Bass vs The Rest of Media
This one’s a bit of a no brainer. Bass has the Get Ability and can get all of their powers and destroy them all. Also Bass is the strongest being in media and can take anyone down in an instant. So the Rest of Media is pretty big and stuff, but Quality>Quantity. Bass pwns this match with ease and shows why he’s the best. I tried to add in as many pictures of powerful universes as possible. If there’s a really big one that I missed, be sure to let me know. Bass is outnumbered by essentially infinity to 1, but he always finds a way. Bass wins.
you sir are an idiot, bass cannot use his get ability forever, there are hundreds of people that can negate that ability, what about people that are stronger than him, what about people that are faster than him, you are over hyping him all too much, id name off a list off people that could but it would be way to long to post.
He doesn’t need to use his Get Ability forever. Bass is too powerful and he’s too skilled. Bass is the greatest….there is!
give me his absolute best feat.
I’d say that this is his best feat since this is how we first realized that Bass was invincible.
His abilities kept increasing from this point.
Are you for serious?
All this time I assumed Bass must have done something truly amazing on-screen/panel to earn this glowing blog portrayal. And now, when asked to show his greatest feat, you show us this? The “weapon shatters, enemy dashed past and destroyed it really fast” has been seen for many, MANY other characters so far. It’s almost a recurring theme of action manga/anime. There is nothing, NOTHING here to suggest he’s even all that notable outside his own series. Kamina-shades guy claims he’s lightspeed with no real backup, but even if he were…
But on top of that, as if realising this scene in itself doesn’t prove he’s all-powerful, you remind us that he gets more power boosts after this. This would be a perfectly logical argument were it not for your argument, repeated ad nauseum in every battle involving One Above All and the like, that ONLY SHOWN FEATS COUNT. Ergo, anything after this taken from claims or assumptions, whether true or not in-universe, is unable to take effect on this blog. You cannot pick and choose who to apply the rules to!
(Well, you CAN, it’s your blog so I guess you can write what you want. But I digress)
I guess what I’m trying to say was that with that previous guy’s comment I was kind of looking forward to seeing a feat that could justify anyone getting the title of “Strongest being in all media”, and now I’m disappointed 😦
Seriously, this is Bass’ ultimate feat!
Now, there is a difference between unseen power boosts and seen ones. We see Bass improve throughout the series so they are shown feats. He doesn’t bust a universe on screen or anything, but that’s okay. As I’ve stated in the past, it’s okay not to do something officially when you can do it. Goku never busted a solar system, but I know that he’s basically a universe/reality buster based off of his true power and the beams that we see him fire. Likewise, I consider Yusuke Urameshi to be a planet buster and Toriko to basically be lightspeed.
For the One Above All…he’s all hype. If he were to shoot a single energy blast, I would gain a lot of respect. The fact that the Tribunal says that TOAA is stronger is not a valid feat. It’s just a completely different situation from Bass. We see Bass improve so we can power scale accordingly. His speed is basically absolute.
It is disappointing that Bass didn’t have a more impressive looking feat to display, but that feat is a lot better than it looks. Remember, this was at his weakest. Imagine if Naruto or Bleach had started out with the main character pulling these feats off. It’d be pretty insane right? That’s how insanely powerful Bass is! (I’m not counting his origin story side chapter btw…) I still recommend checking out the manga to see just how skilled Bass is. He’s leagues ahead of all other fighters. (I agree that Kamina isn’t light speed in his base form. Not even supersonic…)
your kidding me, right? if not than wow you just proved your self to be the most incompetent most unrational debater i ever met, there are hundreds if not thousands of fictional characters that can break weapons and travel faster than light, even the breaking the black hole thing was more impressive than this.
If I said that I was kidding you…would it make this a little more believable? 😛 *irrational*
In all seriousness that I can muster, this isn’t your average FTL feat. This was his starting feat and he only went up from there. How many characters have a starting feat of lightspeedness? Not many. There are no characters who are quite as fast as Bass. I agree that the black hole was impressive as well though and Bass has so many epic feats that it can be hard to choose between them. No other character can pull off the stunts that Bass does in the series.
>Fighting Overpowering Megaman and Protoman with ease
>Defeating 100 opponents in .02 seconds
>Overpowering Megaman Hubstyle Mode
>Defeating the legendary CyBeast in a single hit
>Defeating the legendary Devil Virus in a single hit. Said virus defeated the complete army of Netopia along with Colonel, Protoman, Megaman, etc
>Broke a Black Hole
>Continued to get power up after power up in the series
What was that about Kamina? I never said he was lightspeed or anything. I was talking about that guy in the Megaman strip, the one with the shades (somewhat like Kamina’s. I guess in retrospect
Anyway, I think I understand what you’re trying to say here. If a claim is made about a character and that character has also shown similar abilities before it’s reasonable to assume they can do so. You extend that to characters from other series who look to be similarly fast or powerful and assume the given values. However, even assuming that is so
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Anyway, even if that were so and everything you have said about Bass is true, he would be no match for all the forces of all other works of fiction put together since power, speed and durability can only get you so far. There are powers that can bypass speed and power altogether, reality alteration, mind powers, power copiers, illusions, characters immune to power copying, abstract powers, and others with all the powers I’ve seen quoted for Bass and more. Bass cannot be assumed to be immune to these things without some kind of proof.
Oh, I thought you actually meant Kamina. The shades guy is Bly and he’s known to be light speed because all of the fighters in that series are technically made up of light speeds so they should be lightspeed. It can be argued that this only applies to their flight speed, but we do see Megaman and other villains casually fly to space in an instant and then back to Earth, which is why it’s really accepted.
Yes, like for a good example. Frieza could planet bust and he was very fast. We never see Cell blow up a planet, but we can definitely be assured that he can since he’s from the same series and he’s much stronger. Now, if Cell had just stood there for the whole series and everyone commented on his insane power level, then he would be powerless on the blog. He has to do Something at the very least to be considered for that power. A quick display or power or speed would be sufficient to consider him as a top tier fighter.
Bass doesn’t really need to be immune to most of those since his speed will compensate. As soon as the match starts, Bass can blow up the planet. Let’s be generous and say that 30% of media survive that initial attack. (Imagining that they could all fit on a planet of course and that the shockwaves would decimate the weaker starships) Bass could use his speed to just wipe everyone out. I really don’t think that there are any fighters faster than Bass. I don’t really believe in telepathy (being effective anyway) and strength of will should be enough to overcome the illusions. Abstracts and Reality Warping won’t deter Bass and he won’t need to copy abilities from almost any of the fighters. The Get Ability would be able to get through the immunity though since it’s more of an effect than a scanner. Bypassing speed and power is essentially impossible though unless you mean through more reality warping or time stop. Time stop isn’t really valid and reality warping has never really been useful for combat imo. It would be a fun fight, but I would still take Bass to win the round. His immunity to projectiles and super speed should be enough.
lets see he contained a black hole in his hand
he splits a moon in half
he escaped a double black hole yeah those feats are better than bass’s
Those are good feats, but they are no match for Bass. Bass could do all of that I’m sure. He didn’t show it though so we don’t have to debate that. Either way, nothing would stop Superman from just being speedblitzed to oblivion by Bass
you know what you are obviously to much of a fan boy to see that Bass is VERY beatable.
I’m definitely a huge Bass fan 😀 I’m not sure about the term fanboy though. I’ve never cared for it. Bass is unbeatable though.
Meh, these feats are only a FRACTION of what Superman is capable of. Don’t forget how he destroyed a solar system by sneezing 🙂
I do love that feat, but Bass shook the entire planet just by powering up. I don’t see how he doesn’t wreck Superman if they fight. Would this ever happen to Bass?
(Start at 2:18 and then watch as Superman gets destroyed by mere mortals)
You’re in idiot if you believe he is unbeatable, Gemini saga has destroyed entire galaxies, bass has never destroyed something of that magnitude.
He doesn’t need too….
And why woudn’t he?
His speed is his greatest strength. Goku never blew up a planet, but we know that he could. Can Bass destroy a Galaxy? Of course, but we have no proof so we don’t need it anyway. He can destroy Gemini Saga before he even knows what hit him. Think of the Shirou vs Gilgamesh fight on the bridge or Luffy vs Bellamy. That would essentially be how the fight would go down.
Really because we know how powerful goku is at base and we know how much his super saiyan forms multiply his power, while we know nothing of the sort for bass and from there, we cant determine his power which would make it impossible to determine who he should fight and if he would win
Which is why I’m saying that we don’t need to care about Bass’ power anyway. His speed is enough to easily win any fight.
As the scan that you shown me he can only travel light speed, now as i say again, we dont know the mulipliers of his forms therefor we can not calculate his fastest possible speed, so therefor we can only assume he can go lightspeed, and there are hundreds of characters that can travel faster than light
We can easily power scale his speed. A lot of the new series like to add exactly how much stronger a form makes a character and all, but most older series didn’t bother with that either. It’s all about eyeballing the scans and determining how much stronger the new character is. That’s how we debated back in my day. He is massively FTL through power scaling and he is easily the fastest being in all of media. Just think of it like a Scrambled Egg Sandwich. The bread and the eggs taste great, but they are lousy when put together. (If it is sliced bread)
Conidering that i like egg sandwiches escpeccialy with mayo on it i consider that a bad example, provide me scans of such an occurence and see if what you say is true.
Scans of what occurence? The big jump in speed or the whole eyeballing the scans? Because I eyeball scans all the time…it’s just something that you do. Mayo with an Egg Sandwich? That sounds decent, but only on a roll. I can deal with eggs on my sliced bread.
you know what just show me his greatest feat of speed
I’m pretty sure we’ve been over this. The whole shattering the sword thing….I guess I can provide two alternate feats instead.
Blowing up an airplane and the pilot can barely react
Fast enough to notice the defense program. (And would have dodged if not for Megaman getting in the way and distracting him)
1.Not an impressive feat whatsoever that is a fighter jet so i would say around the sound barrier and plus he was traveling around the same speed, plus that was a human reaction time, not impressive either.
2 the only time i saw megaman in that entire page was in the second box and to what i saw he didnt say or do anything what so ever to distract Bass, so the defense program is faster than him
Your link is always intriguing, but I have to delete it for the blog’s sake 😉
1. Human Reaction time can be decent sometimes. Remember Krillin? It’s an amazing feat when you consider the FTL one.
2. Megaman getting caught by the net was the distraction. The villains knew that it was the only way to catch Bass unaware. These guys are skilled…but Bass is still better. Nothing is faster than Bass…nothing! Let’s face it, Bass is invincible at this point and his feats speak for themselves.
Oh wow he got grabbed , what a feat, seriously that doesnt show me anything, he just got grabbed
I just tagged that scan on for the lulz. It wasn’t meant to be a feat
Bass gets vaporised.
I gotta disagree there!
Too bad. The rest of the media = omnipotents like TOAA, Eru Iluvatar (he showed the ability to sink continents easily with a thought so boom, there’s your feat and Bass is vaporised easily), The Presence etc.
Then you have powerhouses like the Living Tribunal, Superman etc. Bass dies and any logical person would admit it. Also if he can travel light speed, how is he going to react to God Emperor of Mankind who can stop time upon WILL before emperor-slapping him through multiple planets and supernova beaming him? Admit it Bass loses HARD.
Eru sounds tough, but he would still be too slow. Bass is just too fast since he’s basically the fastest in existence. Time stop is an ability that doesn’t do a whole lot on the blog due to its nature. It would be more of a time slow, but Bass is too fast. I can’t admit it because Bass is simply too good. He has the Earthbreaker and Darkness Overload. That isn’t even counting his Hubstyle abilities!
And yes Bass will get vaporised. All those attacks heading for him from every direction from EVERY character in the media will overkill him. There are like thousands of characters in media and more are still being made. Bass gets swamped.
Over 90% of the characters in media are too slow anyway and thousands of them will just die when Bass nukes the planet. He can use a hit and run strategy to wear the enemies down or he can just use the Get Ability and power his way through. Sheer numbers can’t stop him!
Unfortunately for you, Eru is omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent since he is THE GOD of his universe aka. Similar to the Catholic God. He was there to sink the continents and he knew what was happening around the world because he was all over the world too. Bass gets godstomped by Eru. Also even the Shrike can rip Bass to shreds and infect him with Merlin’s sickness to prevent resurrection of any sort given how Merlin’s sickness moves Bass back in time to the point before he even existed so basically Bass is removed from existence. Also the Shrike makes time relative to itself to the point lasers appear frozen in the air when it moves. Bass gets stomped so hard. Rand’ Al Thor can also keep up with Bass and hit Bass with Balefire which basically removes him from time and existence thus anything Bass has done would be undone. Just say if Bass destroyed a city and then Rand’Al Thor hit him with Balefire, Bass would be erased and the city would be as it was before Bass attacked it. Plenty more could make him bite the dust. Lucifer from SN could click his fingers and explode Bass to millions of tiny pieces.
I’ve read the first book of that set. T’was pretty good 🙂
The problem with being everywhere on the world is that you’s susceptible to all attacks. Bass could punch the ground and it would hurt Eru since he is everywhere. The Shrike isn’t fast enough to land a hit on Bass so he would be terminated like Rand. Rand is all right, but he’s overhyped. He’s essentially an adult form of Harry Potter whose spells happen to be 50X stronger. (Although, Harry does have an insta kill spell so it doesn’t get much stronger than that) Lucifer wouldn’t be able to stand up to a Darkness Overload either so I wouldn’t count on him. Bass is just too powerful and that’s why he’s at the top of the blog ranks.
Uh no…The Shrike is made out of blades and techno stuff hence why going close combat with it is a very BAD idea. Also Bass is very ordinary so stop trying to hype him and make him seem special. Darkness overload won’t do crap to Lucifer who’s at least a universal level threat in SN. Lucifer exploded a damn angel by clicking his fingers and killed a pantheon of pagan gods in a matter of seconds. Satan> Some cyborg made by Dr. Wily.
Bass would break the blades and corrupt the tech. See, this is why Bass is underrated. We don’t typically consider some of his abilities, which are actually huge game changers. Wily didn’t build Bass so I’m going to have to stop you there. You’re thinking of classic Bass, which is an entirely different animal. Lucifer taking out an angel should be impressive, but it depends on how tough they are in the Supernatural world. Definitely weaker than RL so we need to power scale them accurately. Either way, Bass could just punch Lucifer across the horizon and into the sun. He couldn’t stand the heat.
