed. Unsealed, tenguman would be to busy dodging to attack and if he did The nose would be blown away, fuujin tornado is probably not going to do much and he will be to distracted trying to stop the wind from blowing him away, the speed will be hindered by the gust and tornadoes. The wind may not but the constant gust and tornadoes will. Tengu doesn’t have many long ranged weapons and against an unleashed windman, getting near enough for h2h is a wish. Not to mention propeller bombs, birds, wind bombs, etc. His speed may work against sealed windman, but not unsealed, wind gust and tornadoes galore will overtake him and slow him down, not to mention other projectiles. Sealed, battle of long range and durability vs speed and skill. Unsealed, for tengu, it a battle of survival. Tengu may take it if he doesn’t unseal, but sooner or later he will and then it’s game over.
Well unsealed he is stronger for sure, but even then I don’t think that the wind can hurt Tenguman. Plus, Tenguman’s nose can’t really be blown away like that. It’s still a part of him so it should stay on the path. That should help Tenguman take back the long range advantage. So Tenguman just needs to avoid the bombs long enough for him to land a hit on Windman. Then once he’s stunned, Tenguman can take the chance to leap for victory
True, the wind can’t harm him, but the tornadoes can, plus the wind gust can hold him back (even if only a few feet). Even if it’s attached to him, it can be manipulate (like a arm out of a car) and pushed even more than than the rest of the body now that i think about it. He would be too busy trying to resist the wind to dodge it. He will get tired or slip up, and that will be his downfall.
Well to counter the tornadoes he has his own as well. While the nose is apart of him, it’s different than for us. He’s a netnavi (practically a robot) so his nose is made of sterner stuff. He still has his speed and he may not have to resist the wind. If Windman tries to blow him away, Tenguman can just let himself get blown away and then quickly dash back to end the match. If Windman tried to bring Tenguman towards him, Tenguman would happily oblige and make it a close combat match. Either way he can use the wind to his advantage
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You’re right he can create tornadoes, but not as many or as powerful as windman unleashed. And his body isn’t like ours, but the concept is the same. Tornadoes can bend steel and if it can throw mega like a rag doll, it’s safe to say it has the effect on navis as or tornadoes have on us. His powers were strong enough to cause tornadoes around an aera (which is like a city or state), and tengu is not immuned to the wind (just as protoman isnt immune to swords and sproutman isn’t to water, they are just resistant). It’s hard to speed up in a medium that is slowing you down so ii doubt he’d speedblitz an unleashed windman. The get blown back part is cool, but that’s the thing, when unleashed the wind is constant and it doesn’t just go away, the barrage of wind continues. Sure it won’t him, but that’s not it’s purpose, that’s what the tornadoes, propeller
Yeah, but I don’t think the wind is gonna knock Tenguman’s nose off. It’s just too physically attached to him. And if Windman tries to pull Tenguman towards him, then the close range disadvantage may be enough to take him down. Windman can blow him away for a while, but since it won’t hurt him, Tenguman will eventually overtake the wind or wait a while. Windman can’t shoot wind forever. It expends energy and all (most) beings get tired after a while. It would be like Spoutman trying to shoot water forever. Eventually he’d just run our of power. So once Windman runs out of wind things could get dicey
Bombs, wind bombs (which wouldn’t hit him normally, but remember he’s been slowed down by the immense wind) are for. Pulling tengu would be foolish and windmans’ no fool. Normal windman’s wind would do nothing to tengu but unleashed, he’s too much.
I dunno, I think he could still dodge the bombs. He’ll just follow the wind. Wherever Windman blows him, he’ll speed in that direction to avoid all attacks. Windman unleashed has a lot of wind power, but it still wouldn’t hurt Tenguman. Like when it rains a lot and then the rain gets even more intense. If you’ve got your life raft then you’ll still be okay. Since Tenguman’s a wind type it wouldn’t get to the point where it hurts him
Oh god no bro, not off, just off course. Also tengu will expend energy dodging all those tornadoes and projectiles remember, plus when he was unleashed he wasn’t even trying (he was just sitting there, his very presence making the tornadoes appear, as he wasn’t directing his powers at anything, imagine all of that directed at one target!!). I don’t think (not even tenguman) can hamdle an enraged windman, not with tornadoes (more than tengumans in strength and #), propeller bomb, and wind bombs. His speed is negated, via gusts and projectiles, nose is negated via wind blowing it off course, tornadoes via tornadoes, i think that wraps it up. Now keep in mind this is against unsealed windman and against sealed windman he could win (i would say 5.5-10). But it is unsealed that gives him this.
