Kylo Ren is completely outclassed in every facet of this fight. He really doesn’t stand a ghost of a chance against a foe as impressive as Dark Vader. Yes, everyone calls him Darth Vader, but I always used this term since I was a kid and never wanted to change it. It sounds hardcore and regardless, I still cannot respect Kylo Ren as a villain or as a character. He just came across as very weak and helpless. That’s essentially what he would be feeling during this fight as well since Dark Vader would effortlessly overpower him and take the win within seconds. Dark Vader wins.
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I choose Vader. Based on the movie, Kylo Ren is strong but not enough to be Vader’s level.
Yes, he was getting his can kicked by a force user who had never wielded a lightsaber before! Kylo still needs to find his inner power to compete with Vader.
I agree. Kylo was still inexperienced in the force that he wasn’t able to win.
Hmm, a non-Sith against his grandpa. Gramps wins.
Gramps does have a lot of experience!
Vader threw Palpatine into a reactor shaft, and Palpatine threw Kylo into a pit.
That’s true, a lot of good throws nowadays