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Mewtwo vs Greymon


Omnimon and Mewtwo
Greymon has his Omnimon form which is easily one of the strongest Digimon in existence while Mewtwo is the strongest Pokemon in existence. (Passing Deoxys thanks to his new Mega form) These two fighters are immensely powerful and it would be a great battle of destructive proportions. That being said, Mewtwo’s speed in his Mega form will be what changes the tides of battle. Omnimon has a lot of attack power and his beams may even be able to overtake Mewtwo’s, but Mewtwo has the decisive edge in speed which will lead to his victory. Mewtwo wins.

Update: May 29th 2014. Omnimon may not be enough, but Greymon does possess Shining Greymon and its Ruin Mode along with the Crimson form. That will be enough to take down Mewtwo in the long run. Greymon wins.

Original image found in the link below. Drawn by Nyiaj

Mewtwo VS Omnimon

112 thoughts on “Mewtwo vs Greymon”

  1. I will agree that mewtwo will beat greymon, but not omnimon. Omnimon is a god tier digimon and when he becomes omnimon x, he can destroy a universe. I doubt that mewtwo would be able to mind control him. Besides, digimon can’t die.

    1. It’s a tough call. Omnimon is powerful, but he lacks Mewtwo’s speed thanks to his Mega form. Telepathy wouldn’t really be a factor, but Mewtwo’s physical abilities are his biggest strength. Digimon can definitely die; a solid attack will do the job. Mewtwo has the edge with his raw speed and power!

  2. Can you please show me a feat that shows mewtwo’s raw strength that didn’t use any other ability, just strength?

    1. That’s tough because Mewtwo usually uses his abilities to help.

      He basically took out an island by powering up, which is impressive and he made a storm that nearly destroyed the entire world. In his Mega form, his speed and power exponentially increase as well

  3. You said that mewtwo’s physical abilities are his biggest strength. What you showed me was mewtwo using his psychic power to destroy an island. That is not physical power. Omnimon is easily more physically powerful than mewtwo. http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Omegamon this proves that. Mewtwo at best can destroy a planet, but omnimon can destroy a universe.

    1. Omnimon can destroy a universe, but that’s not completely physical. If Mewtwo uses all of his abilities, I’m confident that he could match such a feat. Either way, his speed is much higher tier than Omnimon’s and his psychic abilities/hand to hand haven’t failed him yet. I really can’t see Mewtwo going down against just about any fighter. He’s too powerful! Omnimon is a very powerful opponent though. If not for the speed difference, then he would likely take the lead

    1. According to them. Remember, most sites don’t even list Bass EXE as a planet buster and he could take out the DBZ franchise. We tend to have differing opinions when it comes to the high end fighters

  4. The vs battles wiki is easily the most accurate battle forum on the web. If you’ve explored the site you would understand why. The site lists Naruto as a large country level. Other sites, like MVC, view him like you view bass; an omnipotent being that can kill anyone. That is why you can always trust it and is also why Omnimon will beat mewtwo.

    1. The site definitely seems fun and it’s good to have the feats in an easily accessible location. That being said, I’d place Naruto as a Planet Buster at this point and I’ve had him there for a long time. They’re underrating him. I won’t deny that Omnimon is also a planet buster, but I would say that he’s a little out of his league against Mewtwo. That new film really skyrocketed him in terms of power and feats

  5. The feats mewtwo has shown in the first movie were greater than those he (or she ) showed in the new movie. He ( or she ) wasn’t able to destroy islands like he ( or she ) did in the first movie. Besides that, would speed even matter. Mewtwo can teleport but omnimon can just warp space and time to stop him from doing so. Plus, omnimon has fought digimon who were faster than light, universe destroyers, and even immensely haxxed characters. Mewtwo would be a challenge. But in the end, omnimon would win thanks to his experience and abilities. And I am getting tired of going back and forth between this page and the pikachu vs terriermon page.

    1. True, it’s easy for me since all of the threads are in the same place on the Admin page 😛 Why not make an account on WordPress so that they’re all sent to your notification settings? It will also help your posts to be auto approved so that you don’t have to wait until they’re moderated each time. Just a suggestion.

      See, that’s where I differ from most debaters. The first film is considered to be more impressive for Mewtwo, but I strongly disagree. Mewtwo matched those feats in raw power when he stopped Genesect’s full powered charge without any effort. The speed still matters because teleportation isn’t as good. Constantly teleporting isn’t efficient and you have to think about where you’re going to go. Speed does it all in one. Omnimon has fought many powerful opponents, but none quite like Mewtwo. His Mega Form would make quite the difference

  6. Yo, Dreager1, You are half correct.
    mega Mewtwo could smash Omnimon in games, but not in storyline.
    This proves one part for power:

    This is omnimons power (and others)
    http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Omegamon
    So mega mewtwo is strong enough to destroy a dwarf star.
    Omnimon is strong enough to litteraly obliterate universes.
    Virtually this guy was able to kill 4 million planet destroying Mega level Diaboromon, which = about 800,000 Mega mewtwos, in (3??) shots of his left hand.
    He somehow managed to defeat things that moved at a infinite speed (what)
    His armour is chrome digizoid (immune to all elemental attacks, Including psycic and being erased from existence.)
    This is what mewtwo could defeat:
    Agumon (massivly)
    Greymon(massivly)
    Metalgreymon(largley)
    Wargreymon(be quite hard for mewtwo)
    Shinegreymon(Maybe?)
    Rizegreymon( Probs be a Tai (hahahaimsofunny2funny4yeee))
    That is really all he could beat.
    Have a Gutlichen Tag/Nacht!

    1. Well, I don’t really trust Death Battle since they seem to bungle all of their fights, Omnimon is definitely extremely powerful. I can definitely see him having the edge on Mewtwo in strength. I believe Mewtwo is probably still a bit faster, possibly in his Mega Mode, but Greymon has so many good forms over the years that some of them are very good with speed. It’s just a little too much for Mewtwo.

      1. Okay, so do you change your mind about this fight?
        I actually calculated Normal mewtwos speed by watching the first and 2nd movies, and his normal speed is about 13090 mph. However, his mega form is rather fast. Screwattack got this right actually, it was over 26000 mph that was mega mewtwos speed. Either way, his speed is nowhere near omnimons. If he could move faster than the speed of light, he would have litterally flingd that genesecet into another world at the same time, beating all the others up in a plank time unit. So sadle, I doubt mewtwo has the edge in speed.
        Omnimon is full on broken. Nothing could survive this bastard if it was from the Pokeworld.
        He can physically hit so hard, his flick can rip through Chrome Digizoid (400 cm thick).
        Chrome digizoid takes over 30,000,000 tonnes of force to Penetrate a millimeter. So 30 mill times 4000…..
        His weapon power is universe destoying at minimum.
        However, this guy managed to hurt the MOTHER EATER, which has the power to destroy everyting in every universe.
        Can block universe destroying attacks without flinching
        Oh, also has an attack called All Delete, did you see that one?
        See, this guy is litterally Universal in all ways. Mewtwo is probs planet level. I am sorry to say this, but mewtwo will die in an attack, a flick even. There is no comparing this intentionally broken monster to mewtwo-no, any pokemon.
        Mewtwo is out of his leauge to the power of 666.
        Sorry!
        BUT
        You could put Mewtwo against Piedmon and his gang or
        Apocolymon, those would be his level.
        Or put Wargreymon\Flamdramon and his evolutions against Rayquaza, another even fight.

      2. Oh, well I do have that Greymon won in the summary. It looks like Mewtwo did at first, but if you read the full summary it includes the update where Greymon took the win a while back.