Ah, okay. Yeah, the wind could definitely blow it off course, but try, try, try again and eventually it should land a solid hit. Well, I don’t think he needs to dodge the tornadoes much since he can roll with them, but he shouldn’t use up that much energy dodging the bombs. Well, Windman was able to do all of that because he hadn’t been unsealed in a long time. Had the fight raged on for much longer, I don’t think he would have been able to keep up that much power. In the anime Spikeman was beating him (Albeit that Spikeman was amped up) in normal mode so once his extra power goes it could be all over
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Agreed, debates are awesome! Lo yeah, that could work, but wouldnt all those projectile be dangerous to an extended nose? Also his tornadoes are on another level bro, and so is he, i don’t think rolling will cut it. Think about it like this, even though hera has hydrokinesis, she can be caught in a whirlpool (tornado in tengu’s place), blasted back by a wave ( or a gust for tengu), or hindered speed (tengu) by aquaman (or windman in our case). Being hindered and trying to dodge is very hard, not to mention when he was doing that, he was fighting anyone, so he wasn’t really doing anything. If that is what he’s like without directing anything. Imagine bro all that on one person, and windman actually trying. True, spikeman was beating him and even impaled him, but as you stated he was amped and windman was normal, so i think tengu would fare better (and even win against) against normal windman. However windman wins via unsealed form.
The projectiles would be dangerous so Tenguman would definitely have to be careful when extending it. He definitely couldn’t spam that attack. The thing with his unsealed form is that we didn’t really get to see it in action. In the game you see some mini tornadoes flying around while trying to reach him, but they didn’t really seem that strong. He’s tough to be sure, but I don’t think the power increase will be that drastic. Tenguman should still be able to cope with the wind and land the solid finishing blow once he’s close enough
Hey, I’m not sure if you texted back (my phone is an idiot) or not but i’ll have to text you backat 8:00. I can continue then :-).
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I’m back. I agree he would have to be careful when extending and yes it’s true his power has Never been really explored and the tornadoes were small, but if they were large and really up to scale in power, how would they fit on the road, and how would you pass the round? Now I’m not saying he’s a wind god or anything but you have to remember that the tech wasn’t as good as it is now so those tornadoes were all they had, so it is more of the concept that matters. If mega thought it was bad, then it was pretty bad, if not he would have not been so frantic plus tengu has not done anythine nearly as impressive and as for tengu’s aerokinetic coping, i would like to refer you to my aquaman/ mera post i did previously. Just because you have a power doesn’t make you immuned, just more resistant than the person without it, that why i changed the windman takes tengu’s powers arguement, because they can but be hurt by theor very element. The wind threw around navis like rag dolls and he was just sitting there, imagine it directed. I think it’s safe to say tengu will have his hands full, and will be a bit overwhelmed by an all out windman. I also don’t se him getting close without windman knowing. Speed hindered by wind and nose attack hitting with all of those hazards around is rather improbable. I think windman wind via overwhelming his opponent.
Well, I’m sure that the tornadoes were bigger than shown, but I still don’t think the power increase was that drastic. His wind powers are definitely something to look out for, but Tenguman should be okay. He is still in his element and while he’s not immune to wind, I don’t think the Tornadoes will bother him that much. So, I think Tenguman would endure the wind being thrown at him and slowly he would close the gap in distance between him and Windman. Then once he’s close enough, he’ll end the match with a solid match ending hit
I think that if he was affecting the net and other navis were no where to be seen, there was a dramatic increase, (just look at mega’s expression and he wasn’t even trying bro :-D. And if his own medium started pushing back on him, he would be slowed down significantly. aquaman is in his element but best believe if he fought namor and namor hit him with a water current, he would fly back. Plus windman wouldn’t just let him get close, and since his speed would be slowed (not completely, just to the point where it’s managable) the dodging would be hard, and he can’t dodge them all. I see him getting tired and getting hit before he hits windman, the odds are against him….
Actually I think Aquaman would prevail in a water battle with Namor….Well Windman did blow away a lot of navies, but Tenguman is a wind navi, plus he’s really skilled. I don’t think his speed would be slowed to a crawl. He would be slowed, but he’d still be fast enough to cause some real damage. Once he makes it to Windman…Kapow! I just don’t think that Windman can stop him from making it
Agreed, aquaman would prevail but you get the concept. Both would affect each other (because they are both pretty powerful) with water just as both would affect each other with the wind, except windman may be superior. It’s like ang and the new avatar, both can use the wind to push and hurt each other, but if one is way more powerful than the other, guess who’s getting blown away or won’t get to do all they planned. True, he has skills and will still have some speed, it will be managable enough to where windman can actually keep up with and have a probable chance of hitting him. Just because he’s a wind navi doesn’t mean he can’t be overpowered in the wind. All I’m saying is that tengu could resist the strong winds, dodge all the projectiles, and still have enough energy to speed blitz windman, but it’s unlikey. Scaring away birds with the wind and flipping navis without trying are two diff. Things.
Well, I don’t think the water would be able to slow either of them down really. They’re both just way too used to the water. I still don’t think the wind would really present much of a problem to Tenguman at all. He’s a highly skilled wind navi so he knows how to handle himself. Windman’s tornadoes can keep getting stronger and stronger, but they still won’t blow him away. If only they’d appear again in a new game, then we’d have more material to base them on. But as of now I think Tenguman has the edge
The force of the wind in general may not hurt him (the tornadoes would) but it would,indubitably, hinder his movement. Now he can make the wind dice or anything like that, but he can make tengu waste energy dodging and then it’s over. Plus it will be more than a wall of wind so breaking past one of wind will only open a door into more wind, since it’s not like a if he can get this he’s home free barrier, kind of like with freezeman’s barrier.