Yeah…Like Michael the Archangel didn’t try to do that to Lucifer (sarcasm) but Lucifer shrugged it off for only archangel Blades and the Christian God can harm him and kill him. Whats to stop Lucifer from clicking his fingers or thinking it and Bass goes boom? Don’t give me the speedblitz bullcrap because Bass is not faster than thought. Also chaos emerald users can create universes in a matter of seconds, hence why through Plot hax and game mechanics, the super hedgehogs were able to defeat Solaris (defeat and stop him for a certain period of time). I’d like to see Bass survive timeline destruction and dimension level destruction. No proof of him surviving something of that magnitude? I want proof not excuses. Until Bass survives a dimension devouring attack then he loses. END OF STORY.
Whoa there….Lucifer is overrated, at least compared to Bass. Bass is too fast and he can’t be willed out of existence. The hedgehogs defeated Solaris legitamitely..just like what Bass would due to the all powerful being. Let’s face it, Bass just doesn’t go down. I’ve given both proof and excuses in the past. Bass is much faster than thought by the way. Just look at the scans.
*Facepalm* Hence why Eru is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent. You cannot harm him due to his infinite power. He intended the everything that happened in LOTR. Morgoth’s betrayal was actually part of Eru’s plan as well! Also the Shrike is FASTER than light given its easy time manipulation and how it can simply travel back to the past and eliminate Bass before he could be fully built. No use trying to reason with a fanboy like you though. You think Bass can beat omnipotents.
Eru may have planned everything, which shows how intelligent he is, but he won’t be able to stop Bass. To save face, he can plan his defeat, but that’s about all that he can do. Shrike may be FTL, but Bass is the fastest FTL fighter that I’ve ever seen. He can’t go back in time to stop Bass. As soon as the fight starts, Bass will wrestle him to the ground and defeat him before he can leave. Either way, I don’t count time travelling to before the match since that wouldn’t be fair to guys like Kirk or Indiana Jones.
Eru is equivalent to the Abrahamic God in LOTR so no Bass gets erased from existence. Also Bass attempting to wrestle the SHRIKE out of all the THINGS? Thats instant suicide right there. You can ask the last person what happened when they tried to wrestle the Shrike. Oh thats right! They got chopped up to millions of tiny pieces and each piece was stuck on the Shrike’s tree. Looks like that Hyperion guy’s nuke tanking armor didn’t help him against the Shrike’s blades. Bass is going to get sliced up by the Shrike if he tries either close combat or long range because he’s too slow for the Shrike. Bass is actually one of the least strongest beings in media as agreed by many other proper battle sites such as spacebattles, comicvine etc. But oh no a fanboy like you thinks he’s better than an omnipotent god because you’re that delusional. At least I know when my favorite character’s beat but you don’t because once again you’re a delusional fanboy like those people who think Voldemort can beat Galactus.
I don’t know about that. You can’t erase someone like Bass from existence without a fight. As for wrestling the Shrike, I think that Bass can pull it off. He’s not your average warrior and he’s much faster than Hyperion. Shrike’s blades wouldn’t catch Bass and Bass definitely has the overwhelming edge in speed here. I never cared for the term fanboy, but I am a huge fan of Bass. Voldemort can’t beat Galactus, but Superman could so it’s a moot point.
How would you react if the creator of Megaman told you Bass was actually one of the weakest characters in fiction hmmm?
I’d tell him that he was wrong…in a polite way of course.
Too bad he’s the creator of the franchise so if he’s like ‘lolnope Bass is weaker than Superman’ then he MEANS it. Most creators would like to think their characters are more powerful than other characters and will readily admit that they are beaten if they think so.
He means it, but I choose not to believe it. Even if the creator says it, then it’s just hype or reverse hype. He’ll have to show me through a comic that Bass is weaker and then say “No Johns” before I can think of an excuse. It’s tough to do this, which is why it’s so rare.
He could easily say, “Look you’ve overestimated Bass as a fan, he is not truly light speed and that quote was in the manga just as a bluff or as a build up for excitement. His darkness overload cannot even destroy a continent and again its usage was mainly for entertainment purposes and show.” Boom, checkmate you lose.
I would counter with “The scans speak for themselves sir. You didn’t realize this as you were writing the series, but Bass is actually the strongest character ever. You can’t downplay feats like the Darkness Overload and the bluff has been turned real thanks to the fans” I can never lose in a debate about Bass’ feats!
A single Dragonite should be sufficient enough to take out Bass. Spam agility, draco meteor, dragon rush etc. and Bass gets overwhelmed.
Dragonite could try, but then he would realize that he had been attacking Bass’ after image for a while and he would be pretty discouraged. Bass is simply too powerful and he proves this on a regular basis!
I know this post is very long, but please read at least the majority of it, as I spent a lot of time into this.
I can name so many characters that could beat Bass… It’s ridiculous that you think they could not kill Bass all teamed against him. I know from looking at comments that you have not heard of most of these but some you have. Please reconsider your *coughcompletelydilusionalcough* thinking and look at these characters. Some of these have been mentioned before to you, some of the, haven’t.
Examples with abilities listed below:
Enhanced physical stats due to being a Stand User, his Stand Gold Experience can turn inanimate objects into living beings that he can control, anyone who attacks these creatures has the damage reflected back to them (Karma manipulation), if it hits a human it accelerates their perceptions beyond the ability of their bodies to keep up, thus making them vulnerable, can also be used to regenerate himself and heal others. Later gains the upgraded version of the stand, Gold Experience Requiem; which has its own independent will and will automatically nullify all attacks by setting the state of them to 0, including the attacker’s will. If an enemy is killed by Gold Experience Requiem, they will continuously experience death over and over again for all eternity; basically can manipulate time, space, reality, karma, and death/life of its victims.
-Gold Experience Requiem: His evolved and ridiculously more powerful stand that has it’s own independent will. It’s able to react automatically to threats even when time is erased and sets all attacks and the opponents willpower back to zero, and can trap a person into facing a series of death over and over again for eternity. It can basically manipulate time, space, reality, and death/life of its victims. This is considered to be one of the most broken abilities in fiction. It could clearly kill Bass as all attacks Bass could ever throw at him would be negated, and all Giorno Giovanna would need to do is trap Bass, and his Get Ability wouldn’t work since he is trapped into facing his death over and over infinitely.
Ultimecia can manifest and give life to subconscious thoughts and inanimate objects. This includes giving life to Griever; Ultimecia manifests Griever from Squall’s subconscious mind, having found Griever to be Squall’s conception of the most powerful force that could exist, and brings him to life for battle against Squall himself.
Ultimecia uses her ability to compress time to become omnipotent through the absorption of all time, space, and existence. She can invade and control an individual’s body and mind both internally and externally, and through the use of Junction Machine Ellone utilize this ability throughout different eras. Ultimecia can reach into a person’s mind to steal or give life to thoughts, knowledge, and magic. Her ability to manipulate objects and matter has also led to some interesting junction forms. Pretty self explanatory how this would beat Bass.
Elder God DemonBane
Elder God Demonbane withstood some of the most powerful attacks from the Great Old Ones and Outer Gods (beings who possessed the power to wipe out entire multiverses at once) without any indication of being harmed. It also fought against the entire Court of Azathoth and was unable to be destroyed. Consequently, Elder God Demonbane is nigh impossible to destroy, but this is in part due to its abstract nature as a being that can bend, reshape, and recreate reality according to its own will.
Elder God DemonBane maintains all of the abilites of Demonbane and Mars Demonbane. Possesses the ability of reality warping, dimension traveling and teleportation. Is able to express complete control over time and space (it can even exist outside of these realms). Immune to everything from all beings except for Azathoth (the only other being more powerful than Elder God Demonbane). If in possession of the Shining Trapezohedron, (Has been before so it counts on the blog) Elder God Demonbane can rewrite reality completely and all of its rules and universal constants. It can also summon infinite copies of itself and different versions of itself as well. (The functions of these copies can also be assigned/rewritten. For instance, if Elder God Demonbane were battling against what we’ll call “Enemy A”, it could very well summon a Demonbane that is quite literally “Anti-Enemy A, a.k.a. Anti Bass.
Anti Bass + Elder God + all Media v.s. Bass.
The Amalgam brothers (Either one)
Considering that the Brothers are the sum total of everything in the Marvel universe and the rest of the multiverse, they are incalculably powerful, and even such cosmic entities such as Eternity are like insects to them. The Living Tribunal, the most powerful being known in the Marvel Universe, was barely able to stall them, and was beneath their notice. Since both brothers are everything in every multiverse combined, they could not be killed, or even harmed from anything in fiction that attacked it, for they would quite literally be attacking an evolved version of themselves, maintaining all abilities in the process. The only known way to “kill” or destroy one is if the brothers fought each other. Much like matter and anti-matter, both would cancel each other out and disappear.
Luckyman is the luckiest superhero in the universe. His attacks are all fairly weak, but they always do massive damage in some form because he’s incredibly lucky. If he pulls a “Big luck” or “Eternal luck” card, there’s simply nothing anyone can do to defeat him. Bass would try to use the Get Ability, but his systems would malfunction and delete the program just as he gets hit by LuckyMan. Kenshiro would attempt the Musou Tensei, only to suffer from diabetes and then die from scurvy because he doesn’t eat vegetables. Goku would try to power up in Super Saiyan, only to die from a heart attack from training too much. Bass would try to kill LuckyMan, but then accidentally delete the Get ability and destroy himself. You don’t have to believe me—the Japanese themselves have anointed Luckyman the most powerful being in anime in forums like 2Channel and other message boards. Since they created all of these guys, we should take their word for it, don’t you think?
Light Yagami has his Death Note, a formidable weapon. When he writes the name of someone/something, they will die in 40 seconds. He is the smartest human I have ever seen in any Manga/Anime. Since the Death Note is connected with the Shinigami, and they are Gods of death, anyone who was killed with the Death Note would consequently be sent to Heaven or Hell (Even Bass because Ryuk and Rem both said that the person who uses the Death Note will go to neither Heaven nor Hell, obviously implying that there is a Heaven/Hell.)
Kuma is a character from the popular franchise One Piece. Kuma is the only character I have listed so far that could not counter or disable the get ability. However, if he was teamed with the entire u/m/x/o/mdd-verse then he could do a lot. This is meant to be out together with another character seen below, which you have been commented on multiple times and are familiar the name. Now, what Kuma can do is he has the Devil Fruit ability, and he’s so powerful that he can teleport anyone/thing to any place in space. He can manipulate space, a very powerful ability. Suppose the matchup was Bass v.s. Superman. Now, he can (By your opinion) kill Superman. But, with Kuma’s ability he could transfer all the pain that Superman is feeling into Bass. An argument would be that he’s a robot therefore he doesn’t feel pain, but I’ve read all of NT Warrior. Netnavi’s clearly can feel emotions. Do you really think when Laser-Man and Dark MegaMan threw MegaMan to the ground and smashed him bruised, he didn’t feel anything? No, obviously he did. Even if by some point he didn’t, Bass would feel an enormous amount of damage. You see, for whoever Bass attacks, (Even Kuma himself) Kuma could simply redirect the attack at him. He is very fast and can teleport others to safety while reflecting off and absorbing pain and transferring it to Bass. Literally, if Bass hurled the Sun at him, he could simply “push” or deflect it right back at Bass. He is THE best healer and with all these characters on his side, there’s no way he could be defeated.
Dark Schnieder is from the popular franchinse Bastard!!! and stars as the main character, as well as the most powerful wizard in the series. He can use a technique that prevents any revival from the dead, including the Get Ability. Without this ability, Bass could be destroyed easily, since all of Media contains many people that are above him in terms of raw power and agility. The Get Ability was the only argument you had that could keep him alive, but since DS can negate this power, this allows for an easy victory for RAM( Rest of All Media).
Now this should probably go in one of the TOAA fights, since you have almost ridiculed him, and you have so many posts saying that he would lose to ridiculous people. Fans of the Marvel universe know that he is God for Marvel. So to have him as most losses for a male character, the literal GOD of Marvel, had got to make some of them mad. And when I say God, not just me thinks this, but even Marvel themselves have named him God. If you look at the TOAA Marvel Wikia page, under Aliases, it says God. Anyway, even if he didn’t have any recorded feats, there is still no reason to do this. Just remove him from the blog if according to you he’s just some old man. We don’t need to see the latest TOAA v.s. (Insert character here) if you’re just going to make him lose. I don’t see the point in this, and it’s just angering fans. Anyway, now I can get onto explaining how he could easily defeat Bass. For every character Bass killed, TOAA could simply revive them. He has revived the Thing in Fantastic Four, proof that he can do this. He was in Heaven at the time, and after Aunt May’s death, TOAA is on Earth. This proves that he can not only teleport. But teleport or travel into different dimensions. If Bass were to ever try to hit TOAA, he could use his interdimentional travel to get away. In NT Warrior, where you claim 90% of Bass’s feats are, (And I have read ALL of it) Bass never travels to different dimensions, much less Marvel Heaven, so he couldn’t follow TOAA there. If all of Media’s characters could never die, this basically assures that they would destroy Bass.
Nova is not a very well known superhero, but he is part of a superhero police force in the Marvel Universe. If you read the Manga (NT Warrior), energy blasts and beams account for probably a good 80-90% of Bass’s attacks. Well, Nova has the ability to absorb any form of energy projection, no matter how big, and redirect it or store it how he likes. This would handicap Bass to a point where the Z universe could take him for sure.
Now, one Q from Star Trek would be enough to annihilate Bass, for a variety of reasons.
The Q were a seemingly omnipotent and immortal species who inhabited the Q Continuum, possessing the ability of instantaneous matter-energy transformation and teleportation, as well as the ability of time travel. The Q had control over space, time, matter, and energy. In addition, the Q possesses an IQ of 2005.