        I still think he has the edge in speed though. Keep in mind that most Digimon stats are buffed since they’re in the digital world and appear to be light speed through their internet connection. Watch Omnimon in Digimon Tri or in the original movie and you’ll see that he is nowhere near that level of speed. Mewtwo would be speedblitzing him all day. Greymon only wins this fight because of his Digimon Data Squad forms like RizeGreymon which I find to be more impressive than Omnimon. The vast majority of Digimon wouldn’t stand a chance against Mewtwo, it’s just a select few who can take him on.

      3. Omegamon is a Holy Knight Digimon and a member of the Royal Knights and the product of the merging of the Virus Hunters WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon, due to the powerful desires of everyone to do good. It is a Digimon that has combined the skills of both bodies, so it’s a multipurpose warrior able to demonstrate the full capacity no matter what situation it finds itself in. It is equipped with a sword and shield in his left hand which is shaped WarGreymon, and a cannon and missiles in his right hand is shaped MetalGarurumon. The layer bearing equipped on his back when dodging enemy attacks unfolds. Its special technique is to freeze its opponent with frigid blasts reaching absolute zero, from its cannon arm, the Garuru Cannon. Its left arm is equipped with the invincible Grey Sword.

        Powers and Stats
        Tier: At least 3-A, likely Low 2-C | At least 2-A. Likely High 2-A | At least 2-A, likely High 2-A | At least 2-A, likely High 2-A

        Name: Omnimon/Omegamon

        Origin: Digimon Adventure: Our War Game

        Gender: Male

        Age: Varies between media – Said to be 10,000+ years old in Digimon Chronicle/Digimon D-Cyber

        Classification: Ultimate/Mega-Level Exalted Knight Digimon Level Digimon, Royal Knight, Jogress/DNA Digimon, Anomaly

        Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Flight, Can absorb data, can become more powerful by absorbing data, Data Manipulation, Precognition, Fire Manipulation, Can shoot out frigid rounds at a temperature of Absolute Zero from the Garuru Cannon, Enhanced Senses (able to track people across the world and other dimensions), Can travel to concurrent universes (Can open voids to the Real World from the Digital World in Savers/Data Squad), can create holes in dimensions with his energy blasts, Can BFR people to other dimensions, Resistance to Spatial Manipulation, Reality Warping, Time Manipulation, Information Manipulation, Death Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Soul Manipulation and Existence Erasure (Survived existence erasure by the likes of ZeedMillenniummon), Acausality (Survived the All Delete. Tanked a point blank attack that reset the entire timeline with no affects), Statistics Amplification, Self Information Manipulation and Reactive Evolution via Overwrite. | Wields the “Omega Gain-Force”, providing almost perfect combat Precognition and endless stamina, can use All Delete for the complete deletion of a universe and re-create it – can delete/reset individual beings as well, etc, Durability Negation, Existence Erasure.

        Attack Potency: At least Universe level, likely Universe level+ (Dispatched Gallantmon, whose dark side is capable of destroying universes just by existing. Should be superior to Lilithmon, who distorted the space-time continuum of an entire Zone, and was said to have destroyed many others) | At least Multiverse level+, likely High Multiverse level+ (Vastly stronger than before. Should be as strong as his Cyber Sleuth counterpart as they are the same Omegamon.), All Delete ignores conventional durability | At least Multiverse level+, likely High Multiverse level+ (Helped defeat the Mother Eater, which could affect “all worlds”, referring to an infinite number of universes and also gained the abilities and power of Yggdrasil.) | At least Multiverse level+, likely High Multiverse level+ (One of the strongest Royal Knights, can trade blows with his fellow knights who can survive being deleted by the likes of ZeedMillenniummon, albeit barely)

        Speed: FTL (On par with Dynasmon and Crusadermon who can keep pace with MagnaGarurumon). Possibly Infinite (Capable of matching Demon Lord class Digimon, who are natives of the Dark Area, which is without time) | Immeasurable | Immeasurable (Fought the Mother Eater, who could destroy at least one universe in a single attack and was consistently stated to be a higher dimensional being. Can easily dispatch with basic Eaters, who have no concept of time) | Immeasurable (Comparable to Alphamon, who transcended space and time. Regularly travels throughout the past, present and future to access the terminals in Pendulum-X)

        Lifting Strength: Likely Universal (Should be comparable, if not stronger than Leviamon) | Immeasurable | Immeasurable via power-scaling (At least comparable to Yuugo Kamishiro) | Immeasurable

        Striking Strength: At least Universal, likely Universal+ (Kept the Digital World and the Human World apart along with several other Royal Knights, traded blows with other enemies on his level) | At least Multiversal+, likely High Multiversal+ | At least Multiversal+, likely High Multiversal+ (Hurt the Mother Eater) | At least Multiversal+, likely High Multiversal+

        Durability: At least Universe level, likely Universe level+ (Easily parried all of Gallantmon’s attacks) | At least Multiverse level+, likely High Multiverse level+ (Largely unaffected by the reset of the Digital World) | At least Multiverse level+, likely High Multiverse level+ (Tanked attacks from the Mother Eater, which could affect an infinite number of universes) | At least Multiverse level+, likely High Multiverse level+ (Should be comparable, if not somewhat superior than Dynasmon, who barely survived a confrontation with ZeedMillenniummon)

        Stamina: Limitless (Omega InForce keeps him at maximum fighting capacity indefinitely)

        Range: Dozens of meters in melee with due to sheer size and the Grey Sword, at least tens of kilometers with projectiles. | Potentially Multiversal with All Delete (reset the Digital World, though it’s uncertain whether this came as a result of the attack or from Yggdrasil’s destruction)

        Standard Equipment: Grey Sword (Transcendent Sword): A powerful sword marked with ancient Runes. It is strong enough to deflect hundreds of Catastrophe Cannon blasts from the Ultimate/Mega Digimon Diaboromon (Also an Attack), Garuru Cannon (Supreme Cannon): A powerful Cannon that can shoot energy blasts powerful enough to destroy entire mountains and Armies of lesser Ultimate/Mega Digimon. It can also be used to fire an absolute zero blast of icy energy much like MetalGarurumon, his cape, which enables him to fly and allows him to block attacks as severe as Absolute Zero with ease | X Antibody

        Intelligence: Omegamon is an expert swordsman and marksman who holds seniority over many of the Royal Knights and a capable tactician. He can easily fend off attacks from other powerful Megas like WarGreymon X and MetalGarurumon X and defeated Gallantmon within the span of seconds and is recognized as one of the most skilled and powerful amongst the Royal Knights as a whole. However, he is absolutely loyal to Yggdrasil and will follow his orders to the letter unless he is given solid evidence to do so otherwise.

        Weaknesses: Nothing notable

      1. Also, you know how you said Bass is the strongest cahrecter in all of media?
        Yeah, I read all of megaman (twice) and bass is nowhere near Arceus/Mewtwo/Raquaza level. The best thing he has done was survive the hubblast. (unknown level of power) And he is nowhere the top digimon level. This means
        Royal knights
        Greymon\Garurumon post Mega digivolutions
        Eaters
        Seven deadly sins
        Zeedmilleniumon
        NEO
        Mother eater
        Yggdrassil
        GOD
        and other 1H-2J things.
        Just sayin.

      2. Read it a 3rd time. Bass is way above the others and easily deserves his spot at the top. Put it this way….Bass has taken on opponents far mightier than any other. Megaman.EXE couldn’t even match up to Bass and that is insane. Trust me when I say that Megaman is supremely powerful. To lose to Bass is scary and shows what the guy can really do.