Well, I think Tenguman would definitely need to rely on his speed. It’ll take up energy to keep up the speed, but if he attacks fast enough if will also start draining Windman. Like with Rock Lee vs Gaara. Rock Lee was moving so fast that Gaara had to keep trying to block his attacks from all sides and then he was given a good punch. Tenguman will keep circling Windman at great speeds and then land a hit from his weak side. Even if he surrounds himself with wind, Tenguman’s speed could prove difficult from above
True, they are used to it, but not at the levels the other guy can. The force from a tsunami would be too great (not to mention on one of the comics i saw aqua getting pushed away by a wave some other dude created, it’ll come back to me) for either to simply shrug off. The force of the wind may have the same effect. You’re right i wish we had more shows of his power so i wouldn’t have to mix facts with speculation, because it hard to tell where he really is. Also if a guy with speed is in a familiar that he can manipluate and a guy with greater power and projectiles were to come, i think speedy will lose, here’s why. Now you’re right tengu is fast and skilled in the wind, but he is fighting in a medium that is being manipulated at a higher degree than he can control, so the force of it may be too much, the same applies for any other person who is trying to manipulate their power against a stronger being. He can be pusged by the wind just as heatman can burn fireman. Aquamqn is immned to the affects of water but you’d better believe that if all of earths water is dumped on him, the force will blow him away like anyone else. Tenguman is resistant to wind so it may not affect him as much as non wind navis, but it does have a affect. Windmann’s power is the equivalent of a tornado on us, and though he can control wind, not to degree shown by windman. I think he’ll be slowed down abit and all of those projectiles will catch him.
I think both of them could stand tall against a Tsunami. A Tsunami is powerful, but they have super strength and are masters over the ocean. There are very few beings who would hope to overwhelm them with water. Windman’s abilities are dangerous, but I don’t think they’re at the point where they would have a dangerous effect on Tenguman. If Windman’s powers were shown to be even greater than they currently are then maybe. Like Goku could probably overpower Tenguman with wind because when he powers up, everything gets blown away. But Windman’s wind abilities aren’t quite at that level yet so I think Tenguman could still resist. Then he can get in close and end the match
Hey, i wasn’t sure if you did’nt respond yet or my phone os a retard so I’ll just add this. As you know wind man is considered a god by his people and that may be a testament of his strength. Another testament is that the massive windstorm we saw happened as a result of his being unsealed, so he wasn’t even trying, at all. It’s like how world breaker hulks testament of strength is him walkimg and sinking the eastern seaboard in the process. Neother one really did anything aactively, but their very pressence caused massive things to happen. So yeah, testament of strength.
I don’t know about that though. Windman seemed to be going a bit insane once he was unleashed. I think he was making the storm on purpose so that they would all bow before him. So, that could very well be the limit of his power. If it is, then it could be even harder to win this round. Still a great fighter, but Windman may need more techniques in the longrun
I’m back. Now i do agree that he was a bit off and was probably not the windman we know, but it was his unsealing that caused the storm. It’s like how goku and the gang power up and cause damage without trying to, they don’t actually direct their power they just get it on standby so that at any second, they can use it. Id think he wanted them to bow bro, if he did it would have been stated outright, or hinted at. Even if it is his limit, it’s enough for tengu to be overpowered, and he would be blown back, he wouldn’t be strong enough to resist the wind. Think about this, tengu’s greatest feat is utilizing the wind to scare crows and make making a few tornadoes, windman’s greatest feats = his very unsealing caused a windstorm. If aang can be hurt/puched back by the wind (who arguably has greater feats than tengu) then it’s safe to say that he will be pushed back and hindered. He has “more where that came from” as they say and i think it was stated in the wiki that his unsealing caused the storm.
Well, Goku’s a different story. That guy could destroy the whole megaman universe in one blast (But would be defeated by Megaman or Bass) Aang’s good, but I think Tenguman would definitely take him out in a fair fight. I still think Windman was using all of his power, he just couldn’t control it and that’s why it was all over the place. I think Tenguman could definitely resist the wind long enough to get in and end the match. Even if he’s blown back it won’t actually hurt him so he can keep on trying and trying until he gets back
True, he’s no goku, but i was more or less using it as an example (they are pretty similar, the power effects i mean). Idk about aang vs tengu, we have never seen tengu’s full potential but that’s another debate for another time perhaps. I saw that it was his unsealing that caused it and he was not trying to attck mega, you know? I really don’t think it’s his full potential and i can quote if need be. True, i totally agree the wind will not harm him, but it will keep him a safe distance and hinder the speed. I don’t think windman will give him a chance to recover and strike back, so.i see tengu (for all his skill and speed) being overpowered and bombarded with attack that would usually be nothing to him to dodge, but because of the overpowering wind, he would slip up and lose the match.