With control over space, time matter and energy, you could literally do anything. A Q could make Bass.exe have no power, not be able to move, or be frozen in time forever. They could also simply reverse time until Bass ceased to exist, but you seem to have something against that on the blog, so I’ll let that one go. Even so, The Q are All knowing, and know everything in the multiverse, therefore knowing how to defeat Bass. There are many characters in fiction that know everything, therefore there are many characters that know how to defeat Bass. An entire planet of Q’s plus the rest of the people I mentioned plus the rest of fiction?
All these characters teaming up, and simultaneously attacking Bass in a coordinated fashion? Bass wouldn’t stand a chance. There are several Omnipotent and Omnipresent beings in Media, (The Presence, TOAA, Q) but you would probably say you “don’t believe” in those characters or something, so I will try not to put those arguments into my debate, either. I mean, the levels of fanboy can come and go, but think about this for a second. You are claiming that something in fiction is more powerful than the entire Marvel universe, the entire D.C. universe, the entire DBZ universe, the entire Bleach universe, the entire Naruto universe, the entire One Piece universe, the entire SAO universe, the entire Mario universe, the entire Halo, CoD, Battlefield, Counter Strike and Modern Warfare universe, the entire Aot universe, the entire Pokemon universe (Red, Green, Blue, Yellow, Gold & Silver, Crystal, Ruby & Sapphire, FireRed and Leaf Green, Emerald, Diamond and Pearl, Platinum, HeartGold & SoulSilver, Black and White, Black and white 2, X and Y, and Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire.), Bass’s OWN universe, the entire Psychopass universe, the entire Medaka Box universe, the entire Tokyo Ghoul universe, the entire Blue Exorcist universe, the entire Neon Genesis Evangelion universe, the entire Hellsing universe, the entire Elfen Lied universe, the entire Full Metal Alchemist universe, the entire K universe, the entire Magi universe, the entire Digimon universe, the entire Pokemon (Anime) universe, the entire Cowboy Bebop universe, the entire Durara universe, the entire Bastard!!! universe, the entire Btooom! universe, the entire Seraph of the End universe, the entire Death Note universe,the entire LOTR universe, the entire Harry Potter universe, the entire Narnia universe, the entire Elder Scrolls universe, the entire League of Legends universe, the entire World of Warcraft universe, the entire Diablo universe, the entire Warcraft universe, the entire Civilization universe, the entire Faster than Light universe, the entire Grand Theft Auto universe, the entire Left 4 Dead universe, the entire Dead Space universe, the entire Team Fortress universe, the entire Half Life universe, the entire Portal universe, the entire Boarderlands universe, the entire Rayman Legends universe, the entire Bioshock universe, the entire Xcom universe, the entire Super Smash Bros universe, the entire real universe, (Times about a billion, since there are so many novels, video games, TV shows, and movies that take place in the real world), the entire Mortal Combat universe, the entire Street Fighter universe, the entire Tekken universe, the entire Capcom universe, the entire Pixar universe, (The Incredibles, the Incredibles 2, Brave, Wall-E, Monsters Inc, and Monsters Inc University (The prequel)), the entire Final Fantasy universe, (Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy 2, Final Fantasy 3, Final Fantasy 4, Final Fantasy 5, Final Fantasy 6, Final Fantasy 7, Final Fantasy 8, Final Fantasy 9, Final Fantasy 10, Final Fantasy 11, (MMO) Final Fantasy 12, Final Fantasy 13, Final Fantasy 14 (MMO), Final Fantasy 15), The entire Kingdom Hearts universe, the entire Last of Us universe, the entire Far-Cry universe, the entire Resident Evil universe, and so so so much more, combined, facing one enemy. I could go on, but my point is just think about how ridiculous this is. You are saying that Bass wins against all of Media, plenty of downright invincible characters, plenty of gods, plenty of omnipresent, omnipotent, characters, plenty of characters who know everything in the universe, plenty who can negate Bass’s ability, plenty who could trap him, and plenty who are better than him in every shape, way, or form. For you, who doesn’t even know half a percent of all media, to say that one character you happened to stumble across is better than all the rest that you don’t know, is, in my opinion, one of the most ignorant things a person can do.
I would argue that all the guys you listed could beat Bass alone (except Light, since the Death Note only works on humans), let alone all of them plus everyone I argued for just previously (including Giorno again) but DReager will no doubt disagree. By his logic, Bass arbitrarily has the strongest base statistics in any series because one guy once said he was faster than light and apparently when you get a new form literally everything scales proportionally, and any other ability can apparently be negated by sheer power. Plus all cases in his own series were Bass was beaten are dismissed as “plot hax”. Seriously, when it comes to Bass, this guy cannot be reasoned with
@Adrogoz To counter your point, let me explain why that’s not true. I have read all the DN Manga and most of the Anime, and it’s one of my favorite mangas of all time. Now, let’s see what we know here:
Shinigami are the gods of Death.
They can kill humans, but not themselves.
There is a heaven and hell in this universe.
Since Shinigami are the gods of death, and near all fictional universes follow the laws of death, don’t you think it would be fair to conclude that they don’t have different Laws regarding who can kill them, if they all follow the principle that the live, and die, regardless of whether they know the Shinigami exist or not? Especially if they are in the DN universe?
Anyway, on a more casual note, I totally agree that DReager1 is either a very delusional person, or a troll. There is no third alternative. Like, just look at what these guys on Factpile did:
I mean, DReager is one of those people on the Internet that you’ve ever heard of, or hate. Again, no third option.
I mean, you can read my post on “Bass, the Strongest Being in All Media” basically saying what you just said. I’m waiting for DReager to reply, but he’ll probably use the same flawed argument for half of the things I mentioned, and ignore the rest.
I haven’t posted here for a while, but I remember you, Adrogoz. You had your own blog, didn’t you? Yeah, I went to it before.
@DReager1: You haven’t replied to my comment. 😒😒
@??? I’m working on it. It was a nice and long comment so I want my response to be appropriately detailed with my epic comebacks. I shall have my reply up today though! 😎
I think I should clarify at least one thing here, ???. DReager’s logic is seriously warped in places, and his opinions on these matters are often far from accurate, but I don’t “hate” him. Actually, I respect him and his blog. Sometimes the reasoning for who wins a fight comes down to the silliest reasons, but this guy puts out, what, five fights a day?! And while it seems impossible to get anywhere in suggesting that perhaps his conclusion on a fight is insane, he will explain his nonsense in as friendly and tolerant a manner as possible. People insult him, but NEVER ONCE have I seen him insult them back. If he wasn’t so stubborn and illogical, I believe DReager COULD make the actual “ultimate fighting blog”, because he has the dedication and patience needed to do so. (Now all he’s missing is the common sense).
So no, Bass couldn’t beat everyone in every other story working together. To even suggest such a thing is ridiculous. Even assuming he has the highly-exagerated power set DReager accepts as fact and all the powers that DReager “doesn’t believe in” just fail to work, nobody could pull that fight off. The full population of all the stories ever told would be beyond anyone’s comprehension. But if DReager wants to believe it, I say he can go right ahead. Just don’t expect anyone else to share this theory
All right, let’s look at why Bass can beat everyone. Giorno would need to trap Bass to start the cycle and that isn’t happening. Remember, Bass is massively FTL as we found out the FTL thing before he even got any of his super forms. They all stack so he is untouchable. The Stand has its limits and would eventually break as it simply couldn’t nullify all of Bass’ immense power. After that, Giorno would be easy pickings for Bass.
Ultimecia gets speedblized. The big weakness in being omnipotent is that the character has gotten as strong as he/she will ever be. No improving means that Bass will always have the edge. The Demonbane guy is tough to destroy, but that’s really all that he’s got going for him. A Dark Arm Blade would take him out of the picture. The Amalgram Brothers…I’ve actually seen those guys and they are exceptionally weak. A punch or two from Bass can take them out. Luckyman is very lucky, so lucky that he will trip and knock himself out to avoid fighting with Bass 😎
For Light Yagami, Bass just powers up and the country will explode instantly, maybe even the world. No time to use the DN. Kuma? That guy took a while to beat lightweights (I use that term relatively speaking. They are still strong in their own right as they>>>Superman for me) like the Strawhats so I don’t see how he can keep up with Bass. Even with the rest of the multiverse. Dark Schneider stops Bass from coming back from the dead, but that’s not really the Get Ability. It simply improves Bass as he fights with the added bonus of also being immortal. Bass still outranks him in speed so he would take the guy down and break his Dispel Bound set of barriers before crushing him with an Earthbreaker.
Nova? That guy got mind controlled and lost to Captain (The Man) America. Granted, the Captain temporarily got Nova powers, but Bass would still speedblitz and win with a hit. Q is essentially TOAA level. He knows all, but can’t fight for chocolate beans.
I like how you threw Wall E in there. Now, I realize that Bass is outnumbered trillions to 1. Practically infinity to 1 if you think about it. That being said, Bass can wipe out the solar system in a quick hit which would take out a few billion and his speed will allow him to take out thousands of opponents in a second. Bass never gets tired thanks to the Get Ability. It would take a while, maybe even years to find and destroy every character in media, but he could do it. Also, the characters aren’t (all) machines. Even if they team up, they would be blasting each other a lot of the time and at least 90% of all media would die instantly against Bass. The few thousand/billion fighters who could stand up to Bass would systematically be taken care of. I do agree that this is the boldest thing that I’ve ever said, but it needs to be said. I do think that Bass can take out all of media. I never said that he could do it in a day or with a single attack. But eventually…he will have defeated them all. It’s a battle that would last for an eternity, but there is no stopping Bass. At most, you can delay him…but that’s about it.
What is it with you and Bass? He’s too stupidly outnumbered to win!
Bass may be outnumbered, but he’s never outgunned!
If Bass uses data, then Apocalymon from Digimon can just go KABOOM like in Now Apocalymon and delete all data. Or Ken could revert to Digimon Kaiser and harness all data so Bass can’t absorb anything. Giratina could trap Bass in his Alternate Dimension, like Apocalymon and Vadermon can, then they could just leave. (Bass then starves/runs out of charge/breaks down). Or they could use Timoxy Bubuthenol on him. Lightspeed? Use tachyons. They go faster than light. They should be able to defeat Bass.
Digimon Kaiser was tough and there are some pretty good FTL fighters, but I’d say that Bass is still too powerful for that. He can outspeed any other fighter no matter how quick they are. Bass can shatter black holes so dimensions shouldn’t be too much of an issue for him. Even without absorbing him, Bass has physical capabilities that put most other fighters to shame!
This reminds me of God vs all of God’s creations…
It makes for an interesting debate, that’s for sure. Bass is strong, but he’s just one man…what can he hope to do?
Bass could never beat her: http://www.deviantart.com/art/Aryll-138172268
Perhaps not, but he wouldn’t go down without a fight!
True. The last time God fought the Earthlings, the planet got flooded…
Or Aryll could cutesy stare him into surrender. Whew. Saved so much trouble.
That’s true, just avoided galactic destruction!
what about the kamen rider universe? it has some hax like Gaim who can do anything with the forbidden fruit. And what about Decade? he has all of the showa riders’ power’s. And then there’s Drive who can move faster then who he’s fighting with his Slow down ability. AND then there’s black RX who has the abilitys of a god. sooo…. i don’t see how Bass.EXE could possibly win. just my opinion.
Kamen Rider verse is tough, but Bass has punched through a black hole before and he shakes the whole planet just by powering up. He could likely charge up a giant blast that would destroy the whole Kamen Rider verse with his Darkness Overload unless they were able to somehow block the blast.
he punched through a black hole? how? a black hole sucks in everything including light, so how did Bass.EXE bend the rules of physics?
He’s Bass. That’s what I’ve been trying to tell everyone, the rules of physics hold no sway over him!
CA supes has an adapt ability too. So does Fury from marvel. And certain versions of doomsday.
True, but they are simply not a match for Bass physically.
CA supes could. He held 52 universes. Also he’s the ultimate plot armor. He can’t lose. Bass isn’t even planet level is he?
And fury survived the destruction of a universe. Could Bass dish or take that kind of punishment?
Bass is definitely planetary level imo. Remember that he shook the whole planet just by powering up. Bass can take any kind of punishment thanks to his Get Ability.
That’s just not true.
CA supes would wreck him.
I think you are underestimating Bass quite a bit here though.
No your just over-estimating bass.
Maybe he’s planetary but he’s not universal.
And CA supes can take all punishment thanks to his adapt ability
And CA supes held 52 universes in his hand
CA supes can’t lose. He is literally PIS in a robot
Luckily PIS has its limits. CA Superman is strong, but he better hope that his durability is up to snuff since Bass would keep on hitting him over and over again until he’s gone for good.
Oh, and he gets speed blitzed by a BL’ed flash
Nah, Bass doesn’t get speedblitzed
His durability is infinite. He’s as durable as he needs to be so bass will be like a fly.
And it’s not like CA supes is the only guy there.
If flash has feats greater in speed than bass then yes he will
Nah, nothing’s infinite here. Trust me, every character has a limit that they reach in the end.
Do you know who CA supes is? Have you read the comics he’s been in?
He was meant to break that idea. He doesn’t start out infinite but he becomes strong enough to surpass that limit. He is the concept of a perfect hero basically.
Also that means bass isn’t infinite right?
CA Superman breaks records, but Bass breaks the rules. Granted, I’ve never read a comic where CA Superman got to appear. I’ve certainly heard about him over the years though. Bass isn’t infinite either, but he’s the closest thing to it. His speed and power are basically unimaginable which is the only reason why I would dare put him up against all of media at once.
Then what’s your evidence bass beats CA supes when he has feats and statements beyond him?
Bass is maybe 10 times FTL (generous)? CA supes is beyond the concept of speed itself.
Bass’ speed is also basically at conceptual level. It was never determined just how fast he is. His Get Ability will also let him copy CA Superman’s abilities and speeds which will simply make Bass even more powerful!
For a lot of characters there speed has never been measured. That doesn’t mean they fast.
So could Protege from marvel beat thoughtbot since he has a copy ability too?
Also how is he going to copy the powers of a higher dimensional entity? Has he ever done that before.
True, but the manga states that Bass is FTL during his first ever appearance. He didn’t get any slower after that, but got many big speed buffs. His speed is that intense! Bass only needs to copy the combat abilities not the meta part.
I’m sure there’s other cases in media similar to that.
Also here’s a question. How many times the speed of light would you rate bass?