      1. How strong is megaman exe again?
        Speed: FTL (On par with Dynasmon and Crusadermon who can keep pace with MagnaGarurumon). Possibly INFINITE (Capable of matching Demon Lord class Digimon, who are natives of the Dark Area, which is without time) | Immeasurable | Immeasurable (Fought the Mother Eater, who could destroy at least one universe in a single attack and was consistently stated to be a higher dimensional being. Can easily dispatch with basic Eaters, who have no concept of time) | Immeasurable (Comparable to Alphamon, who transcended space and time. Regularly travels throughout the past, present and future to access the terminals in Pendulum-X)
        Read that mate. Infinite speed.
        Bass does not have that. He also does not have superhuman strengh, he mainly focuses on speed as you should know.
        Although he is strong.
        And no, data squad didn’t show it all off. It was Adventure tri and the fight with Mothre eater-NEO that showed it off.
        WATCH TRI NOW IT IS AWSOME

      2. Well, Megaman’s speed is basically infinitely FTL. His strength is crazy strong since he was able to damage Bass. I don’t really think any fighters can keep up with him, certainly no Digimon.

        You sure? They looked really good in Data Squad and that’s what got me to be a fan. I saw Tri episode 1, but I’m waiting for the Dub to be out for the others. I’m definitely looking forward to seeing what happens.

  7. IN the nebula arc, Bass almost died to not even a planet buster. He needed megamans power to win against Nebula grey. It proves it in the Nebula saga. Not just that, nebula blocked the attack and split Bass and megaman, almost killing bass again because he got bit by him. It took megamans full powered Double soul to kill Nebula grey. No help from bass. Megaman is not planet buster level. And megaman is now more powerful, because he beat bass twice in a row.

    1. Wait a minute, Bass would have clobbered Nebula Grey if he didn’t keep lowering his guard. Bass is the strongest guy around. Bass was wrecking Nebula Grey. Megaman is definitely a planet buster btw. He’s not as strong as Bass but he is one of the strongest beings in all of media.

      1. Actually, no. He was fighting full force against nebbs and lost very quickly. Otherwise, why would they fuse?

        http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Bass.EXE
        So this is Basses full strengh.
        Tier: At least 3-A, likely Low 2-C | At least 2-A. Likely High 2-A | At least 2-A, likely High 2-A | At least 2-A, likely High 2-A
        This is omegamons.
        At max, bass cann destroy a universe.
        Omegamon can destroy thousands of joined universes.
        http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/MegaMan.EXE
        Megaman can be as strong as bass with his attacks.
        Also, another game to play to prove my omnimon power theory even further: Cyber squad. In there, something has killed off Yggdrasill and becomethe leader of the royal knights (omnion and alpha\bastard\mon)
        There we are.

      2. Bass was just being considerate. We both know he could have wrecked Nebula Grey if he really wanted to. He’s just a real stand up guy if you ask me. Cyber Squad was an awesome game though I gotta admit. It’s quite possibly the best Digimon game out there.

      3. Ps. They put bass. EXE against a digimon (vs battles) and it was like some digimon starting with an S, but they said they would both be equal in a fight (considering bass. EXE gets his power nerfed because the digimon got nerfed (the digimon power that got nerfed was an erase from existence thing. And this digimon….
        was lower than omegamon. And Lucemon too.
        BY about 500x.

      4. Sorry, you are right and wrong. Bass. EXE could have won easily, but his head on stupidity cost him that power. Without his EXE, Bass was helpless. Then when he fused with megaman EXE, they both curbstomped Nebbs. Until Bass split cos he is a arrogant retard, and then he got absorbed. THE END

      1. No he did not.

        [Iris summons Bass so he could participate in battle to decide who is the strongest Navi. He protected MegaMan from Falzar’s attack and then absorbed it in himself. He then challenged MegaMan to fight him now that both of them had acquaired Cyber Beast powers. However, Falzar is not completely absorbed by Bass due to its great power and remove part of himself from Bass and merges with Gregar. Bass goes to fight Falzar and Gregar, but was surprised when they are transported into the real world. Unfazed, Bass attacks the Cyber Beast, but the Cyber Beast was unschated and immediately defeated Bass.] MegaMan then appears and attacks the Cyber Beast with the Ultimate Program, seemingly overpowering him, much to Bass’ astonishment.

        This didn’t last long once the Cyber Beast started to absorb the real world into the Cyber World, with only MegaMan, Lan, and himself remaining. Bass confronts MegaMan, telling him to give up since it was already too late. Satisfied that he could watch the end of mankind, he challenges MegaMan to finish their battle. Disappointed with Bass’ answer, MegaMan goes to confront the Cyber Beast, having yet to give up hope. Bass wonders if this is really the ending he had been hoping for.

        Bass finally decides to assist MegaMan in defeating the Cyber Beast, claiming that he will watch his deletion with his own eyes. Once they finally reach the core of the Cyber Beast, they are stopped by the last defense system of the Cyber Beast. When all hope seems lost, MegaMan’s friends stopped the Cyber Beast’s movement before it could devour them. Serenade then appears in front of Bass, telling him to give all of his power to his only true friend, MegaMan. Hearing this, Bass interjects that MegaMan is his enemy and breaks free from the defense system. Gathering all the powers he has gathered throughout his life, Bass gave it to MegaMan to give him enough energy to move, telling MegaMan to win as he disappears.

        See? He was hurt and defeated (again)
        And I found out the results of the battle between Dynastymon and Bass.EXE.
        Who did you think won?

      2. I dunno what text you’re following, but that one seemed rather inaccurate. Bass rekt Falzar and then wanted to fight Megaman. He could have rekt everybody else, but was more interested in his rematch. Bass is still the strongest.

        I assume that Bass won right? Dynastymon wouldn’t last a second against him.

  8. Yes, bass won, and however he won by speed alone. Otherwise, dynasty Mon may would win because of his other feats. Dynastymon has higher attack power, and armour and has more powerful attacks in general. But bass is over 60 x his speed, and so….
    Bass would win by that.
    But alphamon would curbstomp bass.
    After all, I he is the leader of the royal knights!

    1. Good to see that he took the win. Trust me, power doesn’t matter when the speed difference is so vast. Bass would be running rings around Dynastymon and he would be able to do it with ease. No Digimon can hope to match his speed..even Alphamon. Trust me, Bass is just a little too fast for any of these guys.

      1. Yes, I agree wwith that. None of the normal royal knights could even touch him (except magnadramon and Imperialdramon Pm\Fm, because they have mimic abilities)
        But if you actually played cyber squad, you should know Alphamon is not a normal Royal knight. He is the leader of the royal knights, and he has the power of two of them (quickly beat omegamon in 50 seconds). What makes him extremely deadly though is that he has an ability called Alpha inForce, which would rewind time backwards to a point which no other knows. This ability allows him to go back 10 seconds in time with his memories of what would have happned if he did this, but everyone else forgets everyting from the warp in time. So alphamon could allow himself to get hit by bass, go
        back 10 seconds, then when he does that attack again, bass wouldn’t even know what hit him, because he wold be dead.
        Alphamon is Multiversal + in the Vs wiki. (he survived mother eaters 10% attack, holy hell).
        The things he is better than bass in:
        Attack power: He is about minimum a multiverse i would say. A multiverse contains at least more than one universe, so about 2+ universes. So minimum 2x more power than bass.
        Speed: Bass s 30 times faster. Bass wins there.
        Brute strengh: Alphamon can lift universes. Bass is superhuman. Who wins?
        Defense: Can survive being hit by the mother eater at 10%,
        who can destroy thousands of multiverses. Bass can block only about the big bang (survived alpha). Alpha wins there ba a longshot.
        Stamina: Idk, i think they have both infinite
        Range: Universe for alphamon. Hundreds of K’s for bass.
        Broken as abilities:
        BTW, the get ability only works against defeated enemies,
        So:
        Bass:
        Darkness overload
        Gregar and falzer attacks
        Alphamon:
        All of them.
        You should really consider this, maybe your bass isn’t the strongest of them all.
        Holy hell, that took long to write. Please don’t just ignore this.