Well, I don’t think that he was attacking Megaman directly, so much as he just wanted to destroy everything around him. Well, Windman can keep him back for a while, but since it won’t hurt him, Windman will be using up a lot of his power while Tenguman is still at full power. So, Windman would run out of power at some point and then Tenguman will still be ready to roll
I see what you’re saying about the destroy everything (because before i thought that too), but evidence suggest that he didn’t actually try at all and hee (from my pov) didn’t seem stressed at all.if anything tengu will be tired from trying to hold his spot in a medium he is being overpowered in while endless projectiles fly at him. Having to dodge while trying to maintain a position is hard and having his opponent try is even more dangerous. Skills can only get you so far. I don’t think he can ride this one out.
I dunno, plus it would be hard to make a sprite look like it was stressed. It wasn’t exactly Gamecube tier back then. Well, Tenguman would roll with the wind and dodge the projectiles until Windman gets tired. Or just charge in right from the start and speedblitz. Also Windman doesn’t have unlimited ammo, at some point the energy reserves would start getting low and then Tenguman could take advantage of that
Touce, it would be hard to show a stressed face on such a little figure on such an low tech (now that is) device. However i think it would be hard to roll wiswth the tornadoes while having to keep from getting blown away by the gust. Plus he would have to dodge alot and remember windman knows how to use his powers to hit his target. I’ll concede to the speedblitz, but it seems rather improbable that tenguman will finish it then and there or that windman wouldn’t unleash before it was too late. Also i see his powers overwhelming him before he runs out and the force of the tornadoes should hurt him a little. He’s limited in resources, but with his power, it won’t in matter.
But he doesn’t have to worry about being blown away. He can always come back later. As long as it doesn’t really hurt him, then he’ll be all right. The tornadoes may rough him up a bit, but I don’t think it would really injure him. Then he’ll be back and ready to pwn. That’s why I think Tenguman will win in the longrun
Ohhhh, i see your premise :-0! It true he could just come back but won’t the wind still be there when he gets back? Plus he has projectiles and wouldn’t let him catch a break, maybe normal windman would, but not him. You’re also right about the tornadoes, they wouldn’t hurt him much, but they can add to the pressure. I do get what you’re saying and he would come back to pawn, but id think he can get close enough to, not to an raging, unleashed windman.if tengu tries to ride out the storm and dance around, windman can use varied (in power) wind gust and projectiles that will eventually hit him, you know? He is quite tbe strategist on the game and i think that though most definetly has skills, it will be to much for him. Unsealed 6-7/10.
Well the wind would still be there for a while, but eventually Windman will run out of power and then Tenguman could take the win. Windman can throw a lot of projectiles at Tenguman, but he’ll keep on using up a lot of power and he’ll run out sooner. For Tenguman he won’t have to worry about losing much power since he can just wait until the wind’s gone. Windman is pretty smart though so he would put up a good fight
That’s the thing, he did all that without actually doing anything, id think tengu will be able to ride the storm out. Plus windman wouldn’t simply let him recover, he would keep up all kinds of projectiles and by the time they run out, tengu will be deleted. His power is too much for tengu to handle and windman has durability on his side.
Well, it’s like Goku. Just by standing there he could probably blow up planets, but it does take away power (albeit slowly) He couldn’t keep that up forever. I think Tenguman could ride just about any storm out and the more projectiles Windman throws out, the faster that his energy will be depleted. So, it may actually help Tenguman in the longrun
True, he cant keep it up forever, which is an advantage for tengu. However, the rest of the benefits remain in windman’s court and quite frankly, he won’t need it to last forever and he can end it there. If he can make a storm appear by his very presence then his power will be more than enough and tengu will be the most likely person burning energy (dodging projectile while trying to retain your position is pretty draining) so i think it’s a battle of stamina.
But remember, Tenguman doesn’t need to retain his position. He can just let the wind blow him away and not fight it. Then he can attack Windman from another angle while his guard is down. Windman can try protecting himself from all sides, but he would end up using up even more energy that way. Stopping Tenguman is just a super tough thing to do
Hey bro, im at work but I’ll tty at 9:00.
Alright, see ya around then. I’ll probably be here at 9, but if not I’ll definitely reply at some point
Letting the wind blow him away and sneaking up :-O, not bad. However, though that it is a good technique, i doubt windman would not purse and keep the pressure on him. Now if it were bubbleman or some extreme arrogant navi, sorry to say it but….. cosmoman, that tactic would work but not on windman, he doesn’t underestimate. Another thing i thought could work for tengu war if he zoomed away and waited for tengu to power down. However that would mean he would have to cross the length of an area almost instantaneously, and i doubt he could do it. If windman can affect an whole are without burning energy, then i no doubt he can win this war. Speed can only take you so far, and hindered speed is even worse. Also if tengu starts to run like a sissy into the safe zone, windman can always pull the wind towards him, but only in range of projectiles. And his tamlering with the wind can temporarily wind him, effectively paralyzing himband ending the fight.
Well, Windman would be blasting him with extremely intense blasts of wind. So if Tenguman pretended to fight it for a while and then quickly dashed with the wind. Windman would have probably blown him way out of sight range. So even if he gave chase, it wouldn’t be that difficult fort Tenguman to hide and plan an ambush or just charge towards Windman so that he doesn’t see him until it’s too late. As for Windman reversing the flow of wind, it’s a bit risky since Tenguman can extend his nose. Since it paralyzes, one hit will be enough to take Windman down (Since he couldn’t move to dodge Tenguman’s close combat skills
Hey bro, since saint p days tomorrow we’ll pick this debate up the next day. Ttyl.