So anyone with a copy ability can beat anyone?
That’s the thing, there’s no way to rate it. As far as I’m concerned Bass and Megaman are the 2 fastest beings in all of media. Goku would be third and after that it gets hazy. Copy abilities do have limits, but Bass’ natural physical abilities help him have an edge here.
So despite flash having feats greater than all three of them he’s not faster?
Doesn’t this blog use feats?
Also Bass is well below CA supes in everything. It’s not a bad thing though most people are
I do consider Flash to be the 2nd fastest comic book character of all time. I think Superman at his best is a little faster, but Flash’s speed feats are rather insane as well. Being able to time travel through speed is quite good. CA Superman is very impressive so I’ll grant you that.
Bass is not even universal
Why would you say that he isn’t?
No feats in that category.
@John cenna Well said sir. Bass is nowhere at that level.
What about Broly the Legendary Super Saiyan? He could speed blitz Bass.EXE so quickly you wouldn’t even see them fighting. Or, Broly would just blow up the universe they were fighting in. If things got TOO dicey, Broly has his Legendary Super Saiyan 3 and 4 forms to fall back on if the need presents itself.
Broly is fast, but I’d say that Bass is faster. Also, any energy blasts he tries to use will simply be reflected or absorbed by Bass. He’ll have to stick to hand to hand combat and Bass has the edge there.
What about Lord English?
He can wreck Bass quickly. And bass can’t beat him
I beg to differ, one good Darkness Overload and it’s lights out!
Lord English can only be killed via special methods. Darkness overload isn’t one of them.
Also don’t overate this darkness overload like it’s hyperversal or something. It’s never displayed a feat that’s universal.
Which means Godhead Pickle inspector could tank the attack while Lord English kills him.
Don’t overestimate Lord English either. The MS. Paint Adventures are classic and I’ve used the program for my sprite videos as well, but he’s not all that tough. I’d take Train Heartnet over English. English has a decent amount of durability, but nothing is absolute. He can still be taken down by any attack provided that it is strong enough. A Darkness Overload is like a Kamehameha, I can’t picture it not working.
Y’know DReager, sometimes I don’t have any clue how you come to the conclusions you come to. In what stretch of the imagination is Lord English “not that tough”?
I’ve just never been all that impressed with him. A akin him to a final boss in the Droon series or a Cthulhu from mythology. English is very tough for his universe and their normal weapons cannot hurt him, but beyond that he’s mostly just hype. He can tear reality and has a lot of time shenanigans, but he doesn’t have much in the way of good speed or endurance feats. I’ve seen nothing to suggest that he could survive a Railgun attack from Train or even keep up with his speed. As for the whole “destroying universes” part, I picture it in the same way that the Presence or Living Tribunal could. A wave of the hand or something like that, but not a tangible blast or feat that would be applicable. I think he is probably in the top 5 Homestuck characters, but I don’t think it would translate well to other series like Street Fighter or Marvel.
A hyperversal guy that Slaughters Dark Gods and frogs that contain Infinite universes as well as the fictional representation of the author isn’t tough? Well everyone has their own opinion.
Kamehameha’s aren’t that strong. I can think of so many people that could walk through a Kamehameha via durability feats.
The thing with LE is his durability is almost absolute. He can only be harmed by specific items meant to harm him. Unless Bass gets those items or he is an omnipotent God then he can’t kill him.
LE can kill Bass on the other hand. There’s also the hax LE has which he can’t answer too
Defeating the author is always cool so I’ll give English some cool points there. That being said, destroying infinite universes and such is where things go from cool feats to just plain wonky. It turns into a bit of a circle where after a while, those feats don’t really mean much anymore. The One Above All is a perfect example of this phenomenon. There are definitely a few characters who could go through a Kamehameha (One of them being Bass) but most other fighters would just yell “Good Game” as they get hit and are instantly obliterated.
See, limitations like that which are set by the universe just aren’t valid. It’ll be tough to destroy him for an average foe, but Bass isn’t your average fighter. All of his attacks are simply off the charts and I can’t imagine LE faring too well. Destroying Bass is super tough as well given that he has such great speed feats and also possesses a Get Ability.
Your the kind of person who likes on Pannel feats right? That’s why TOAA loses most battles,because we don’t see him do sh!t on panel so we can’t trust the hype right?
Well LE (On pannel might I add so it should be valid for you) With a ENGERY blast destroyed a dream bubble which are entire dimensions that exist beyond the scope of those frogs that I listed. On top of that this blast cracked Reality itself.
The Kamehameha is strong in the DBZ verse but it’s barley even universal. Certainly not a LE level blast
The Homestuck verse is a powerhouse verse though. Even lower tiers could destroy the universe and multiply their mass by googleplex
By great speed feats you mean being FTL and no feat above that?
What counters does Bass have for LE’s hax?
Yes, on panel feats are a must! Destroying the bubble is great, but I’m not sure if I’d call that a universe blast though. Just because the universe and dimensions were in it doesn’t mean it’s that durable. For all we know, Ichigo’s Getsuga Tenshou could have broken it with minimal effort. I would definitely take the Kamehameha over any LE blast. Keep in mind that in GT it did rip a hole between dimensions. All those abilities in Homestuck sound intriguing and I’m glad that the writers had fun with it like how in Toriko everything’s been super exaggerated lately, but then we have to look through the feats and see if they make sense. For example, Toriko’s gang rarely live up to their hype.
Bass is basically limitlessly FTL. His power ups after already being FTL make him insanely fast. He doesn’t need much to stop the hax because he can speedblitz LE and destroy him with the Dark Arm Blade as soon as the match starts. The speed is really crucial here as well as his overwhelming power.
Where is your proof that the dimension is not as durable as a normal dimension should be? If we use Occam’s razor logic then unless we have proof it’s not durable it IS durable.
Dream bubble’s were specifically made by The Dark gods to BE durable and stable. And are you saying Reality in homestuck isn’t durable? Despite the fact that GPI probably made it durable so he could keep regrading creation? Well then let’s get rid of all feats like Bass’s blackhole feat and say it wasn’t durable. Goku’s Kamehamha and say the barriers weren’t durable. That’s lowballing and makes it hard to gauge feats Don’t do that.
He is FTL with upgrades but he’s never shown a single feat making him even flash fast.
Lord English has no reaction feats your right (IIRC a lower tier crossed the universe quickly) But I can see flash speed sharing with everyone which will make LE roughly at Bass’s speed level.
Based on LE’s other feats, it’s no stretch to say that it may have been as durable as a dimension. That being said, just because it holds the dimensions inside of it, I wouldn’t say means that it is that tough. It’s like a container for a nuclear war head, it’s not nearly as tough as the actual nuke. Bass continued to get drastically stronger and faster with each upgrade. Since he started out at light speed, it’s safe to say that he’s increased quite a lot since then.
The dream bubble contains dreams and is a lot like graphene. I’m not sure if I agree with that warhead analogy but I’ll accept it.
It is reasonable to say Bass is FTL. But other Cherubs are FTL and LE has a lot of upgrades and Ju Ju’s
Not just reasonable, but proven. Protoman’s statement wasn’t vague or anything like that. Personally, I’d say that Bass is the fastest character in all of media due to the sheer amount of upgrades and potential after his already impressive FTL feats, that’s what separates him from the pack.
I just looked back at Homestuck and I found out that LE might be able to react to Bass.
Lord English is an Adult cherub who is amped to a nigh-omnipotent amount. So we should be able to scale off other adult cherubs.
Adult Cherubs mate inside a large blackhole. So they need to be FTL to escape it. Furthermore Cherubs are capable of traveling across star systems quickly. Also if Cherubs choose to they can be one AU long (Distance from Earth to sun)
Of course, that also makes them a bigger target so he’ll want to be careful about that. Are you sure that Cherubs cannot teleport? If they can, it would nullify the possible speed feat. That being said, LE being FTL certainly helps to at least put him in the conversation of not getting speedblitzed here.
In the game you see most Cherubs fly not teleport. Only Lord english is a known teleporting cherub. Calliope might have done it at some point but I don’t re-call it
Also he tagged hussiebot who was moving within the span of Three Nanosconds. So that’s cool
Yeah, that’s definitely a pretty impressive feat. Not sure I’m crazy about the name of that villain, but that bot was certainly quick.
Also what about Elder god Demonbane? A weaker incarnation of himself was trading blows within the span of fetmoseconds.
And Bass.EXE isn’t unbeatable. He lost to Megaman.EXE
Yes, but keep in mind that Bass scoffs at such speed. Demonbane also won’t be able to use any energy attacks and Bass’ Get Ability will gradually power him up enough to make up for any difference in power, although any difference is debatable at this point.
Well combat speed in the Fetmoseoncds should be around Bass level speed. Even with the upgrades
EGD doesn’t use energy attacks anyway. He could seal Bass with the shining trapezohedron or Summon all demonbanes possible and not possible. Or he could cut bass to pieces.
I doubt his slashes could cut through Bass’ barriers and sealing Bass away would only buy EGD a few seconds at best. Combat speed on that level should buy him a few seconds, but with Bass still having the better offense and adaptability, it will only stall him in the end.
How Durable are Bass’s Barriers?
The sealing is Permanent. It sealed every Outer god at once so it should seal Bass
Bass doesn’t have better offense. He does have better Adaptability but then Doomsday would come in. He’s no joke when it comes to speed as he blitzed the JLA.
Also EGD has an attack that summons all Demonbanes possible and not possible. There will be a Demonbane that can adapt . A Demonbane that can copy. A demonbane that is a master martial artist etc etc.
It’s hard to say. They withstood a full Megaman Hub Style Blast so it’s safe to say that it is nigh indestructible. With the Earthbreaker and Dark Arm Blade at the ready, I don’t think any fighter has a better offense than Bass. As for adaptability, Bass won’t need to compete with Doomsday on that as he can quickly punch him into oblivion. The Demonbane thing sounds fun, but they would lose by the numbers.
How Powerful are Megaman’s Hubstyle blasts?
I’d say the Shining Trapezohedron Is one of the best offenses in fiction.
Bass one shotting Doomsday is very unlikley. The Omega beams blasted him full on and he didn’t die. He adapts to anything the moment it touches him. Anyway I don’t even know if it’s possible to kill doomday with one punch due to his healign factor and the fact that he has no vital organs or blood
Demonbane losing by the numbers is very unlikely when Demonbane can summon a demonbane that brought infinite solders (Book actually describes that as one of the demonbanes that can be summoned)
It’s unknown, but it was strong enough to take on many foes. I’m having a hard time recalling who Megaman defeated with it. He did use the 1% version to pierce Bass so the 100% shot must really be something. How I see it, if Doomsday has trouble with foes on the level of Superman and such, then he’ll be no match for a powerful punch from Bass. If Bass hits him hard enough, he’ll be completely obliterated. Think a Saitama punch. As for Demonbane, infinite soldiers is good, but Bass’ Darkness Overload covers a large area. They’ll all start falling as soon as they are summoned.
It might be strong but it’s not Hyperversal like the Shining Trapezohedron is.
Only weaker versions of doomsday had trouble. HP had no trouble taking him on. He also beat the JLA. I’m not sure Bass can hit hard enough to turn him into a puddle.
It’s an AOE but does is it a never ending AOE? Because Infinite is never ending
I just looked up the Shining Trapezohedron and it definitely doesn’t seem very impressive. Summoning that demon as an avatar is cool and all and he even appeared in TMNT which is neat, but I don’t see anything that would suggest he could react to Bass or even land an attack that would deal damage. I don’t really consider any H.P. Lovecraft monsters to be all that tough. Beating the JLA is good, but it’s usually with quite a lot of difficulty. Bass could wipe them all off the planet with a single shot.
Nothing is infinite though as everything has limits. So an “infinite amount of soldiers” would be more like 1000 or some arbitrary high number. The Darkness Overload is a wide blast so it would hit everything in front of it, which would be all of the soldiers and the portal summoning them would be destroyed as well.
How is the ST not impressive? Appeared in TMNT? That’s not canon.
How are the lovecraft monsters not tough? Lovecraft is one of the most powerful verses in all of fiction.
HP had no difficulty at all and he 1-3 shot all of them.
The book says “There was Demonbane that brought infinite amount of soldiers. ” Not “A demonbane that brought a portal which was summoning infinite soldiers.”
Infnite means never ending. he just brought a never ending amount of soilders. That’s not hard to believe. Even if you still think that’s not possible the Athleta Aeternum summons all Demonbanes possible and Not possible. So he can summon a demonbane that does the impossible
See, I definitely have to disagree with that. There’s only so much you can do in stories and lore. Lovecraft’s monsters never back up their tough sounding legends with any actual feats. ST just sounded like any other old legend. It shouldn’t be messed with, summons a cool avatar, but that’s about it.
Right, but the impossible and infinite are concepts that still just won’t happen. They can try to use an attack with infinite soldiers, but it will never truly be infinite. Every character has limits of some kind even if their original creator and media won’t acknowledge it.
It’s a book. Of course it’s all words. There are no pictures. You have to trust the words and description.
This is fiction. Stuff that’s not logical can happen.
Right, but there’s only so much a book can do. Visual feats will always trump written ones, no matter how impressive they sound. A city buster in an anime will always be stronger than a planet buster from a book due to how the medium is.
Still doesn’t allow infinites and all limits to be broken. Otherwise, paperbag busters like the One Above All would be crushing everyone!
Well then according to the rules on this site then EGD can’t be debated for or against.
A lot of people do think TOAA is the strongest guy (tied with other omnipotents) in all of media. But he’s not on this site since we can only use on-panel feats. If go on a site such as comicvine or reddit the general opinion is much different
Yeah, book monsters and individuals at least need a picture to be allowed entry, but of course even with a picture they are heavily nerfed in the grand scheme of things. Even if you go to a place like Death Battle, they tend to agree with the mainstream opinions. Just about every sight has TOAA on top, his fans must be pleased.
TOAA,Presence,GEB,EGD,Hajun,Featherine Augusts Aura,U-DO,Nameless mist,GPI,Lord English,Lucifer and Micheal …………. They are all top tiers in fiction. But on this site they are lower tiers. How does that make you feel?
Yeah, those guys are not just low tier, but bottom tier here. Nate The Great could give some of these guys a run for their money. Feels good B) It’s like I’m illuminating the future of debating!