      2. Alphamon is good, but he’s no Bass. It was a good writeup minus the end, but I toned it down a bit to keep your comment family friendly. Bass is just too fast for Alphamon and far too powerful. His Get Ability ensures victory and trust me, Bass really is the strongest of them all.

      3. I just said, his get ability does not work that way. He needs to defeat an enemy to use it.
        It does not matter about speed when the opponent knows the next move and is better in every other way (look on vs wiki alphamon and bass .exe)
        Chrome digizoid will absorb all his attacks, as they are immune to every element. And you know bass is weaker in physical strengh, cmon. Otherwise you never finished cyber squad. Bass has never done feats like destroy millions of universes. And don’t say he will, because he cannot. As a Megaman fan and a digimon fan, I am closing my case.

      4. No, he copied Megaman’s Hubstyle just from getting punched a few times. All he needs is contact and he is good. I’m a big Megaman and Digimon fan as well, but the latter simply cannot compete. They are completely out of their league.

      1. It wouuld take one punch to kill bass. One punch.
        And yes, there is a digimon who is faster.
        Shoutmon Superior X7 Mode.
        I will never give up arguing until I win, Yknow?

      2. Nah man, you underestimate Bass. As for Shoutmon, he’s too big to be fast. He would be lumbering after Bass, but to no avail

      3. No, you overestimate Bass.
        And I proved how bass is weaker than Alphamon by Vs wiki.
        And what rock do you live under? Shoutmon has all the speed of every digimon combined. Meaning over 300x the speed of light. Bass is 60x.
        Not just that, he is 1c on the vs wiki.
        Bass is 3a. Have a look. You cannot disprove these facts.
        And if you say that wiki is fake and unreliable, tell that to 15 people who work on that wiki day and night who use their best of abilities to find out the different strenghs and weaknesses about these charecters.
        So do not come back with another, “UNDERESTIMATE” quote. And actually prove it. If you think you are smarter than me, prove it.
        I will never stop until I know I am gone.

      4. I live under a big rock tbh. As for Shoutmon having every speed combined, that’s more hype than anything else. I’d like to see him try and outrun Bass. Also, show me the calcs to say that Bass is only 60x. Bass is essentially infinitely FTL if you ask me. Alphamon can’t handle Bass either. You underestimate Bass. He’s the Darkloid of legend, he’s the Big Cheese. Bass never backs down from a fight and he looked amazing in the manga. I’m pretty sure we’ll never see a fighter with his level of talent and dedication again. It’s tragic, but it’s just how it has to be. Honestly I’m not sure what other proof you want at this point, I think we’ve used them all already.

      5. Time to debunk this:
        If bass was infinitely FTL, I really do not see how like 6 different enemies defeated him (2 with the minisculest of effort). Not just that, You seem to be ignoring the vs wiki. Bass is weaker than Alphamon on the wiki in almost every way, so do not complain. Not just that, you are bieng a hypocrite. Saying that shoutmon is the biggest hype I have ever heard. Says the one who thinks bass is the most powerful. Yeah, I think no one else agrees with you here. I already know over 40+ digimon who could smash him to kingdom come. Want me to name them? Go ahead.

      6. You have to factor in plot hax. I’m not ignoring the Vs. Wiki, but it is just people using feats to try and guess where the characters stand up. As such, it doesn’t matter for characters like Bass as I have already seen him in all of his various versions in media. There is nothing they can say that I do not already know. There are no Digimon who can beat Bass, Bass is too fast…and too powerful.

      7. And the calcs for Shoutmon X7 superior mode:
        Shoutmon has all the speed and power of all digimon with the monn suffix at the end (except the Royal knights, the 7 great demon lords and Zeedmilleniumon)
        So:
        83 ftl
        17 Ftl + (2-5)
        1 massivly ftl(10-49)
        Min: 127 ftl
        Max: 236

      8. I don’t think he really has all of that though. Show me a scan of him actually moving that fast. He’s just trying to scare the villains.

      9. Show me a scan of bass moving that fast.
        Then if you know that much, you should know that bass. exe is universe level-oh wait.
        None of the new digimon villans know fear. This guy defeated someone in their own dimension!
        Which defies speed, so rip bass.

      10. He moved so fast that even Megaman was startled. Digimon do know fear, they just haven’t met enough opponents who could beat them. Nothing ultimately defies speed. Bass speedblitzes everyone and just keeps on ticking. Nobody can hope to challenge his might.

      11. Tell that to zeedmilleniumon, lucemon, the 7 great demon lords and NEO, in their dimensions they all make time irrelivent. Therefore, speed irrelevent. And I think they do not know fear (i said the new villans, not the old frigi——digimon))
        Oh yeah, you will see less of me, it is my holiday and I am with my bro, so it will be hard to comment.
        AAAAAANNNNNNND
        Show us a scan of megaman moving that fast.

      12. Everyone aside from Bass feels fear. Trust me, they just haven’t fought a guy like him before. Even if you’re in another dimension you can still be speedblitzed.

        Gotcha, no worries the blog isn’t going anywhere.

        The scan works both ways, look at who Megaman was actually fighting.

      13. But as I said, this is a dimension withoiut speed.
        And saying trust me like 1000 times will not change my mind.
        Ansd never say that. If megaman feels fear, bass feels fear. They ar very close tiers together.
        And the royal knights do not know fear when they fight an enemy (only if they try to destroy everything or hurt Yggdrasil). As you know, they knew they were going to get erased when they fought zeed, but they did it anyway. And bass does have a fear, losing to megaman or losing in general. That is why he became so much more powerful than Megaman. EXE. It is the only reason, actually. Without it, he would be clutterfunked by even Protoman. You should know this as a megaman fan, not everything is about getting engineered and gaining power from it.
        And alphamon could beat bass because Alpha inForce.
        You keep forgetting about it, and I underestimated it.
        It is much more powerful than I thought, and with everything better than bass. EXE other than speed, he will get nailed to the wall.

      14. You gotta trust me though. Bass doesn’t listen to rules like that. We’re on a neutral playing field so concepts like speed are still in play. Bass doesn’t feel fear the way that other characters do. The Royal Knights would be backing up in fear of Bass from the start. Bass is way stronger than Alphamon. Bass is too fast and too powerful. He’s the greatest in all of media!

      15. Oh, a neutral playing field.
        No, keep thinking that bass would scare the royal knights. All they have to do is use their most broken danm hax and rip apart bass. Their hax are:
        Omegamon: If anything touches him or gets touched, he deletes it from existence (he is not allowed in here because of that, I read the rules)
        UforceVeedramon: The only way to kill him is disintergrate atoms, which is impossible. Or just erase him from existence.
        Magnamon: Can think anything during battle and it happnes, like bass does something stupid which leads to his defeat (for like the 7th time). Not just that, he can make his armour immune to physical attacks.
        GAllantmon: Shoots an undodgeable beam that sends the enemy into a unbreakable dimension at all costs.
        Jesmon: Uses its ability and becomes more powerful than its opponent in every way. So rip bass by 9000000 miles.
        Imperialdramon PM: I do not want to explain this one.
        Alphamon:

        Alphamon
        Alphamon Render By Skodwarde
        If Omnimon (made more obvious by his aforementioned Japanese name) represents the end, Alphamon represents the beginning. By beginning, I mean resetting the battle all the way back to the beginning, since Alphamon’s Save Scumming ability gives Determination users a run for their money. His power is known as the Alpha InForce, allowing him to repeat his actions as many times as he desires for as long as he desires. Sounds simple right? But this one’s a doozy.