Alright, see ya then
Hey bro, i won’t be able to finish the debate today, my dad wants to spend time with me on spring break (i don’t really want to though, he’s judgemental) and i he won’t let me use my phone *yaaaa :-‘*. Its going to be like this from mon-wends. I’ll talk to you when i can, peace bro :-(.
Alright, see ya soon then man. No worries, the weather should be great at least
True, he could blow him away pretty far away and that is an excellent tactic, but windman would expect that and when he approached would have his winds rev up. And true, the nose is a danger, but 2 things save him A. When he pulls the wind forward, tengu will be going as fast (or faster if he’s trying to hit windman), so he can push it back again to knock the air out of him or at least stun him for an attack. Of course tengu will be able to fight afterwards but he will be a little hurt. And 2 if the nose does connect and paralyze him (a skill from the game) we must also follow the game’s rules. This means after 1 attack, the paralysis is off and the wind will push tengu back again repeating the process (and it’s fair because in both scenarios both recover from being stunned 😉 ).
Well, if the nose were to hit him, I don’t think he’d have time to get back up and fire the wind because Tenguman would dash to him right away to try and end the match. It probably depends on how fast Windman’s reactions are. He could keep shooting Tenguman back and forth with his wind, but he’ll keep on using a lot of energy at that rate. In a long drawn out battle, Tenguman may have the advantage since he wouldn’t be using many special techniques the whole time
True, his nose does paralyze you but if we are going to use an attack from a game, we must also use it’s outcome. Meaning that once tengu gets a good shot in, windman will be unparalyzed and the winds will come back (he doesn’t have to summon them, unlike tengu) also tengu can’t end it in one shot because od windman’s durability and if an amped needdleman couldn’t delete him, i doubt tengu could, at least in one shot. And as for him wasting energy, it’s true. Windman would easte alot of energy (though a windstorm across the net didn’t cost him any….. but whatever) but it would be worth it. What i mean by that is that the variation of wind would confuse tengu and keep him guessing and may distract him from incoming projectiles, and the surprised gust (because i doubt a expected gust will do.much) may take his breath away or stun him.
Well, one hit should be all it takes. Like how Megaman can defeat pretty much any opponent in one hit with a vertical or horizontal slash. Tenguman just needs a good slash in and Windman should cease to function. Really, most characters would lost in one hit to a blade if slashed correctly.
Well, I think the strain on Windman would keep getting higher and higher the longer that he kept up the windstorm. He didn’t seem fatigued in the game because he had just started and we weren’t at Gamecube graphics yet. Keeping Tenguman guessing is definitely a good strategy, but Windman can only keep it up for so long before Tenguman figures out a pattern and gets out of there
Yeah a slash is fatal in exe, but being impaled is also, windman was and still lived. Plus what is he going to slash with, that thing on his arm? It looks like it will hurt, but we don’t really know. Plus if he can use that, can windman use his wind fan (it has his color scheme and windsoul has it and as we all know mega gains the powers of the soul his is using so technically windman could have a windfan)? Id think it will cost him much energy to keep up the storm, heck the storm in the net wasn’t even summoned by him, it came as a result of the seal being removed, he had nothing to do with that. It may cost him energy, but if he can do that effortlessly (and that storm would give tengu some problems, not extremely bad problems, but problems all the same) him trying will be too much, and tengu will be using all the energy.
Well, getting impaled isn’t the same as being stabbed. Slashing tends to be a lot more fatal. Yeah, I think the thing on his arm would be what he uses to land the critical blow. We’ve never seen Windman with the windfan so that’s a no go for now. Maybe he’ll use it in a future appearance. Well, the storm came up because all of the power that was sealed inside of Windman had to rush out. That’s why he didn’t need to use energy to keep the storm up, but once the excess power is used up, then he would have to use his energy to keep it up, which should drain it pretty fast
You’re right, it’s not the same, getting impaled is much much worse. Impalement hasn’t happened much in megaman (too gruesome) so we really can’t judge how effective it is but in real life, i’d rather be slashed than impaled. Ok, no windfan 😦 and in a sense yes, the energy came from him. The point I’m making is that his power was so great that it caused the wind around his vicintiy to go crazy,without his concious effort. I said the storm will not last forever, but while it does, it will be more than enough to take tengu out and he won’t have to burn much of it to do it. Tengu will be tired before windman is, he’s just too much.
I dunno. Think about it, if you’re slashed in half…it’s all over. But it is possible to survive impalement. I mean, Zenkichi (Human from Medaka Box) was impaled like a dozen times, but he kept on going. I don’t think being impaled is as bad as being hit by a complete slash.