How do you feel about those sites that put these guys as top tier?
I’m fine with it, everyone’s got their own opinion. It just so happens that a lot of people tend to have the same ones when it comes to those guys. I don’t hold it against them or anything, I mostly just find it amusing and have fun trying to debate them on some of these points. I had quite a lot of fun debating on Factpile and the MVC Lounge for a while
No character in media can actually beat the rest of media.
Too many people with too many hax.
There are people with Fate manipulation,Reality warping, Molecular deconstruction down to the Atom. Plot Manipulation etc etc.
And Bass is a robot. Pre-retcon beyonder has broken apart machines before and there are some very advanced hackers in Media.
I’m sure there’s more hax. That’s all I can think of of the top of my head
There are a lot of hax, but that can’t stop Bass. Keep in mind that Bass EXE is different from Bass. You seem to keep mixing them up..
Bass has no counter to those hax.
Why is it called Bass vs media and not Bass.exe vs media?
Because I consider exe to be the real Bass so I never add the EXE and instead choose to add “Kid” before the other Bass. Bass doesn’t need counters when he has raw power.
Raw power does not make you resistant to hax.
It does if you’re strong enough. It’s like how a character in an anime will break out of spell through sheer force alone.
That’s just not true.
No matter how strong you are you can’t resist soul manipulation.
No matter how strong you are you can’t resist molecular deconstruction
Some characters may be resistant to these but it’s likley not because of raw power
I’ve always disagreed on that aspect. I say that will power alays beats telepathy no matter how strong the telepath and likewise for soul drainage. Likewise, power tends to beat hax.
Strong people like Thor have been TP’ed by Red skull with the mind of Prof X
Yes, but that’s more plot hax than anything else.
Red skull with the mind of Prof X tp’ed Thor. So your theory seems wrong
Personally, I just disagreed with that issue. It didn’t really make any sense imo. Will power is definitely a thing even if the comics ignore it.
Will power is a thing but it can be bypassed
If you ask me, it should never be able to be bypassed. Unless the individual agrees with the villain on some level and ultimately wants to be mind controlled, then it shouldn’t be possible.
Multiple people who have been writing comics longer then you lived seem to disagree
Yes, I respectfully disagree with their assessment on telepathy. Also, the ability would be pretty useless if they followed my stance on it.
Disagree with dozens of comic book writers?
Well you see unique stuff in life.
Trust me, I am definitely very unique.
You think that Bass is strong? Lol. There are tons of beings who could kick his butt. Like the Anti-Spiral from Gurren Lagann. One Infinity Big Bang Storm should finish him.
I don’t think so. Bass can quickly zoom in and take the pilot down no sweat. It’s what he does!
Lol Bass gets stomped. There are tons of characters that can beat Bass. Like the Anti-spiral from Gurren Lagann. One Infinity Big Bang Storm should finish Bass.
Lol you’ve never heard of Gurren Lagann have you? What the Infinity Big Bang Storm does is when the Anti-Spiral’s mecha, Granzeboma grabs two galaxies, it forms a ball and throws it at it’s opponent. The explosion then unleashes and endless series of big bangs
Let me stop you there.
The Anti Spiral was actually pretty impressive so I’ll give you some props for bringing him up.
HOG Ion erases him from the timeline.
I dunno about that.
It’s true. Ion got to a point of power where he could affect time on such a scale where he made ZH Parallax, a universal reality warper, a chump by removing his power from existence. He could either remove his creation from space and time of prevent him from having any amps.
And he’s omnipresent.
That definitely seems like a pretty handy ability to have then. I highly doubt it will be able to do much against Bass if we’re being honest though, but it should be good against most fighters.
Why wouldn’t ION removing him from time work?
And Bass’ attacks wouldn’t connect. He’s everywhere at once. He could probably rip Bass apart from the inside.
He could try, but Bass is an existence. He’s basically a conceptual law at this point and can’t be removed so easily. Being everywhere at once is the problem since Bass could punch in a random direction and still land the hit.
Ion can remove him without affecting the universe in anyway. Everything would be set normal, but Bass wouldn’t exist.
And prove he’s a conceptually law of reality.
I’d imagine Ion’s omnipresence works like Alucard’s from Hellsing, without the weakness of self belief. He’s simply unkillable.
Right, I don’t think that would work on Bass. Show me a scan of Ion removing Bass from existence. You can’t because it simply couldn’t happen!
Nothing is unkillable though. Enough sword slashes and energy blasts will take anyone down. Just look at how Goku took down Buu in the end.
Fine. Using your logic…
Can you show Bass resisting high tier Time Manipulation and Reality Warping from Ion? No, you can’t.
You know, asking me for a scan of Ion blinking Bass out of time and space is unfair. There isn’t a crossover between the two franchises.
In fact, I could simply ask for a scan of Bass harming someone from outside the universe or with Omnipresence, and you couldn’t.
That’s true…it puts us at a stalemate there.
You have a point.
So what happens now from this Stalemate.
It comes down to gut instinct and determination. It’s really just a coin toss at that moment. So, for example, I think Bass would be able to win, but in terms of reasoning we’re at a stalemate so you are free to go for The Rest of Media instead.
Alright, what about Professor Zoom? He’s got some pretty hax stuff like Time-Stop and erasing people from existence.
Oh, and he’s one shot PC Power Ring, who was Manhandling SA Superman, and also one shot PC Superwoman, who fought evenly with SA Diana.
That’s pretty impressive.
This’ll beat him: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/aa/08/40/aa0840becaebe6189563228ba49b91ed.jpg
Overloaded with cuteness.
I gotta admit that this little guy looks fierce!
Lord English has fate/plot manipulation, something Bass can’t counter, and killed Andrew Hussie, the author of MS Paint Adventures.
He beats Bass.
Defeating your own author is cool I suppose, but I assume that he was just a mere mortal though right?
So do you think Bass can survive multiple attacks from these guys:
1: Godzilla’s atomic breath
2: Superman’s heat vision
3: Dante’s Blade of Yamato
4: A blast from Picolo
5: Lord Voldemort’s Death spell.
6: WB Hulk’s stomp at the end of World War Hulk
7: Planet Busting
8: A supernova from the Living Tribunal
9: STTGL’s Giga Drill Break
10: A spirit bomb
11: Unicron’s hunger
12: Pre-Retcon Beyonder’s power
13: Multiple Hubblast from Mega Man.
14: Elder God Demonbane’s Shining Trapezohedron.
15: The Glory
16: The final blast used by TOAA in his fight with the Presence in that Death Battle.
17: Omniverse Busting Attack
Nah, I think not. He’ll be annihilated by the last three attacks. The Glory could also cause the Omniverse to collapse.
Tell me this then. Do you consider The Glory to be stronger than a Kamehameha?
Yes. When has the Kamehameha been able to destroy the Omniverse?
When has it gotten the opportunity too?
Provide a scan of the Kamehameha destroying all of creation.
It never has though
Then the Glory is stronger than it.
I’d still take the Kamehameha. It was able to take down Buu, it can definitely take down The Glory.
If I didn’t know better, I would call you a fanboy. I’m going to eat a burger.
Good thing you do know better then 😉 I had a pizza myself.
Plus, we don’t know if Bass can survive all those attacks.
Bass survived a Hub Style Blast.
What makes you think the Hubstyle Blast is on par with the Glory?
It’s one of the only attacks that was seen as a threat to Bass. At least to the extent where he had to block it.
Corroboration to prove it?
Sure, I can grab the scan to show you later. It was from volume 5
Here’s the Glory:
Which one was The Glory?
@Dreager1 It’s a weapon.
There are 5 pictures in the link. The last one is the Glory.
It looks like a shattered mirror though.
So…the weapon merges universes and stuff? If it destroys the whole Omniverse, then it sounds pretty risky for the user unless they’re insured.
The weapon has two combatants battle each other. Whoever won the duel would become the new wielder. But if the Glory doesn’t replace the wielder, the Omniverse would fall apart and everything would end. The new wielder also has control over the Omniverse.
Okay, sounds like a fun weapon at any rate. Certainly a high stakes battle.
Bass could get control of the Glory, that is, if he fights and defeats another opponent.
Which opponent was in possession of him at the end?
Esterath was the controller of the Glory.
He must have definitely had it made during that time.
aka THE OMNIVERSAL SPECTRUM.
That sounds too abstract to be useful in a fight though.
I need to request a battle: Elder God Demonbane vs The Spectre
All right, I’ll throw it in the vault.
This is very off-topic, but now the U.S. is screwed by the new president.
Still better than Clinton though.
Yugi: I Now Summon… EXODIA! OBLITERATE!
Bass.EXE: ugh…. #_=
I Think Exodia Could One Shot Bass.EXE, Or If Ra Uses His Phoenix Form, Could Also One Shot Bass.EXE.
I think Bass is too fast for that.
Or Yugi Could Send Bass.EXE Into The Shadow Realm By Winning A Duel Or Some Made Up Game.
The problem is that Bass breaks the rules
Now That I Think About It, Yubel Could Beat Bass.EXE Easily With It’s Reality Warping Powers, Due To Ignoring His Durability.
She is very powerful, but Bass still has the speed advantage
I Bet Even Diabound Could Defeat Bass.EXE Due To His Attack Point Lowering Ability.
Only if he can catch him
Yubel Does Not Have To Catch Him To Erase Him From The Battle Field, With It’s Reality Warping Powers He Can’t Out Speed That.
Reality Warping powers are overhyped. They can’t actually take the win when it counts!
Actually, Goku Black Could Defeat Bass.EXE Easily, Due To His Limitless Potential. Or He One Shots Bass.EXE With A Black Kamehameha, Or A Ki Scythe.
Potential doesn’t amount to actual feats though. It simply won’t be enough to claim the win
Hypocrite. Saying this
Potential doesn’t amount to actual feats though. It simply won’t be enough to claim the win
is what you have been doing this whole time.
Bass cannot destroy omniverses. The most impressive thing he did was escape a black hole.
Reality Warping powers are overhyped. They can’t actually take the win when it counts!
LOl, you can’t can you.
Compared to other things, bass is pathetic.
I read the entierty of megaman, and he is nowhere near Unicrons or Gokus or even Asriel’s power.
Done ‘N’ Dusted.
“but Shulk is a photoshopped Little Mac!” That’s basically this argument. Bass hasn’t destroyed Omniverses because he has never had too. Reality Warping doesn’t do anything against will power. Bass has the skills to pay the bills.
Heh, I just realized until now that this is basically impossible for Bass. Fiction is like the Universe, always expanding and getting bigger. There are so many characters out there can hold down Bass while the others beat him from both sides. It’s like pitting North Korea against the world; Fiction/All of media will just keep coming at him. You also have to consider that all of fiction combined has unlimited resources. They will eventually find a way to remove his power and there’s no way he could keep on replicating everyone’s power.
Let me propose a challenge: Bass tries to do this while drunk.
That would definitely make things pretty interesting! They might have a chance now…maybe
“To be or not to be, that is the question”
This one’s a no brainer. MegaMan has the Ultimate Program and can get all of Bass’s powers and destroy him to bits. Bass couldn’t control MegaMan’s Ultimate Program, despite absorbing its awesome power. Bass is pretty big and stuff, but Quality>Quantity. MegaMan pwns this match with ease and shows why he’s the best. I tried to add in as many pictures of MegaMan recking Bass as possible. If there’s a really big one that I missed, be sure to let me know, so MegaMan can wipe the floor like an anime fan on prom night. MegaMan is outnumbered by essentially infinity+infinity to 1, but he always finds a way. MegaMan wins.
Kek. I can tell by your avatar.
Absolutely. Bass is the strongest in all the cosmos
Fool. Obviously, I’m the strongest of all existence.
Also, you didn’t display my Megaman response.
It should be there. I haven’t deleted any and I checked the spam box just in case
I’m guessing Bassnium is an alloy, an instrument, a fish and a religion. Why do you believe the CyberWorld contain the whole multiverse?
Have you ever played and watched Digimon?
Where did I say that it is the multiverse?
Yeah, I’ve watched most of the seasons and played a lot of the games
You claimed Bass was the strongest in the cosmos. I’m assuming he isn’t the strongest after all.
He definitely is though. His feats speak for themselves
Rule #9 and #10 are cringe worthy:
“9. Only shown, or otherwise eligible feats count. So guys like The One Above All are technically powerless to fight unless they actually fight in the future”
Ever heard of the term No Limit Fallacy?
“10. No willing people out of existence. This is a fight after all!”
So it’s pretty much a guaranteed win after all, Kek
I think so. No limits is a bad thing to assume.
Fights are real, no cheesy powers can stop a true match
So you’re basically handicapping everyone to Bass’s advantage.
This is a Real Fight after all folks; now we’re certain that Bass lacks the resistance for space and time manipulation. Exdeath is certainly VOID!
No, I’m just stating that cheesy hax won’t fly here. You have to win with Real skills
And, you want have it with handicaps. “Cheesy Hax” are part of their skills.
They aren’t true skills and only work with bad writing. Throw them in a real fight and their abilities wouldn’t really work anyway
Then don’t give Bass the Get Ability if that’s the case. It’s just a bad reason why Bass “would supposedly” win. You gave Bass a skill that was already given to him, which is just him copying the skills of everyone else. Let’s use the word “skills” in a suppose it bullshit statement and that the Get Ability isn’t really a true skill by your standards. Hypocrisy at its finest.
It’s a legitimate skill though and one that we have actually seen in action as opposed to simply hearing about. That’s why it counts
So erase magic like Exdeath’s void doesn’t count? Even though we’ve seen it.
It is counted as a strong form of energy. Think of it like a Kamehameha. It’s not guaranteed death, but it’ll destroy you if you’re too weak to endure it
No one can endure a blackhole, unless you’re immune. Only you would compare the void with a Kamehameha. Kek
That’s a big assumption. Many characters can survive a black hole. Bass did it himself in the manga and a Kamehameha>>>Black Holes
I think I have reached a new low here. Even when you’re trying to compare reality with fiction; bullshit seems to take place. You got me surprised sir.
I always aim to go above expectations so no worries, I’m used to surprising people
So it’s admittedly you trolling. You’ve reached my lowest expectations, mate.