        To put it concisely, this ability allows Alphamon to warp causality to re-do his attacks an infinite number of times in an instant, allowing him to essentially attack an infinite number of times in an infinite number of points in space, rendering his attacks virtually impossible to dodge. In addition, this ability allows him to re-do the entire battle as many times as he wishes (usually when he would be defeated), making it virtually impossible to outright defeat him unless someone is able to use some amazingly high-tier Reality Warping, which he is known to have serious resistance to since he’s unfazed by the Reality Warping, Information Manipulation, and Conceptual Manipulation abilities of Multiversal+ entities. All of these things happen so fast that outside observers would think that his opponent was instantly felled in a single stroke.

        Holy mother of god.
        And to think they have been shown doing these things….
        DEar god.
        Another note to send off:
        You are becoming too predictable with what you say, so it is really easy to send you off again. You keep Boasting about bass being the most powerful without solid proof.
        When I am.
        If you are going to keep saying these things, I might retire from this. You are starting to get boring to argue with. I don’t really care what you think, I just argue for the fun of it, or the thrill, rather. You are starting to get easy. At least think when you type.

      16. Heh, you are just irritating. Always saying the same thing without evidence.
        I got better from The truth hurts, an 11 year old. He had solid facts about our discussion.
        To me, you were before a 7\10, but now you are a 2\10.
        The only reason you think you are hard to argue with is because you keep being persistent about Bass is the strongest. Tbh, I am rather dissapointed. I thought you would be better than this at arguing with someone who was in the Pokemon\Digimon war. I know people who would show so much evidence, you would either give in or delete their comment. Really, not kidding.
        The only reason why people consider you hard is that you show the same things over and over again. That is really all of it. So do not argue when you know you have found an opponent who will never give up.
        And yet again you didnt think by writing just (BASSH IST DER STREWNGUST THOUGGGHEU)
        And by strongest you mean fastest, out of the royal knights right?
        The only one I see that could get to his speed is UlforceVeedramon.
        And I admit I am not sure of that.
        Lel, bass cv

      17. At least I’m still a 2 though. You claim here that you will never give up but in your latest comment you hinted that you might give up since you were getting bored. Trust me, in the long run everyone gives up or simply leaves. It is inevitable.

      18. Retire is different from giving up, I meant for a while, as I do t his for fun.
        This is how the challange rating is rated:
        0: Get off of this
        1-2: You need lots of work
        3-5 You need some work
        6-7 you need little work
        8-9 Almost average
        10: Average
        11-15: Above average
        16-20: High average
        21-25: Adept
        26-30: Above adept
        31-35: High adept
        36-40: Expert
        40- 50: Above expert
        51-60: High expert
        61-70: Journeyman
        71-80: Master
        81-90: Above master
        91-99: High master
        100: Invincible
        Did I say 2\10?I mean 2\100.
        Tbh, you are more of a 14 on countering, a 13 on placing writing down, a 2 on placing evidence, a 38 for confidence and a 1 for going off topic (i do that too, do not worry)
        There fore, you are a 14\100 (almost).
        what are we even talking about anymore

      19. Personally I’d put myself at 100 tbh.

        Maybe the Big Mac? I had 3 of them in the last week and feel pretty crispy. I think it’s healthier than we all thought

      20. You are definetly not oiver 20.
        I hate mcdonalds, and anything from Burger king or KFC. Kell them all.
        At the moment i am playing chibi knight, a fun game from my childhood. I want to earn some kong points. You should try it.

      21. I definitely am. Have you seen me wrecking everyone on the Goku vs One Above All thread? It was 5 against 1 at one point.

        Nah, fast food is where it’s at. I just love the Big Macs.

        I’m busy playing Crash and this Hail to the Chimp party game for PS3. It’s actually not half bad although the story mode could use some work.

      22. I actually agree with you there, because in a normal dimension he stands no chance. And since theone above all has no chance out of his dimension and without powers, well….. Goku wins.
        No you are not 100. A one hundred can take out 100 people at once while keeping their cool about not bein hypocritical (which you did a couple times) and admits defeat when is defeated. He will completely confuse you. I softened you down with the barest of effort.
        And if you are 100, I am 300. So yeah.
        And that 100 is 800.

      23. Glad to hear it. Goku’s definitely got the massive edge!

        I can easily take 100 people on. Just give me a few months to come up with the comebacks every time since there would be a bunch of em.

      24. And just so you know, the only things the vs wiki overates are the marvel charecters.
        They put infinity and Eternity as 1b because they are beings who are infinity themselves, but they have not done those things like destroy everything, it was never said or proven. They really underrate digimon. I mean, they put Alphamon at 2a! When he is obviously able to take on infinity infinitied (to the power of infinity) beings like Oblivion because of his Alpha inforce and Escuriado wave. In fact, he is pretty much invincible to beings that are not hacked like crazy (immune to time, immune to non-existing attacks, immune to post infinity)

      25. Trust me, every place overrates something. It’s just how it goes. Sad to hear that they underestimate Digimon though, it’s a pretty strong verse. They’ve got quite a lot of powerful fighters in there as we saw in Digimon Data Squad and Frontier. Those titles really did a lot of work for the franchise.

      26. And all you are saying is bass is the strongest. No facts (except 2)
        I am coming back with facts. (mostly)
        Do you know why you are easy to counter?

        You have an attack pattern. This is it:
        You say facts without proof
        You say things to try to counter me that you can counter
        You say we cand handle him becase bass is faster than them
        You say random boasts
        You say quirky boasts
        You say fake boasts
        That is what you do.
        Make a harder pattern, or find a way without one. Because I will prepare an attack that will stop this in a short time.
        An attack that you cannot say is fake or unreliable.
        And if you boast without facts on this one…..
        I will denounce you as a 1, and leave this area.
        If you do counter even bits of it, i will increase some of the points on your rank.
        At this moment of time, you dissapoint me with what you do, and what you can do as a total.
        You have potential. just don’t use it as you are doing now, otherwise you will get destroyed by others.
        Wait, you like HXH?
        Yes, I found another one!
        Your favorite charecter is Gon correct?
        Mine is Gon or the phantom troupe. The troupe are beast. I wonder who would win in a fight though? Feitan or Gon? Chrollo would obviously beat him, as chrollo could almost beat Sillva Zoldyck and Zeno at the same time, and they are over illumi’s level, who is hisoka’s level, who is strong as a Troupe member. So around 3 x as strong as gon.
        But can you do this?
        Fei is the fastest troupe member, gon is the fastest Boy.

      27. My attack pattern is riddled with facts though. That’s what always keeps me in the game through rain or sunshine. I make the facts and then the manga delivers them. I gotta keep up 100.
        Sure, I’ll add Feitan vs Gon as a request to the vault. It definitely would be fun to see Gon and Killua go up against the Troupe now since they are a lot stronger.

        On a sidenote, Gon isn’t my favorite character though. He has fought a lot on this site so I can see how you might think that, but my favorite character is definitely Killua. I really like that killer instinct of his and his eagerness to fight.