Well, the storm was basically his excess power, but if he started using power on an attack, then the storm would probably cease or he’d have to use effort with it. Otherwise I don’t think the storm in itself will cause Tenguman much harm. He’s got too much experience with the wind
Well its important to remember that there are different degrees of impalement and slashing. Both at ,their fullest degree, are fatal but think about it like this, would you rather have your arm cut off via slashing or have it impaled through you arm (breaking your bones and having to get it cut off)? Plus if the slash is not deep enough you may still live whereas with getting impaled, even if it isn’t deep enough, it will feel worst and You’ll probably die faster. When unleashed he has untapped energy that he is using yes, but he can intensify it to where even someone as skilled as tenguman (which is debatable becausevhe used to the calm wind or at worst a tornado, but nothing on windman’s level) can’t withstand it. Even though his power made that storm, he didn’t even try and that is whats makes him trump tengu, his raw power is too much especially for someone not trying. Tengu would definetely be the tired and weaker navi before windman would be.
Hmm, yeah it’s close. Both are definitely something you’d want to avoid but with impalement at least you can still fight. Still, beating Tenguman is a pretty tough. I’d say that he could probably wait out the storm and deflect the projectiles with his tornados or just dodge them until Windman runs out of power
True both are bad and it depends on the degree of impalement and the place, just like with a slash. Now to tengu, if his power is strong enough to affect the net’s area where is he going to go? It is all around him. Deflecting won’t work for long because windman’s tornadoes are stronger than his so he’d waste alot of energy trying to stop one tornadoe after the other, and dodging all of that will probably waste tons of energy and delay the inevitable.
Well, I meant to block the bombs. He can just roll with the tornadoes, so he doesn’t need to try and deflect them. He can kind of let the wind throw him around for a while and then when Windman runs out of power he can get up and finish the job. The bombs are the main thing he needs to worry about
The tornadoes are way too powerful to roll with, the bombs (propeller and wimd bombs) would soon overwhelm him. Windman can make the wind blow him into the bombs and the gust will do more than just gently knock him around. They won’t KO him like they would a non aero navi, but they would also hurt him a little (actually more than a little) too.
Well he can use his own tornados to block the bombs and I think he could brace himself and ride with the gusts. They’re fierce, but in the end they are still wind and against an wind navi that won’t help much. Tenguman just needs to wait for an opening
ok, i’ll concede to the bomb counter, but him riding gust that can appear at different times in variations of pressure? He will be flipping all over the place trying to do that and may get caught off guard and knocked out, that wouldn’t be a wise move. And true it is wind against a wind navi, but it is super strong wind sent from a overpowered navi. At best he can slow it down but even he has his limits of what he can control, these winds are out of his range from what I’ve seen.
Well, he doesn’t have to be ready for the wind. He just lets his body go limp or lies down on the floor and lets all of the different winds hit him. Then later on he’ll get up and charge at Windman with a surprise tackle. Windman wouldn’t have seen it coming
Ok, i like that surprise tackle idea, i can see that :-). But wait, if he lets his body go limp wouldn’t the force of the wind hitting him really hurt and wouldn’t windman make sure he was KOed (via propeller bomb or wind bomb)? Plus it may him give him enough time to create a massive tornadoe like he did on megaman 4.5 except on a scale even higher since he’s unleashed.
Well, it’s like when you’re swimming. If you go limp, then the waves just pull you along with them and it’s a lot easier than fighting it. Well, if Windman starts building a giant tornado then that will be Tenguman’s chance to do his surprise tackle. Windman’s defenses would be down and he may not be able to react fast enough to stop him
I get your premise, but it won’t be like in a swimming in calm water, it would be like leave yourself open to a tsunami or a very large very powerful wave. Even animals who live in tbe sea can be toased around with enough force and tengu is like those animals, he’s used to calm (or a little bit ot of hand) wind, but not of this multitude. Tengu will be more than bothered by the winds and it’s safe to say he will be throwed for a loop. Ok, the massive tornado idea might not work and one tornado by itself may not be too much of a problem for tengu (since he does have some power over the wind) but multiple tornadoes along with the gust should suffice. Too much power for one navi to handle.
But getting thrown for a loop is what he wants. It’s like if you just lie down when a tsunami hits you. it will carry you away, but you’ll pretty much be uninjured (If you can breath underwater anyway) so with the wind, he’ll just let it toss him around like a ragdoll until it goes away. Then he can quickly come back and unleash his killer moves
But here’s the thing, if you get hit by a tsunami, the force will be devastating and you’re going to die, period. Now the same would happen to a normal navi but since tengu is a master of the wind he won’t die rather he will be knocked back or temporarily winded. Now multiple winds on this force would hurt him, alot and if he doesn’t fight back, im afraid he may not live.
Well, I think he’d just be pushed back by the wind and it probably wouldn’t really hurt him. I think they’d just keep on blowing him farther and farther away, then he can rush back towards Windman and achieve a counterattack
Idk bro i think it will. If the past is any indication, he will be hurt. For example if magneto can hurt storm (who too is a master of electromagnetism) with electricity, if human torch can hurt pyro (both are masters of pyrokinesis) with heat, storm can hurt windshear or whirlwind (both utilize and are masters of the wind) with the wind, then i think windman can hurt tengu. Now the rushing idea is not bad, but you have to remember windman is blowing wind all around him as tengu gets closer the density of the wind and gust # increases so idk if he is strong enough to power past someone with superior ability than him. Now your story was good and i could accept that, but honestly how many times out of ten would that happen? Windman should take this or at least the majority here.