I’m no troll though. I just state the facts
Or state whatever is in the top of your mind.
They’re the same thing though
So without evidence, you’re right either way. Good God, this is going to end wrong.
Sometimes I just know more about the characters than even the authors
Umm, sure. And Author can write a lot better than you could ever.
I personally doubt that
We’re agreed then
That’s unfortunate then
Mind reading my analysis or are you going to ignore it.
I did read it. Granted, I don’t remember what it was at this point, but that was a while ago
Now you’re making Excuses.
One whole week was not a while ago, sir and your attitude haven’t changed in the slightest. A month would’ve made sense, but I assure you that petty excuses like these are the reason why you’re a Plaster saint and a Dunning Krueger. Makes me wonder why you’re arguing with a person who also does research.
I’ve played the games, watched the anime, and read the manga, yet you kept on denying the things I’m saying. You just don’t want to admit it, now do you? I’ve had done multiple debates all my life and I’ve always admitted to my mistakes when I was wrong. Maturity is the thing you lack, as life is about learning and it comes from a sufficient amount of experience. I take both sides whenever I do an actual debate and whatever reason seems plausible, I’ll stick to it. You on the other hand have a depraved bias with Bass.
If you have nothing to say about my argument, then you know I’m right. You’re just playing it cool to preserve your little to no dignity and your character’s reputation. To me, sir, it’s embarrassing. If you have the internet making fun of you, then you do know it’s time to stop.
No one can take on the entire media and neither can you.
A week is a while ago and the way the notifications works makes it difficult to know what comment I’m even responding to sometimes. Why would a week change my disposition either? You need years for that kind of thing. As for you reading the manga, I wonder about that. You should have realized Bass’ true power if that was actually the case.
Taking both sides during a debate doesn’t seem logical to me but I suppose if you want to feel like you’ve won no matter who actually claimed victory then it makes sense. Bass is the strongest by far and we have the feats to prove it. He has proven himself!
No he hasn’t. Simply put that MegaMan.Exe is the superior compared to Bass. You complained about the responses I made is from a while back. Despite answering to all of my responses, you have the decency to say it took to long. Would you need an year for your brain to develop? You should actually give me some evidence instead of saying the same crap.
Taking both sides avoid cynical bias (like you for example) and it makes you see the pro and cons of each characters in battle. Proving Bass being the strongest without evidence and the lack of integrity of giving a fair battle shows me that you forcibly want Bass to win by spamming. I’ve shown you the manga chapters and it’s your turn to comply. What can I say, simply MegaMan.Exe is superior.
It takes years for my brain to develop, not just one. Now that would be crazy. I think we have to take all of this at face value. Megaman can’t beat Bass as the manga proves time and time again.
I don’t get how you’ve shown me anything. If anything, I’ve been the one putting up the facts and figures. Just look at my many Bass posts and see how I’ve proven beyond a reasonable shadow of a doubt that he is the best
If that’s so, then I would love to see you post on a debate forum.
I recommend TOAA vs. Bass.Exe
MegaMan.Exe vs Bass.Exe
Prove it and I’ll accept your claims, but make sure you give me the link: (If that’s possible)
If you can convince a mass majority of people, then I’ll be convinced of Bass’s “OP” feats. If not however, then I’m right, as all of my facts came from this wiki. http://megaman.wikia.com/wiki/Bass.EXE?li_source=LI&li_medium=wikia-footer-wiki-rec
Can you prove you’re not a waste of life and time?
I have proved that already by getting a McDouble in the Morning
Use your alt.
Time for hype
That site’s pretty rigged though. My alt is already blocked as well so now I only have 2 of them left. Still, I proved that Bass would win. The only defense against him is to try to block the user
Two alts, yet you told them who you are. Of course they’re going to have a hate boner against a numbskull like you, since you lack decisive evidence. There is a reason why you are listed on the Joke’s Battle Wiki after all.
Why do you have 4 accounts?
Nah, these guys are just bias. Of course I need 4 accounts since once they figure out I’m DReager I get shut down instantly. The others I don’t admit that I’m DReager though so then I’m treated amiably
I’m starting to see a pattern here. Do you know these people?
I don’t think so, but you never know. I often wonder if a lot of these people online are actually co-workers of mine in the real or something
There are around 7.5 billion people on Earth’s population, so it wouldn’t be likely. The internet is vast place filled with people from a multitude of different backgrounds and I’m pretty sure they’re just viewers who are passing by.
No offense, but you should really try to change your act. That’s all I have to say, so either you take it or leave it. It all depends on you Dreager1.
Your choice, not mine.
Not likely, but not impossible either right? I’m just saying that it’s a possibility. My site is pretty successful in its own right as well. It’s the only site where you can see consistent quality battles where the records and rankings are actually uploaded and updated. Most impressive if you ask me.
Success doesn’t always make a person positive or just, hence the term infamy is made.
The term, lolcow, “is a person you get extensive laughs from, who doesn’t know they are being made fun of. They can often think they are admired for what they are doing, but secretly are being laughed at constantly.” may relate with my argument.
That’s really all I have to say.
I’m not sure about that term, but I’ll keep it as future reference I suppose
Some of Dreager1’s quotes include:
“Sometimes I just know more about the characters than even the authors”
“That’s a big assumption. Many characters can survive a black hole. Bass did it himself in the manga and a Kamehameha>>>Black Holes”
“They aren’t true skills and only work with bad writing. Throw them in a real fight and their abilities wouldn’t really work anyway”
“No, I’m just stating that cheesy hax won’t fly here. You have to win with Real skills”
“One Above All can handle some air, but not a tornado of power and that’s what Bass is”
“Hey, I call em as I see em. Noncanon feats are sometimes enough to tip the scales.”
“Yes and that is actually true. Akuma is easily the strongest SF character thanks to that game and Ryu also got a nice boost as well. You seem to think you “caught” me or something but if you look at their fights you’ll see that Akuma has been benefiting from this boost for a while now” (Noncanon Asura’s Wrath Akuma and Ryu)
“Lets put it this way. Bass’ best feats are from the manga such as his limitless speed and power. His Get Ability can copy any ability without fail so these guys couldn’t stay ahead of him even if they somehow did start out ahead. I wouldn’t use the One Above All as an example either since he’s weaker than 99% of all characters. Omnipotence isn’t all that its cracked up to be. Trust me on that one”
“I’ve done more than 5600 battles though. There are currently 11650 battles on the site. (Counting drafts though)”
“The first half didn’t seem to have much of a purpose so I ignored it. The only relevant part was the number of battles” (Quality>Quantity)
“No, I’m just stating that cheesy hax won’t fly here. You have to win with Real skills”
“I went to a few forums, but they couldn’t seem to grasp basic stuff like feats>>>Hype so I quickly got out of there!” (Only Bass is god)
“No, I’m just as far above debating sites, as Cheese Sandwiches are above Butter Sandwiches”
As much as Dreager1 want to state that I’m not making a point, here are some of the “points” he have said. Conceited and Egotistical, as none of the things have any proof or knowledge whatsoever, which is why I’m supposedly exposing him. Sometimes he knows more than the authors themselves, even though they are the ones that gives Bass a character and feats, plus the added bonus of not creating a Mary-sue in the process. Little do we know, Dreager1 made the designs for Bass (not Keiji Inafune) and gave him the power to destroy all of media (although he did lose to Megaman on multiple occasions). To him, the Manga Canon coincides with the Original (Like if Dreager1 never heard of a multiverse with multiple incarnations before) and created a Bass with more plot than Fairy Tail can ever have.
11,650 battles and you expect some improvement or a different attitude, but instead you get the “Bass wins” comment with little to no proof whatsoever. It was shown in the Manga that he was weak without his operator in the chapter “Journey with MegaMan” and promptly said that his operator made a new Navi and forgot about him (and that’s from the Manga Canon!), while he doesn’t in the original. In the Anime, he had absorbed MegaMan when MegaMan offered it to Bass to stop Nebula Grey, though Bass couldn’t handle MegaMan’s Ultimate Program and nearly self-destructed, forcing MegaMan to use Double Soul instead, forming Bass Cross MegaMan. Composites can be fun, but giving the opponent a handicap because some characters have “cheesy hax” or “Plot Armor” are inexcusable. Bass has the Get Ability, which can copy Any (and I said any) abilities, yet Dreagar1 lets it slide because it’s Bass we’re dealing with. Defining skills like Reality Warp (Mister Mxyzptlk), Nonexistence Manipulation (Marvel’s Oblivion), and Omnipotence (TOAA, who he have reduced to an Elderly Human by Dreager1 apparently) are unappreciated and will say ignorant shit like “Punisher wins with a bullet” and (http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/joke-battles/images/0/08/Toaadownplayed.png/revision/latest?cb=20161022015743).
In the Gospel Arc, Bass gained Hub Style (MegaMan’s strongest Style) by using his Get Ability program. Lan fainted due to the burden his body took while performing Perfect Synchro and MegaMan was beaten to a pulp by Bass. In the nick of time, Lan regained consciousness and once again use Hub Style with MegaMan. By focusing all of his remaining power into his finger, MegaMan able to defeat Bass. MegaMan.Exe (Aka Lan’s lost brother) strongest form is his human form, Hub, and deleted Nebula Gray with a wave of his hand. MegaMan potentially became the strongest Navi in the entire series with total energy and matter manipulation as well as data assimilation on a universal scale.
Characters who are stronger than MegaMan.Exe can defeat Forte.Exe with little to no trouble at all. Dunning-Krugers are people of low ability suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their cognitive ability as greater than it is. The cognitive bias of illusory superiority derives from the metacognitive inability of low-ability persons to recognize their own ineptitude; without the self-awareness of metacognition, low-ability people cannot objectively evaluate their actual competence or incompetence. Reducing Omnipotence like TOAA, Azathoth, and The Creators (Megaman NT Warrior) really shows me that you lack the competence of doing battle debates, as you claim you’re “far above” compared to other debate sites on the web. No Limit Fallacy is also a term you disregard.
Here are some other point outs I did, yet you ignored:
Non-canon with canon feats…. must be a boost!
Get Ability, yet was unable to handle Megaman’s Ultimate Chip…. presumably can handle an onslaught from the whole entire media. Ben 10 totally ripped it off!!!
Void Powers…. Nonexistent!
TOAA…. The Enemy!
God…. Certainly, doesn’t exist after making all them Quality and “fair” content.
Handicaps….What Handicaps!?! All battles are fair and based on my laws (https://dreager1.com/blog-battle-rules/)
Rule #4… “Bass is invincible and cannot be defeated. So trying to get him a loss is impossible!”
Rule #10 “No willing people out of existence. This is a fight after all!”
Rule #9 “Only shown, or otherwise eligible feats count. So guys like The One Above All are technically powerless to fight unless they actually fight in the future” ……..(Even though the One Above All was also has never been defeated)
Reality Overwrite….Has no effect on Bass because he’s the best and only the best! Who needs proof if I can only say that! 😀
Time Traveling….cheating. Doctor Who can suck it.
Omnipotence…. despite being able to manipulate all planes of existence, Bass would solo. It’s probably shown in a manga page somewhere.
Bass vs Media…. Bass solos the omniverse, even if I said it’s impossible to reach infinity. Bass can do it though.
Bassnium…an instrument, an alloy, a fish and a religion.
The guy with a G1 Soundwave avatar?…… Inferior. My word is Bass.
Dreager1’s been Owned!
Cheese and rice!
Speaking of black holes, let’s take a moment to honor Stephen Hawking.
May he rest in piece 😥
“Death is not the greatest loss in life. The greatest loss is what dies inside us while we live.” -Norman Cousins
The passing of Stephen Hawking may seem dreadful; however, he’ll never be forgotten. May he rest in piece.
Peace, not piece.
Need to get a little shut-eyes.
Yes, the guy definitely had a lot of good ideas over the course of his life
wait what about every character who can shut down o hack programs and stuff like that shouldent that be enough to destroy bass
Nah, Bass would adapt and still speedblitz for the win
but everyone who could cancel his powers go into his mind and as i said before hack programs together at once could hold him off and counter his ‘get’ ability. as goku in ultra instinct harnesses a super spirit bomb (which is unavoidable) made of all of fictions strongest warriors combined with a reality bomb being charged by the all spark as all the mary sues and Gary stus overwhelm him with uncountable attacks as dedede and kirby are eating a sandwich. pharaoh man.exe (who bass.exe is the reincarnation of) would try taking over bass too. Bass possibly (in my opinion not likely) could take over 1 strong guy, but he can not take down the worlds largest and strongest army ever created. I understand you like bass.exe alot but that doesn’t always means he’s the winner of every fight. Krillins my favorite character but i don’t say he could easily beat grand priest or superman.
That still wouldn’t be enough to stop Bass. If you look up the word invincible in the dictionary you are sure to see a picture of Bass. That’s how incredibly OP he is. I actually do think Krillin would stomp Superman though. Grand Priest would probably win, but he has no real feats so even he would probably get wrecked by Krillin. Don’t underestimate your favorite characters, sometimes they end up surprising you.
Well you see, fiction is everything that is made up, so what if infinite characters specifically made to defeat bass.exe who have all the same abilities of him and are stronger, all attack him? Also, i understand that i shouldent underestimate my favorite characters. but putting bass against all of fiction, is going to lead to him losing eventually against every fictional thing.
Well, hypothetically a character could be made to defeat Bass, but it hasn’t happened yet. While it is all of media against Bass, it doesn’t count fan characters. He is fighting all other characters who have been created and at this point there is no one who can defeat him.
Yeah it did, hes called gospel
Bass would wreck Gospel though
Gospel almost destroyed the net, you know, the thing bass LIVES IN, bass has never done that, it has been never stated he could do that, there is no evidence he could ever do that, nor can he destroy the omniverse as there is the same thing there, the best feat bass.exe EVER DID, was escape a black hole, if you can show me any higher feat i will agree with you. If you want to say he can, megaman.exe is now a realitty warping omniverse+ buster who can instantly destroy bass with a tap.