      28. Tbh, you cannot. If you are hanging on a thread with me, you will not last long with others like 3before2. He smashed me through kingdom come when he fought me. And I am talking 100 like him who can think everything he needs to say in a minute with facts. You wold be destroyed in seconds (or yo would just be lazy and not read half of the comments.)
        Bass is the strongest is not a fact since you have not proven it. I have proven that the royal knights are better. (in most ways)

        Anyway, thanks. To be honest, it should be:
        Gon vs Phinks
        Killua vs Feitan
        Because killua’s lightning makes him faster, speed should go against speed. But pain packer….
        Phinks has attacks like gon, so… Yeah?
        And another one:
        Goku vs Dynasmon
        NOW, do not be a salty dragon ball Z fan and say: BuT GeRkUu WoUlDd StImP dYnAsMoN bEcAuSe He Is GoKu, because goku isn’t as strong as people think. He is not universe level, because he is not beerus. Actually, Beerus should be the opponent.

      29. Hanging by a thread? Well, I’m not going to go and say that I’ve been owning this debate, but I have yet to take a step back. We can say that you have not either if you’d like. I’d still be wrecking everyone even if it was 100 v 1 or not. After a while their comments would get repetitive so I could just copy and paste my replies most likely.

        Bass being the strongest is a fact though so it doesn’t even need to be proven.

        Okay, I’ll update the requests. Dynasmon will be listed as Phantomon since he serves as the base mode for him in this case, but I’ll make sure to keep Dynasmon stats in mind thanks to the composite rule. Lets not underestimate Goku, but it should be a fun fight.

      30. There is some really bloddy scary stuff in digimon that can own even saint seiya, belive it or not.
        Bass being the strongest is not a fact as you have not proven it yet. By your logic i could say Yamcha is the stronest.
        I seem to be on the winning side in argument rules. Facts are a major part it them.
        Another battle:
        Bass vs Alphamon
        And do not put it one sided. Remember, Alpha inForce.

      31. I’ll have to choose not, but I agree that Digimon can be pretty intense.

        I did prove it though. With the Get Ability, Bass is unstoppable.

        Appearances can be deceiving.

        Bass and Alphamon already fought on the blog, it was a decisive victory for Bass.

      32. But he cannot activate Get if he is disintergrated into dust. That is like saying Lucemon is the strongeswt because by existing he can negate all abilities that pose a threat. Not just that, he knows everything. Or is that Homeostasis? I kinda forget……
        And alpha inForce will kill bass before the battle starts. As he can rewind time and screw with stuff.
        And you say bass is undefeated when he has lost over 6 times to different enemies.
        And by I think not, do you mean saint seiya?

      33. It activates instantly so Bass would still be alive and could dodge everything. Lucemon is strong, but he’s too slow.

        Time hax doesn’t stop Bass.

        Bass is undefeated in Fair battles so ignoring plot hax.

        I think so. Saint Seiya is nothing to sneeze at.

      34. There is no such thing as “instant activation”. There is only activation. I can prove it if you want.
        And alpha inforce can negate abilities too. So get shreked on that one. And also tell that to nebula grey, if it was instant, he could have smashed him into oblivion instantly.

        For lucemon, speed does not matter. Because his fight with Ulforceveedramon proves that, and screw him, because
        he can start in the human world and then go into his own dimension.

        Oh okay, so you buff the rules to the point that nothing can stop bass? I would call that unfair. And either way, bass can be defeated by alphamon.

        Prove that bass is immune to time warpin powers. Oh wait, he survived a black hole. That is not time warping powers. Even Darksuperstarmon can do that.

        Well, yeah saint seiya is powerful and yet again underestimated by Vswiki like bass and digimon, but I really dont see the gold saints beathing the royal knights. Magnadramon is enoguh.

      35. Instant is a tough word so I can maybe agree there. You can get to a point where it’s so close to instant that it wouldn’t make much of a difference though. Alpha can negate abilities but it’s not like he can negate the Get Ability. Bass can destroy Nebula Grey, he just likes to keep the fight interesting.

        I don’t see why speed wouldn’t matter against Lucemon. Lucemon is powerful, but he can be speedblitzed just like anyone else. He’s not ready to fight with Bass.

        Nothing can stop Bass. He is the ultimate force in all of media.

        Time warp is a tricky thing, but effectively you can never fully stop time and Bass has enough speed to always stay with the edge. He would also learn time control as well.

        I personally think the Gold Saints would defeat the Royal Knights but both factions are certainly very powerful. It’s just that the Gold Saints are almost on DBZ level at this point.

      36. Hold on a minute:
        Did you just deprive Alphamon of using his ability?
        If so, you know you are going to lose on that side.
        So yes, he can negate it.
        No he does not. Then why does he wnat meagaman dead? Ill tell you why: He got the best of him.

        Because he can move at a posthumous infinite speed. The dark dimention is a place without time, so you cannot move.

        Nothing can stop Bass. He is the ultimate force in all of media.
        Again, no proof.
        Let us take certain things out the picture:
        Strengh: Weaker than Alphamon, never been proven to be over plt level
        Durability: Can die by litterally anything
        Speed: 1st Dimentional infinite, alphamon dark world has been shown to be around the same speed
        Get ability: Covered that.
        Other abilities: Covered that.

        ….no he dosen’t…..

        Dbz is bloody weak, none except Zeno have been proven to be above Universe level.

      37. I’m just saying that instant is tricky. Goku’s instant transmission was said to be instant and then Meta Cooler was able to catch him. Instant is just another word for speed and Bass is as fast as they come. You just can’t negate some things. At most Alphamon can block and repel Bass for a little while, but it’ll all catch up to him at some point and then it’s Game Over. You can still move even if a place is outside of time. Bass would just break the dimension if it limited his movements at all.

        You can’t cover the Get Ability. It wrecks Alphamon in 5 easy steps

        Zeno isn’t even top 20 in DBZ. The guy is seriously overhyped. He can’t even follow the movements of FTL fighters so Goku speedblitzes him for days.

      38. This is why your blog is more unreliable than others.
        I’m just saying that instant is tricky. Goku’s instant transmission was said to be instant and then Meta Cooler was able to catch him.

        Instant is just another word for speed and Bass is as fast as they come.
        Prove that he is faster than alphamon.

        You just can’t negate some things.
        Again, prove that he cannot negate it.
        He has done it before to lots of things.
        I cxould easily say that for your Get ability, because both have activated their powers without fail.

        At most Alphamon can block and repel Bass for a little while, but it’ll all catch up to him at some point and then it’s Game Over.
        Not if Bass’es attacks cannot hurt him.

        You can still move even if a place is outside of time. Bass would just break the dimension if it limited his movements at all.
        No you can’t.

        You can’t cover the Get Ability. It wrecks Alphamon in 5 easy steps
        -Step 1: Bass tries to speedblitz the inforce but then he finds a Ouryouken in his way and gets cut in half.
        Step 2: Bass tries to steal the inforce but it misses and alphamon grabs bass by the neck and Majin buus him.
        Step 3: Bass tries to destroy Alphamon with Gregar and Falzar attacks. Repeat step 1
        Step 4: You know.
        Step 5: ^^

        Zeno isn’t even top 20 in DBZ. The guy is seriously overhyped. He can’t even follow the movements of FTL fighters so Goku speedblitzes him for days.

        Really all of them are overhyped however none is more overhyped than berrus, jesus christ.

        This is why your blog is unreliable.
        You use words like:
        In my opinion
        If you ask me
        My blog says
        It’s not like

        all to protect bass. You needto use facts.

      39. The proof is in the pudding so to speak. Bass was fast enough to keep up with Hubstyle Megaman and he even took on Serenade. He’s way faster than Alphamon.