Well, I get what you mean by those examples. but it’s a bit different. aside from the Storm example, those elements are meant to hurt Wind is more of a peaceful thing. From the 5 great elements (Wind, Thunder, Fire, Ground, and Water.) Wind and Ground are typically the weakest, but can be strong when they need too. Now, I think Windman can hurt Tenguman, but not with wind. I think his bombs are Windman’s biggest chance. Well, the wind gets thicker, but Windman can’t hold it forever and it will expend energy. Plus, there’s always a weak point so if he distracts Windman from the front, he can dash to another side. It would be tricky, but I think that Tenguman would usually have this
Wind is not really weak, it’s just that people are so used to it that they take it’s power for granted, much like water. Now you’re right it’s not meant to be harmful but when used correctluit is one of the strongest. The force of the wind will hurt him, so technically the wind would hurt him. If he is blowing away everything easily, alittle more will blow tengu away and he has wind all around him, there are no weak points really. His energy level will be higher than tengus’s givimg him the win.
I don’t think the force of the wind would hurt Tenguman though. Windman’s not able to make the wind slice and dice like other wind users can. Or at least he’s never shown that kind of power. Tenguman would break through his wall of wind eventually and go in for the win
Bro, my mom is being unreasnable so i may not get to talk tomorrow (or any this week) tty when i can though :-(.
Well, til then I guess, by then your next request fight should be up at least
Yeah he can go top speed….. and get hit by a tornado (it’s hard to stop at top speed and the opposing wind would already make it hard), which is all he needs to win the match.
The tornado won’t really do anything to Tenguman since tornadoes are pretty passive. Tenguman is fast, but unlike Kaiju, he’s still very maneuverable. I don’t believe that he would have difficulty with turning while at super speed
Hey, why is everyone just voting tengu and not contributing to the conversation? If you think tengu takes this then please, bring your arguement and post it, and i will refute it :-). Because honestly I’m getting a little aggravated of putting up such a good arguement for my character only to watch him lose anyway! Thanks for actually responding dreager and you don’t have to respond to all three post, you can just do it on one post.
Yeah, it would be awesome if everyone that voted commented as well. It would be cool to see what my fellow Tenguman supporters have to say in his defense. Yeah, it is tough when the fighter loses even after a long and tough debate, but there’s one way to at least minimize the sadness…trying to get him a new win via request. Of course they can be risky with backfires and all….Of course every requester..and I mean Every requester has had a backfire or 2 in the past so it just takes time and all
Yeah, that was a good battle! I love gaara! Agreed, speed is key for tengu but all of those projectiles may overwhelm him, and the wind won’t help the situation at all. He may speed into something. Agreed if others responded it would be awesome! You’re right i can help him win more with requests and i will definetely do that ;-).
Yeah, the projectiles can be tricky and running into one would definitely be pretty bad for his chances. I think he would be fast enough to avoid them, or at least minimize the damage with his arm blade. Well, sounds like a plan. One win can go a long way! 🙂
His speed is a bit of a problem, and if he dodged and manipulated the wind a little, he could win. However windman’s intense wind manipulation and and projectiles may prove to be too much and can you slash a bomb or a tornado?
Well he wouldn’t want to slash the bomb (Because it would blow up and take out a good chunk of health) but maybe push it away with his weapon or just brace himself with his arm blade to minimize the damage. For the tornadoes he can dash through them at top speed so that he won’t have to be tossed around for very long
Minimizing the damage would be good, but multiple times? Pushing past swirling windat high speed = him being very injured.
He couldn’t do it too many times, but Windman won’t get that many chances. Eventually Tenguman’s speedblitz will leave Windman wide open for a solid gamebreaking attack
With all those tornadoes and bombs? A speedblitz would be most unwise. No to mention the intense wind.
Well, picture Rock Lee and Gaara. Tenguman would be running around him at incredible speeds so that he won’t even have time to react to him until it’s too late
Yeah, but those are two diff. Paardigms. Tengu will have to deal with lots of wind resistance and tornadoes and bombs galore, that fight was awesome though, sand coffin!!!!
Easily one of the better Naruto fights! Well, the wind shouldn’t slow him down much thanks to his incredible speed and I think he could dodge most of the bombs easy enough. A couple may hit him, but not that many and then he’ll start getting in the solid hits
Right!? One of the best battles! Wind gust that are past his ability to control? He would have trouble speeding past it. And tornadoes galore, with bombs strategictally behind them :-‘. Wind resistance plus tornadoes and bombs = not so much super speed.
His speed should definitely still be enough. Like how when the Flash or Rock Lee were running, they could still dodge enough obstacles to get to the goal. I think his speed would still be enough to get up close to Windman and end the match
Yeah, but rocky (i nicknamed him that) didn’t have to deal with gust and powerful tornadoes. Don’t get me wrong, gaara was awesome, but they are two diff paradigms. And the flash, well he’s the flash.