Bass isn’t limited by the net though and in an open space he can overrun Gospel with speed. Don’t forget that in the manga Bass was able to shake the planet just by powering up. Megaman is a top 3 fighter in all of media for sure so I’d dare say that he is omniversal. Bass has the best stats around the board though and lets not forget that his best advantage is also his speed. Nobody’s getting close enough to him to score a hit
Well goku managed to do that in namek, so by your logic that means hes on par with bass, if i understand correctly. Gospel also happens to be a unstable clone of bass, which means he at least is around his power, yet both he and bass were defeated by megaman. Also before you say plot hax, that doesn’t exist, if a character beats another character by strength, there stronger, and if by wits, there smarter.
True, Goku is one of the few fighters that can actually give Bass a good fight. I’d say that what hurts Goku is the fact that while he is strong, he’s been known to get rekt by random characters. Remember the time he got knocked out by a ray gun? Gospel isn’t close to Bass in power or speed. Bass was able to move so much faster than light that he took out around 100 enemies in .001 seconds early on in the manga. That’s before he even got any of his power ups so that shows just how OP he is.
Plot Hax is a real thing though. It happens a lot, in some series more than others for sure. I don’t think any series has been exempt from plot hax
Megaman can beat bass.
I dunno about that
Well I say he can so he can isnt that what you do?
Well that’s true, but Bass always has feats to support him
I mean so does megaman, but im not exactly sure what makes it different
But Bass has better feats though. He’s always taking names
but he arlready did.
pharohmans data was given to gospel and bass, making him stronger than the two
+ the feats I have seen you show others prove nothing, you said that the black hole may have been a black hole, and going fast enough to not be seen and destroy a sword…isn’t that fast or strong. Bass isn’t that good at least from what I have seen.
That was plot hax. Bass is way stronger than Gospel. Hubstyle Megaman took down the Vierus Beast with ease and Bass was crushing him. The Black Hole was definitely what it was. There’s no reason to suggest it was anything else except to downplay Bass. Bass is top tier confirmed
Nah, gospel is really op, and yeah of course megaman.exe took down the virus beast with ease, like how he did with bass in the video i showed you, and yes, bass did escape a black hole, but classic megaman escaped a black hole aswell, and megaman.exe is trillions of times stronger than classic megaman. Ill give you this though, he has a nice cloak. Also sorry for the late reply ive been busy.
Could Bass get pass SCP-682’s adapting ability? Nope. At least not for me. It’s broken in durability and regeneration. Bass would never permanently put it down.
It would be tricky, but SCP just isn’t fast enough to dodge Bass’ attacks and his durability isn’t high enough for him to withstand Bass’ initial onslaught.
His durability isn’t high enough? LOL. It’s survived getting reduced to like 7% of it’s body. You’d also have to destroy the universe to do any lasting/serious damage to it.
Bass can definitely destroy the universe though and his intense attacks will come be unrelenting. SCP just won’t really be able to do much against the onslaught and that’s why he’ll be doomed to defeat.
O.K. How about this: Could Bass withstand all of fiction combining every single attack ever into one without any damage?
If he didn’t dodge or block it? Then he would withstand it, but it would probably deal some serious damage. Fiction is no joke
BUT what if Bass fought Bass? HIMSELF?! What does he do?!
You just admitted he lost because if Bass beats Bass, he loses. Don’t you see a paradox here?! Even though he wins, he loses because he beat himself.
I admit nothing! I just said that Bass wins and he does. The character is so strong that he defies logic
Ctrl alt delete pwns bass bass is just an execution all it takes is one ctrlaltdelete and click stop bass.exe. Are you sure you want to stop bass.exe yes right click delete bass.exe are you sure you want to delete bass.exe permanently yes. Bass.exe is gone
Nobody would actually hit yes to the last question though
Bass is soloed by Thanos’s moon throwing.
Bass would dodge though
Chuck Norris will hit yes because he ain’t scared of a little program thus Bass cease to exist.
That’s reasonable I suppose. He is afraid of no one!
The Capcom verse defeats Bass.EXE with ease. Dante spams Ebony and Ivory, Ryu spams Hadoukens, Zero spams energy blasts and classic Mega Man throws a black hole at Bass.EXE. What could do to counter all that?
Bass would power up which would send everyone flying. Then he picks them off one by one with his Dark Arm Blade of the law. That ought to show them what true power really is!
Once MCU Thanos gets the Infinity Gauntlet all he has to do is snap his fingers like in the comic.
He wouldn’t have enough time to snap his fingers
Or he then rips a moon out of orbit and throws it at Bass.
Bass punches it back to him at double the speed!
Then he turns Bass to bubbles.
At least then he would be balanced…as all things should be
OK, that one got me. +5 Wit points, DReager
Thanks, I definitely enjoyed a lot of the quotes and memes from that film!
Who started the bubbles meme?
It started in Infinity War, at least the source material did. I’m not sure who started the meme
How about http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Bass_(Classic) vs. http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Bass.EXE
That fight already happened. Bass ended up defeating Classic Bass
Would Bass still win the drunk challenge? I guess not.
Hmm, that one definitely gets tough. Bass is ultimately powerful of course, but this definitely takes more than just raw power
I dunno about that one
Here is how the fight would go.
Bass is instantley vaporized
Bass simply stands no chance. Not only is he outnumbered but there are beings whos power level make him look like an ant. Your logic is extremely illogical. I have seen your reaction to comments on past posts. You make no sense.
BTW Living Tribunal solos
I dunno, I’ve been through this a lot on various powerful fighters and none of them are even close to Bass
Bass crushes him with a single blow
Anti-Monitor is a multiverse buster
He is very powerful for sure
Monika whoul just detele bass
Creative mode steve whould just put tnt around him
Archie sonic whould wreck him
Zalgo whould just make him kill himself
Pennywise whould mind mess with him him easy
……………………………….train is weak too and he sucks also
Not gonna lie, you had me until you said Monika!
How to beat Bass easily:
Step 1: Giorno Giovanna and GER reduce Bass’ willpower to 0
Step 2: Literally any multiversal+ character walks up and kills Bass while he is helpless.
Nobody can reduce Bass’ willpower though. The guy’s like an engine that never holds back!
As for multiversal characters, they couldn’t catch Bass. The guy’s too fast
I mean, Diavolo (Giorno’s Opponent) was a typical ‘never give up’ guy too, but he could do nothing. Yeah, he still WANTED to keep going, he WANTED to kill Giorno, but he could only imagine.
Sure, Bass can be hotheaded and confident, he can believe in himself, but willpower isn’t a superpower, and he has shown no feats that would suggest he can resist complete mind and reality manipulation effects.
That’s true, Diavolo had a lot of will and it didn’t work but Bass has consistently trampled everyone in his path. He knows now the meaning of defeat or surrender and his Get Ability ensures that he stays in the game for all eternity. Anytime Giorno tries to mess with him Bass would be able to just turn the tables and get right back on top. It’s why he cannot be defeated
He can’t use get. He has no willpower to do so while fighting GER.
Bass always has willpower though. The guy doesn’t know the meaning of the word surrender!
… why is everyone so mad at this. Unless I am getting reverse whooshed, It is so obvious that dreager is a memer. Nobody is going to wank some baby faced cartoon character that much.
No trolling here my man. Bass is just too powerful…too cool….too awesome! (T_T)
I have seen many bullshit claims here on this website, but this, this is far beyond the bullshti level
Bass.exe is not as strong as you believe him to be
He does not solo media.
Yes he is strong but no way is he on the top
Lemme just name a couple characters that could wipe the floor with bass.exe
For one megaman.exe, pretty obvious
archie Sonic( He can bypass pretty much a lot of reality warping effects and legit is invincible with super sonic and has wish powers
Battler Ushiromiya with Endless Nine (The way his ability works is that as long as he doesn’t acknowledge the existence of the attack or his opponent, it simply will not affect him. It has no weakness as long as he’s mentally strong, it bypasses reality warping, plot manipualtion, narrative manipualtion, and everything you can dream of.
Giorno with ger( I already explained so many times, RETURN TO ZERO
Legit top tiers from the super dragon ball heroes series
So characters like capsule corp goku, xeno trunks, xeno goku
They pretty much have hax jesus op powers that make them just immune to shit and hell some of them can wield a key sword that can nullify a persons powers and just shut down their abilities.
I mean the list goes on, sure those are just some of the top tier characters, there are many more.
Point is, bass.exe is definitely strong, but not the strongest in all media
Bass is basically invincible though. His speed is pretty much limitless and with the Get Ability he gets stronger and stronger in every moment. He can nullify all projectile attacks with his cape and then he can also reflect other projectiles at double speed. His Get Ability happens passively so it’s really hard to stop it from activating as well.
Giorno….nooooo lets not get into that guy.
Dragon Ball heroes are the closest characters for sure but they’re just not going to be able to keep up with Bass for long as he keeps getting stronger. Bass is always stronger than Megaman and while Sonic is super fast, he wouldn’t have enough ability to take Bass down for the count.
Battler Ushiromiya is someone I’m not as familiar with but his ability to not acknowledge attacks would also have a limit like all other abilities. So Bass just needs to hit him hard enough and that would be it for him. Keep in mind that Bass was FTL in Base form before getting Hubstyle, Beast Out, Dark Mode, and more.
Ok so now i gotta break down every character here
Bass is not invincible, he has been damaged and defeated by megaman.exe
Second of all I want proof of his speed being so called limitless
Thrid of all his get ability has limitsand from what I know have only been capable of being used on netnavy’s, What about organic beings that are not some coded robot?
Giorno: i already explained so many times, ger is busted that’s all i will say and it should be enough to pummel bass.exe
Archie sonic: This dude is a fucking menace, and in case your wondering archie sonic is sonic from the comics, not the games, So what is different about him?
Well in the archie comics he is WAYYYY more faster then his game counterpart. and has new ability’s like turning invisible and phasing through objects, Hell is true powers lies in the chaos force, in which he has a barrier that makes shields his spirit and mind and overall just much tougher to kill.
As for his super sonic form, well its much stronger, for one the dude is invincible meaning any attacks just become ineffective. Hell he was practically immune to having his molecules being ripped away.
And his strongest form ultra sonic is just busted, he can manipulate matter at an atomic matter, allowing him to create many things like opening portals across different space times or turning air into water.
Hell with it he even has the power to grant wishes like i said before, the dude with this has rewritten reality, revived dead people and has turned back time before,
With chaos control he can time travel and can reality warp. So pretty much the dude is just bullshit powerful
Like i alreayd said, the top tiers of dragon ball heroes could easily deal with bass.exe, especially with their keyword, what good is bass.EXE get ability if its nullified by the keyword, being stabbed or sliced by the sword can pretty much be gg’s for almost anyone. meaning if bass.exe is sliced or stabbed by the keysword, say goodbye to all his superforms and abilities and i guess him too.
Megaman.exe had already defeated him so idk why you say bass is stronger
Ushiromiya ability does have a limit. He needs to stay mentally strong in order for endless nine to work. Getting him to break it is not easy. If he believes an attack wont hurt him, then it wont hurt him. So bass really cant do anything unless he is mentally broken.
Hell i got another guy i wanna show
Misogi Kumagawa and his All-fiction ability
All Fiction is, as its name suggests the ability to make anything into fiction. As in, to make it stop existing. It works on anything. It can turn anything… or anyone… into nothing.
It works on actions. If someone kicked Kumagawa, he can make that into “fiction” and he is not kicked.
It works on people, so anyone can be “killed” by just making them “not exist.”
It even works on death. And in fact, if Kumagawa dies due to any reason, All Fiction kicks in posthumously to make it so whatever caused his death, doesn’t exist. Or the act of him dying doesn’t exist. It works either way (and there’s a difference between the two). This works automatically and requires no effort or will on Kumagawa’s part.
Its pretty much Golden experience requiems return to zero ability but on a FUCKING WHOLE NEW SCALE, as if return to zero was bad enough. This was just bullshit
And hell one more disclaimer, in the story that kumagawa is in, his ability ain’t even the strongest.
No way can bass beat that dude. It don’t matter how many times he tries to use his get ability, All-fiction will instantly destroy bass.exe
Bass is pretty much unbeatable though. I mean I don’t believe in the concept of being completely invincible or anything so don’t get me wrong there but at the same time he is so close that he might as well be. Put it this way, his get ability is broken and his base abilities were already way too much for anyone.
Archie Sonic is super fast but Bass is still faster. Bass would also just copy his abilities in an instant and would take it from there. Now for his limitless speed
One of my favorite panels in the series. He was so fast that everyone was instantly obliterated. Megaman and Protoman couldn’t keep up. Then some more fun calcs
The crazy thing is that you can scale this up to hub style, beast out, dark mode, and more. Bass just keeps getting faster and faster which is super crazy. He’s just not going down.
Giorno would run out of juice so he’s a non factor here. As for the Dragon Ball Heroes characters, they are strong but still a little outmatched physically in terms of strength and speed. Bass would just roll up and take them down. He’s not the kind of guy who goes down easy and would quickly let everyone know where he stands.
Bass was always stronger than Megaman though. It’s really just plot armor that tends to keep Megaman in the winning circle but otherwise he gets absolutely crushed here when it counts.
Ushiromiya would break after Bass is really punching him for a while though. Those punches take their toll and you just don’t want to be getting hit by them forever. After a while he is just going to ask for mercy and you know what? I wouldn’t blame him. I would do the exact same thing if I was put up against Bass, the strongest being in all of fiction. It just wouldn’t feel right otherwise.
Kumagawa was great and the best character in Medaka Box but he has still been overwhelmed by Medaka in the past and isn’t invincible. His physical abilities are low enough where Bass would just crush him. The regen and all fiction wouldn’t be enough to stop him at that point. Bass can just activate his willpower and then he wouldn’t end up being taken down.
I haven’t even gotten into his attack skills like Earthbreaker and Darkness Overload. Bass is just built different here and pretty much has limitless strength. His strength defies understanding and logic
I had already said archie sonic had once reached speeds that were impossible to calculate.
And hell his speed based on protoman’s speculation was light speed, but legit most of the characters i mentioned are light speed.
And you have yet to prove bass.exe’s get ability will work on organic beings, not robot beings like netnavy’s
Also why the hell did you put in a travel speed calc but you decide to deny all of my travel speed feats i give to the others?
Anyway yes megaman.exe racing across the cyber world is impressive, the cyber world is a huge universe meaning he could cover it pretty fast.