        Bass has abilities that are far beyond any Digimon so I don’t see how Alphamon can hope to negate his attacks. He can try to block a lot of them, but the damage will keep on accumulating and accumulating until he just can’t stand any longer.

        Bass’ attacks will definitely hurt him.

        Nothing can completely seal your movements like that.

        Here’s the real 5 steps.
        1. Alphamon blasts Bass
        2. Bass absorbs his powers
        3. Alphamon tries to negate the absorption
        4. It fails
        5. Bass destroys Alphamon.

        Beerus is the most overhyped so I can agree on that.

        Sure, but if you ask me it’s not like Bass has no feats. His feats are the best imo and what my blog says doesn’t have any bearing on that. The manga speaks for itself

      40. Eh sure.

        The proof is in the pudding so to speak. Bass was fast enough to keep up with Hubstyle Megaman and he even took on Serenade. He’s way faster than Alphamon.

        Bass has abilities that are far beyond any Digimon so I don’t see how Alphamon can hope to negate his attacks. He can try to block a lot of them, but the damage will keep on accumulating and accumulating until he just can’t stand any longer.

        Bass’ attacks will definitely hurt him.

        Nothing can completely seal your movements like that.

        Here’s the real 5 steps.
        1. Alphamon blasts Bass
        2. Bass absorbs his powers
        3. Alphamon tries to negate the absorption
        4. It fails
        5. Bass destroys Alphamon.

        Beerus is the most overhyped so I can agree on that.

        Sure, but if you ask me it’s not like Bass has no feats. His feats are the best imo and what my blog says doesn’t have any bearing on that. The manga speaks for itself

      41. Eh sure.

        The proof is in the pudding so to speak. Bass was fast enough to keep up with Hubstyle Megaman and he even took on Serenade. He’s way faster than Alphamon.
        Now, now.
        This will start a domino effect.
        How fast is Hubstyle megaman and Seranade? And give me canon proof.

        Bass has abilities that are far beyond any Digimon so I don’t see how Alphamon can hope to negate his attacks. He can try to block a lot of them, but the damage will keep on accumulating and accumulating until he just can’t stand any longer.
        Let us see bass’es abilities:
        -Get ability, only steals powers, has had no proof of being able to block things.
        – other offensive stuff that only do damage. (exception of life aura)
        This is proof that you are wanking bass beyond the absolute belief.
        Even Db, CFC, VBS and the Alground are less biased than this.

        Bass’ attacks will definitely hurt him.

        Does bass do post infinite dmg?

        Nothing can completely seal your movements like that.

        Unless bass has a ability that stops that, then no.

        Here’s the real 5 steps.
        1. Alphamon blasts Bass
        2. Bass absorbs his powers
        3. Alphamon tries to negate the absorption
        4. It -(fails)- suceeds
        5. Alphamon destroys bass.

        I can be as biased as you if I want.

        Beerus is the most overhyped so I can agree on that.
        Ikr.

        Sure, but if you ask me it’s not like Bass has no feats. His feats are the best ((((((imo)))))) and what my blog says doesn’t have any bearing on that. The manga speaks for itself

        IMO.
        IN MY OPINION.
        You just proved my point so hard I am cracking up! It isn’t a fact.
        It is your personal opinion on things. The manga has the best feats tho.

      42. Well, they’re both massively FTL since they were able to keep up with Bass who was confirmed to be FTL. The manga is our canon and it proves it.

        Bass has The Power. Look, lets put this into perspective. Bass has tangled with guys like Megaman, Megaman Hubstyle, Megaman Protosoul, etc. He has credentials. His raw power would be enough to get through to Alphamon. Alphamon has been shown to take damage from Omnimon who is several tiers below Bass.

        As for that last quote, I was just having fun with that. Notice that I used all of the quotes that you said I use too often in one post. I was being witty and self aware

      43. Well, they’re both massively FTL since they were able to keep up with Bass who was confirmed to be FTL. The manga is our canon and it proves it.

        FTL vs Infinite. I think not.

        Bass has The Power. Look, lets put this into perspective. Bass has tangled with guys like Megaman, Megaman Hubstyle, Megaman Protosoul, etc. He has credentials. His raw power would be enough to get through to Alphamon. Alphamon has been shown to take damage from Omnimon who is several tiers below Bass.
        -Megaman is absolutley pathetic without hubstyle or Porotosoul, immediatly remove him.
        -Hubstyle has some good feats, Like being able to destroy all of Megaman’s most powerful villans with one blow and the tops are stronger than universal, so I would give him High 2B for this.
        -Protosoul is also powerful, but not even close to Hubstyle.
        -Show me his raw power.
        -Omegamon has the exact same stats ans NORMAL Alphamon. Ouryouken is different

        As for that last quote, I was just having fun with that. Notice that I used all of the quotes that you said I use too often in one post. I was being witty and self aware
        Well, I am stoopid.

      44. Bass is as close to infinite speed as a character can get.

        Megaman is still an S tier threat without power ups. Just look at his final fight against Protoman where they’re moving at terra level or his fight against Breakman.
        Yes, Hubstyle is amazing
        I dunno, the manga acted as if it was quite a bit stronger
        Bass punched Megaman into the ground while in hubstyle
        Fair enough

      45. Bass is as close to infinite speed as a character can get.
        There has litterally been no proof. Alphamon’s case, there is.

        Megaman is still an S tier threat without power ups. Just look at his final fight against Protoman where they’re moving at terra level or his fight against Breakman.
        True, but it is still nothing, just remove him.

        Yes, Hubstyle is amazing
        Hubstyle is the strongest out of his forms, so yeh.

        I dunno, the manga acted as if it was quite a bit stronger
        Yeah, it is still stronger than bass.

        Bass punched Megaman into the ground while in hubstyle
        Megaman was being stupid. The hubstyle form is more powerful than bass.

        Fair enough

      46. The proof is in the applesauce. Put it this way, Bass was able to speedblitz Megaman and Protoman with little to no effort. That takes guts and determination. He has only gotten faster since then.

        I can’t. Megaman is too strong and fast to be removed. He’s wreck about 99% of the fighters on this site if he wanted too.

        Not sure about the absolute strongest, but Hubstyle is easily one of his best forms.

        Bass is stronger than Protosoul though.

        Bass was wrecking Megaman so I think you’re getting the power levels mixed here a little. You’re probably looking at the games instead of the manga

        Fair enough.

      47. The proof is in the applesauce. Put it this way, Bass was able to speedblitz Megaman and Protoman with little to no effort. That takes guts and determination. He has only gotten faster since then.
        Well I eat applesauce.
        So, what you are doing is going in a circle.

        The proof is in the pudding so to speak. Bass was fast enough to keep up with Hubstyle Megaman and he even took on Serenade. He’s way faster than Alphamon.
        Well, they’re both massively FTL since they were able to keep up with Bass who was confirmed to be FTL. The manga is our canon and it proves it.
        ~Dreager1~
        Lol, massivly Ftl? Vs infinite?
        Megaman is slower than

        Now, I want solid evidence from the manga about their speed. Post it on this site, and give me evrything you have got. If you do not do this, I will put this site into my horribly biased, unreliable and absolute lies section of arguments.

        I can’t. Megaman is too strong and fast to be removed. He’s wreck about 99% of the fighters on this site if he wanted too.
        I don’t mean removed from the blog, I mean reoved from the argument. Use Hubstyle or Exe or soething, but normal form is too weak.

        Not sure about the absolute strongest, but Hubstyle is easily one of his best forms.
        Yes it is the strongest, the manga has the best feats.

        Bass is stronger than Protosoul though.
        Exe bass, yes. But let me find out more.