True, but they still had to dodge their fair share of obstacles. Windman’s bombs can be tricky, but they’re pretty small so dodging them shouldn’t be a problem for someone like Tenguman
True, they did, but not on this scale. And tengu skills skill with the wind my be overpowered by windmans and too mich speeding will end him.
Tenguman won’t need to use his wind all that much and just focus on speed, but he can use a bit of wind to throw Windman off balance. Windman will be focusing on hitting him with the wind, so if Tenguman randomly shoots some wind, it will throw off Windman’s calculations and help Tenguman take the win
How is he going to shoot wind at windman when windman is surrounded by his own, stronger wind? As for speed, windman will have wind all around him, since he is the source of the wind, so i don’t see him getting him close. He will waste lots of energy dodging, which will be his downfall.
Well, Windman’s shooting a lot of wind around to slow down Tenguman and take him down, so if Tenguman throws some of his own wind into the fray, it will change the game. The wind may be at an angle that Windman hadn’t been counting on and it could wreck his gameplan. The wind is strong, but when you’re going fast enough, the wind can’t stop you
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Well is his wind even strong enough to make a difference, for example is a fan is blowing during a tornado, will it matter, i don’t think so. Also it is like a chaos blast so i doubt it will be at an angle. Speed can only go so far.
Well, when the difference is that vast, then it won’t help. But if you turn a fan on to max power it will affect the wind that the ceiling fan is sending out. The Ceiling Fan is stronger, but the Fan’s wind is more focused on a single point. Windman can shoot wind on all directions, but when doing that, there will always be a weak point because of the supplied power to all sides
From what I’ve seen, his weakest point would be stronger than tengu can manage, it’s more than just a ceiling fan to fan, it’s way stronger, i dare say leagues stronger.
I don’t think that it will be enough to stop Tenguman. Since Windman is focusing wind on all sides, he has to divide up his power for them to all be equally strong. Making each individual side weaker. So Tenguman should have no problem busting through
It will be equally strong on all sides, and if was enough to make tornadoes, then he’s good. Tengumans only wind feats are scaring away birds and creating 3 tornadoes, so let’s not assume he can wrestle or even resist windman’s wind. Windman greatest feat was creating a windstorm without directing any of the tornadoes or gust, there’s really no comparison. Each side is more than capable of taking tengu.
I think Tenguman could definitely break through with a well times charge. Windman is strong, but shooting wind at all sides is definitely going to be taxing and lower the overall defense. Tenguman’s pretty good with wind and thanks to his speed it will help his momentum
Speed would help, but he’d be headed for an enviornment filled with tornadoes, resistance and bombs galore, his speed will be hindered and will be an easier target for windman, as for momentum, it may be his end.
I think the momentum will be enough to penetrate the wind and give Windman a solid hit that will take him out of the match for this round. He can dodge the bombs and use the wind to his advantage
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I probably won’t be here then, but I’ll definitely reply early tomorrow
It’s not just one wall of wind and he’s home free, he’ll have to speed past an enviroment that is pushing against him, plus the bombs and tornadoes will take advantage of his hindered speed speed and he’ll be toast, as he is in an enviroment that is dominatedby his opponent.
His speed will negate the wind resistence and not even Windman will be able to stop him when he’s being speedblitzed on all angles. Tenguman is just too fast and he just needs an opening for an instant to launch his nose and paralyze Windman. Then he can move in for the win
He cant speedblitz from all angles, he’s not quickman after all :-). Strong winds can hinder speedsters so speed doesn’t nes. equal wind resistance, or at least not on this level. I doubt he’ll get close enough to use the nose, and if he does he’ll be spotted by windman and tengu is already slowing down at it is, so he’ll be defeated.
He’s still really fast so he can try circling Windman a lot. I’d say that he can get to Windman eventually or at least find an opening to use his nose to paralyze Windman. He just needs the opening for an instant and he’s set. The nose is pretty long range after all
Continous, super strong wind with no chance of stopping with the range of an area? I doubt he’ll be fast enough to push his way through that, plus there will be no holes, it wont stop.
Well, Windman can’t keep it up forever so they would be stopping at some point. I think his speed could get him in deep enough to launch the nose or strike at Windman
He won’t need to, tengu would be exhaustef waaay before windmanwould be. Also he’d be slowed down an easier to react to, so his nose would meet a bomb.
The nose fires at a very fast speed. The wind resistance won’t be able to slow it down long enough for Windman to fire a bomb. It all happens in mere seconds. Tenguman won’t need to go on for too long because he just needs an opening or to break in the wind
Yeah, but windman would see him coming from mile away and i don’t think he’ll get that close.
With his speed, it will be hard for Windman to prevent him from getting that close
His speed is limited and his projectiles are to much for tengu, his power has the area of an area an is strong on all sides of it. He won’t be getting close.
The projectiles won’t be too much of a threat considering Tenguman’s speed and Tenguman should still be able to get through the wind barrier. Once he’s through it, then he can bring on the damage
Wind slows down speed significantly and the its more than a wind barrier, and it won’t break through one part and be home free.
He’d just run at top speed and keep on penetrating all of the speed barriers until he’s home free. The wind will slow him down, but I think his speed will be sufficient to make it through and then he just needs one good hit to make the match his