But, a dude who’s speed is incalculable is pretty hard to argue against
Even then sonic once raced across the multiverse.
I keep being forced to tell you how ger could negate his abilities.
Second of all so far, megaman.exe and bass have only been shown at least a universal scale, maybe a bit greater, but dragon ball heroes characters like cc goku, xeno trunks and capsule corp vegeta are all multiversal, and maybe even higher.
And plus i already said the keyword could nullify and negate all of bass.exe’s abilities.
Ushiromiya would not slowly start to lose mental will, he would probably be amused by the attempt, cause as long as he does not acknowledge it, he wont get hurt, and hell I’m only talking about his defense.
Kumagawa has lost in his series, tbh its kinda what he is most known for, however in the face of danger he has shown to win even though he claims he losses, sometimes he refers his loss in a different scenario even though its fucking obvious how easily he wins.
So really medaka was kinda spared the fact that he acknowledge himself to lose.
For bass though, he would probably say he losses (he probably says this while bass is legit dead on the floor or not even around. cause he got erased)
Agian you must prove several things
-Bass.exe can use his get ability on organic beings
-Bass.exe is far beyond multiversal
Dude in your own image Knuckles just knocked the living daylights out of Sonic. So much for his super speed. He’s definitely not doing a whole lot against someone like Knuckles. Knuckles is just way too powerful, too strong, and just too overwhelming. This guy is not going down easily. Bass would win in an instant.
Ushiro has never dealt with Bass before. He would lose his gusto really quick. Kumagawa can keep on losing but eventually he will get frustrated and lose for good. There would be no escape for him there. Bass’ get ability has worked on everyone so far so organic aren’t safe either.
He is above multiversal because in base he was FTL and capable of destroying the whole planet. So if you scale up then he can easily destroy everything in his hubstyle and dark modes. There’s a reason why Bass is considered to be the most lethal and powerful fighter the world has ever seen. He is built different.
The dragon ball characters are strong but not fast enough. The problem for all of these guys is that Bass could destroy them in an instant while they are still powering up and that would be game over. Nobody is as fast as Bass which is why I stand by my theory that Bass could destroy all of these guys with ease
Did you not read the whole thing?
First of all “Knocked the living daylights”>
Yet in the next panel we see both continue to fight.
second of all the bottom small panel from the second one was what i was referring to.
The fact that they both are stated to have incalculable speeds puts your statement of “so much for his super speed” into pieces of garbage.
idk how in the world bass would be capable of giving ushiro no will to fight. he legit only has to acknowledge that the attack does not exist.and kumagawa, well he is probably going to say that he loses but in reality he ended up winning.
As for bass’s get ability, the only reason its worked on every net navy is that they’re all robot ai’s. bass is able to copy there data to gain there abilities, now how can you copy the data of something that is organic? organics don’t have data or computer code.
multiversal while impressive and tbh idk if that’s even true, its still not beating archie sonic nor any dbs heroes characters, nor any of the top tier characters from dc or marvel.
hell there are still characters who are omnipotent, which far exceed that of multiversal characters.
Bass going FTL is not really a good argument to make when a lot of characters from different series are already FTL
Trust me I read the whole thing but that panel destroyed all the arguments in an instant. Knuckles landed an absolute doozy of a punch and Sonic was already transformed. If he was that fast then it shouldn’t have been a problem. Way I see it, Knuckles and Sonic are both really fast for sure but that just means the author couldn’t bust out the calculator. It was incalculable for him but not when you take them to other verses. Bass is in a futuristic world with lots of high tech and yet he couldn’t be seen. That’s way more impressive.
Bass would scare the living daylights out of Ushiro. Ushiro’s abilities only work as long as he’s confident in himself and he would lose that confidence quickly. Same with Kumagawa who’s minus abilities just wouldn’t trigger.
Bass is the ultimate life form, a being with more power in a single pinch than many whole universes. His Get Ability isn’t limited to robots, he’s just never needed to use it against anyone else. This is Bass….this is who he is! The ultimate fighter, a being without comparison and someone who will keep fighting until the bigger end. Bass isn’t just FTL, he’s casually FTL. In his base form he could move at that speed so just picture him in his more powerful modes and now you can see why the guy is so busted. Nobody is stopping him, nobody. That’s why he is known as the most powerful being in all of media.
Im pretty sure the author could easily have a team of people calculate what the actual speed would be. If the author specifically states it being incalculable speed, its safe to assume that yes its incalculable speed.
Even then sonic in his base form does have a calculable speed, but definitely not one bass can recreate.
The dude in HIS BASE FORM could throw a water ball in 0.000000000001 milliseconds during that time frame.
and as for bass scaling to megaman.exe who could search the whole universe in under a minute
Sonic could do the same.
And the dude has moved in stopped time before wheras bass.exe has not
and keep in mind, thats fucking base form.
super sonic and ultra sonic just takes his speed to bullshit levels
I dont get how ushiro would lose his cool to ignore attacks when he barely has ever done so.
You claim to say that his get ability is nto limited to robots yet you proceed to not provide evidence for this.
Ok sure he has not used it on organic beings but we already have enough evidence to prove that it wont.
Here is a quote from one of the bass.exe wiki fandoms
“Bass was also installed with a special “Get Ability” program that allows him to assimilate the abilities of deleted viruses and Navis.”
viruses and navis
both of those two being computer programs
Sure they have been able to fight in the real world, but if thats the case then by now you should have shown me proof of bass.exe copying organic beings
And hell even then sonic with his ultrasonic form could simply wish bass dead or simply wish that his get ability wont work.
And even then from what i have seen, bass’s get ability would only work if he has defeated the enemy. at least thats what i have seen.
and archie sonic is just one of the many characters that can beat bass.exe.
A lot of people from this discussion have shown characters that can beat bass, som estupid but others are actually viable.
Those Sonic feats are pretty fun I’ll give you that but then he also still gets outsped by Doctor Eggman and has trouble with foes who are way slower. So we have to consider that this might be Toon Force or a misprint. Bass either way has speed so much faster than FTL that nobody can ever hope to catch it. It’s why he should have the edge here because otherwise who is possibly going to stop him? Sonic is fast and he is talented but Bass has better stats in the end. He’s the more well rounded fighter here.
Bass’ Get Ability also works passively while he is fighting an opponent and even while he is losing so he doesn’t have to win first. That is the best part, it can activate at any time and then suddenly he has the advantage. It’s all very impressive without a doubt. Trust me, Bass is built different. As for showing evidence that it works on humans, that’s the tough part because he has never needed it against a human before. He was just too powerful so it never came up. In a lot of ways you could say this is just the price you pay for being too powerful. If he was a bit weaker then we could have seen this in action but instead he blew past everyone. I still don’t see how Sonic or any other character for that matter could defeat Bass. It just seems to be impossible because the abilities are too great.
Not to overhype Bass or anything but that’s why I always put him at the top. He just seems like the most powerful being without a doubt and that’s saying something.
Where is this proof of him being outsped by dr eggman, based on feats, eggman cant outspeed the blue blurr, nor have i seen any characters who were slower then sonic tag him for a deadly blow.
This version of sonic does not have toon force, where the hell did you get the idea of him having toon force, and if he did have toon force, then bass is really screwed because that only makes sonic even more stronger then he already is. i don’t think the author would misprint a feat like that either and just simply rule it out.
Agian this is just you making things up with no evidence to back it up, in the archie comics sonic faces characters who are beyond what the sonic games have you face. and the villains in the sonic games are already beyond universal.
And you proceed to fail to show me any feats that give bass.exe an edge in combat.
You keep picking out some random outlier in some characters timeline and conclude that there not as fast as what they seem, and that the feat given is irrelevant. When i could easily do the same with bass.exe but you make up some excuse as to why that’s not the case.
The get ability is like a program with megaman.exe and bass.exe, yes they have been able to go into the real world but to be able to copy an organic being’s data, well that’s legit impossible, organic beings don’t have data that can be copied. Even then sonic with his ultra sonic form could easily use his wish granting abilities to wish that the get ability would not work. or hell completely erase bass.exe from existence.
The get ability is strong, but its chained down by the fact that its still a robotic program and has only shown to copy the abilities of other net navi’s, it makes sense as to why it does this.
But even then, bass.exe still does not have any chance
against the blue blurr from the comics, let me break it down for you
First off sonic had tanked a blast capable of erasing people entirely
He had also tanked hits from Mommouth Magul who can destroy Millions of Multiverses with his bare hand
This is already above what bass.exe is capable of.
and hell he did this with his base form.
But of course you say bass.exe is faster, well has he been capable of warpign reality with his speed?
But sonic has
He even has the Billionth Ring Duplicates, Retains, Maintains and Protects Archie Sonic’s Soul, Consciousness and Creates Magical Barriers and Shields Protecting Him From Any Unnatural Phenomenon and Changes and Will Pull Him Out, Take Him back to Where he was as well as restore him, it will override reality if necessary.
He has outraced time before
He can run across an Infinite Multiverse through the Cosmic Interstate
And he can warp an Infinite Multiverse Casually
In case your wondering he was going to utilize Chaos Control to revert the effects of the Super Genesis Wave and were going to warp the multiverse’s dimensional matrix
Meaning that with chaos control he could easily revert the effects of bass.exe get ability or outright get rid of it.
and for some reason he is able to fight his own shadow
and just in case I’m gonna bring up the part where he snatched water and turned it into a snowball before throwing it at 0.000000000001 milliseconds
when archie sonic was fighting archie knuckles the destroyed the zone, which is a universe full of dimensions as well as time and space
This dude has infinite speed, reality warping capable of rewriting multiversus, breaking time and space itself, can manipulate atomic structures and has wish powers, vs a guy who, while is comparable to megaman.exe who is low multiversal, with speed feats to run across a whole universe, and a get ability which can copy just about any net navi program, he is still going to fail, especially if the get ability would never work in the first place because sonic is an organic being
and you yet to show proof of get ability actually working on organic beings.
But even if that were the case, archie sonic would easily revert the get ability or completely wish you and your get ability out of existence.
So you may ask why does he never use these insane feats to easily kill eggman.
The thing is that fighting eggman was the one thing that gave him a sense of pride, he felt much better being able to battle eggman on a daily basis, hence why he never uses his insane feats on him.
Basically, sonic just wants eggman around as a fun punching bag or something to do.
So yes while bass.exe’s get ability is insane and has low multiversal feats with his hub form and all his other forms, they wont be enough to stop this version of the blue blurr, that long with the blue blurr’s two lookalikes shadow and silver.
Check this out
This is multiple scenes where Eggman keeps outrunning Sonic over and over again. I’m telling you it’s not even close. Now granted this is for comedy so I’m not seriously suggesting Sonic is slower than Eggman but what I’m showing is that his speed’s not quite as infinite as it appears. Bass has much better feats like speedblitzing Megaman and Protoman at the same time.
Remember that he apparently defeated 100 enemies in a fraction of a second in his initial appearance and that was before Hubstyle and Dark Mode and Beast Out. His speed is incalcuable and that’s why he beats Sonic.
Sonic’s speed in those scenes you posted was really good but some of those are more in the comedic nature of toon force like running on the fabric of the universe and passing infinity. You always have to ask why he doesn’t use this to just win and the answer isn’t quite as simple as he just doesn’t want to destroy Eggman. It’s because he can’t just access the speed like that. Sonic has a whole lot of limits to his speed and it takes him time to build up. Even in the comics that’s why you see enemies constantly escape and land hits on him.
His combat speed isn’t nearly on the same level as the others that’s for sure. Bass has really shown himself in combat. As for the Get Ability, you have to keep in mind that the ability works on anyone Bass chooses. He just never had a reason to use it on any organics because he can destroy them in an instant. He won’t matter who the opponent is because it activates passively as he’s hit so he can just keep getting stronger as he fights.
Cool so not only is this game sonic, where its completely different from Archie sonic
But there running in places where eggman has placed several traps and walls to slow him down.
You showed me game sonic, not archie sonic, game sonic does not have infinite speed, archie sonic has proven he does and its been stated several times and shown several times.
One during that fight with knuckles
One where he could move in stopped time
One where he somehow warped reality
I showed you all these 3 previously please go revisit them
“Remember that he apparently defeated 100 enemies in a fraction of a second in his initial appearance and that was before Hubstyle and Dark Mode and Beast Out. His speed is incalcuable and that’s why he beats Sonic.”
You just calculated it right now, not sure if its accurate but none the less you legit just calculated it right now so why is it incalcuable?
Congratulations you played yourself
Sure bass.exe is DEFINETLY MFTL, but archie sonic still has better feats to make him superior
For sonic’s speed feats, i assure you, He can access them whenever he pleases, he has had way more consistent showings of his better speed feats that put him on a level greater then bass.exe
archie sonic does not have access to toon force either, Only characters like spongebob, bugs bunny, popeye and gumball have access to them, probably because they are cartoons while archie sonic is a comic character
Sorry to say this but that is the truth, realistically eggman is the only villain sonic can mess around with, if he just blitzes eggman instantly whats the point?
Sonic wont have anyone else to fight or mess around with
I already showed you proof of this being true, yet you somehow come up with the excuse to say sonic cant use his true speed when his feats say otherwise.
Already showed you sonic was faster in combat then bass.exe thanks to his speed feat with knuckles.
No need to establish that anymore, thats done
As for the get ability
Im pulling this definition out
“Get Ability Program: Ironically enough, Bass.EXE wields the Classic Continuity Mega Man’s most famous ability, the ability to copy attacks he encounters. As a result, any program he defeats and absorbs becomes a part of him, allowing him to wield said power as he pleases. He has amassed an enormous number of attacks along with his incredible strength, speed, and durability as a result of this ability. He was even able to assimilate the handcuffs designed to completely nullify his powers.”
Now lets highlight these words
“any program he defeats and absorbs becomes a part of him”
Pretty fucking obvious that not only does bass have to defeat the enemy first, but they have to be a program
Sonic is not a netnavi or program, and i searched and i could not find any evidence of bass being capable of doing this to organic beings.
Therfore, bass cannot use his get ability on archie sonic, and even if he could, he would have to defeat sonic first.
Bass.exe is a low multiversal fighter
But sonic is around the low complex multiversal stage, maybe even hyperversal