        Bass was wrecking Megaman so I think you’re getting the power levels mixed here a little. You’re probably looking at the games instead of the manga
        If I am, I am sorry. I will double check just to make sure.

        Fair enough.

      48. It is definitely a circle I suppose, but at least I changed the food this time around.

        Megaman is also faster than Alphamon since he was able to keep up with Bass. If we start debating Megaman vs Alphamon then I can take out some other feats to back him up. Megaman has Bass soul after all.

        I’m glad you have a section for sites like this, but we’ve already been over the speed scans. Remember Protoman yelling about Bass being MFTL?

        That’s what I meant. We can’t remove Megaman from the argument because even base form is enough to wreck these guys. Megaman just isn’t playing around and is always a few steps ahead of the others. His base form is insanely powerful.

        Proto Soul was shown to be stronger than Hubstyle though, but you could make the argument that it’s a better all around form though.

        Yeah, Bass wrecks everybody.

        Definitely, check out volume 5 and volume 7. Those are the two volumes where they fight.

        Fair enough.

      49. It is definitely a circle I suppose, but at least I changed the food this time around.

        net time give me Lemon merangue pie plz.

        Megaman is also faster than Alphamon since he was able to keep up with Bass. If we start debating Megaman vs Alphamon then I can take out some other feats to back him up. Megaman has Bass soul after all.

        I AM TALKING ABOUT EXE MEGAMAN.

        I’m glad you have a section for sites like this, but we’ve already been over the speed scans. Remember Protoman yelling about Bass being MFTL?

        Three things:
        1. Lol,alphamon is still infinite.
        2. Wasnt it Faster than light?
        3. That was also on the anime if I am correct.

        That’s what I meant. We can’t remove Megaman from the argument because even base form is enough to wreck these guys. Megaman just isn’t playing around and is always a few steps ahead of the others. His base form is insanely powerful.

        I KNOW.

        Proto Soul was shown to be stronger than Hubstyle though, but you could make the argument that it’s a better all around form though.

        No it does not. Bass has had trouble in the past with Nebby, Megaman Exe, Cybeasts and other things and even lost to them. protosoul is just one of theos things.

        Yeah, Bass wrecks everybody.
        (kappa)

        Definitely, check out volume 5 and volume 7. Those are the two volumes where they fight.

        Ok.

        Fair enough.

      50. Will do. Nothing beats a good Lemon pie.

        This is EXE Megaman though. In his base form he already has a ton of really awesome feats. He was taking down extremely fast fighters since the very first volume after all.

        1. Nobody is Infinite though. Maybe the new Infinite character from Sonic Forces, but I have my doubts.
        2. True, but we don’t know how FTL.
        3. I don’t remember it happening there, but that would be cool.

        You know that Megaman EXE is insane powerful?

        I dunno about that. Bass was curbstomping Hubstyle once he got his own and then he got stronger, but Protosoul was able to deal heavy damage. I think it’s pretty clear that Proto Soul>>>Hubstyle.

        No kappa needed. Bass does wreck everybody. He is the sharpest of blades. He is the roughest of waves. If anyone is thinking of challenging him then they should just forget it. Because at the end of the day, Bass is the Grilled Cheese and at the most the other characters are the bread on the side.

        Fair enough.

      51. Will do. Nothing beats a good Lemon pie.

        Thanks bro!!!!

        This is EXE Megaman though. In his base form he already has a ton of really awesome feats. He was taking down extremely fast fighters since the very first volume after all.

        Well, i’m stupid. Megaman EXE is normal Megaman, just a different form. I thought you were talking about classic, whoops.

        1. Nobody is Infinite though. Maybe the new Infinite character from Sonic Forces, but I have my doubts.

        There are different forms of infinite. Bass has basic infinite. Alphamon has Infinity cubed. (in power)

        2. True, but we don’t know how FTL.

        So, you say he is the fastest of all, then the mftl, now you say he is unkown speed?
        Well, he is minimum Ftl, because he escaped from a black hole.

        3. I don’t remember it happening there, but that would be cool.
        Yeah, it would.

        You know that Megaman EXE is insane powerful?

        Yes, because of my bakaness.

        I dunno about that. Bass was curbstomping Hubstyle once he got his own and then he got stronger, but Protosoul was able to deal heavy damage. I think it’s pretty clear that Proto Soul>>>Hubstyle.

        No, they were on even ground and then Bass got amplified. Then protosoul massacred bass because it is a double form (sory, forgot about those again)

        No kappa needed. Bass does wreck everybody. He is the sharpest of blades. He is the roughest of waves. If anyone is thinking of challenging him then they should just forget it. Because at the end of the day, Bass is the Grilled Cheese and at the most the other characters are the bread on the side.
        (kappa)

        By that logic, Alphamon is the sandiest grindstone, the most gravitous moon, and the hottest griller.
        XD

        [insert fair enough here]

      52. “There are different forms of infinite. Bass has basic infinite. Alphamon has Infinity cubed. (in power)”

        I still wouldn’t say they’re infinite. Maybe as close to infinite as you can get, but not all the way there.

        “So, you say he is the fastest of all, then the mftl, now you say he is unkown speed?
        Well, he is minimum Ftl, because he escaped from a black hole.”

        Well it is unknown. We don’t know precisely how far FTL Bass is, just that he is FTL. It’s a tough predicament. It’s fair to say that he is essentially infinite or close to it based on his feats, but we don’t have anything concrete to go on. It’s as good a guess as any as to how fast he is.

        I think you’re underestimating Proto Soul. Megaman had to resort to it because Hubstyle wasn’t cutting it anymore.

        Alphamon is sandy and all, but he just doesn’t have the right amount of skills to stop Bass. Bass is in a whole different league at this point and he’s been ascending farther and farther. I can admit that Alphamon is one of the stronger Digimon though. He always puts up a good fight.

        fa-ir-en-ou-gh

      53. I still wouldn’t say they’re infinite. Maybe as close to infinite as you can get, but not all the way there.

        You are not seeming to understand. There is such things as infinite, just not Abholery infinite. Bass in terms of just raw power is only basic infinite, just the beggining. Alphamon is 2 steps ahead and is Infinity cubed power.

        Well it is unknown. We don’t know precisely how far FTL Bass is, just that he is FTL. It’s a tough predicament. It’s fair to say that he is essentially infinite or close to it based on his feats, but we don’t have anything concrete to go on. It’s as good a guess as any as to how fast he is.

        So the best we can say for him is ftl. Alphamon has actual feats of infinite speed, dark realm moving.

        I think you’re underestimating Proto Soul. Megaman had to resort to it because Hubstyle wasn’t cutting it anymore.

        I said a double soul is stronger than a single soul. Hubstyle is the strongest single soul.

        Alphamon is sandy and all, but he just doesn’t have the right amount of skills to stop Bass. Bass is in a whole different league at this point and he’s been ascending farther and farther. I can admit that Alphamon is one of the stronger Digimon though. He always puts up a good fight.

        With the things I have covered, not really.

        F-A-I-R_E-N-O-U-G-H_

      54. Yeah, me too.
        To be honest, I thought you gave up on me because you couldn’t find a way around. But now I have got even worse enemies that are very problematic, (only one actually).
        I am ready to continue the fight, but first I want a Snooze on work. (so much homeworkkkkkk!!!!!)

      55. Nah, I’m pretty sure I got all of the replies in. I’m always up for the hype debates after all. Take that snooze and then bring in your latest points. Should make for a hype bout

      56. Well, you still have not covered my last bit of points, so do that while I wait to debunk those
        (maybe)
        And you say Bass is the strongest.
        By strongest, do you mean physically? Because physically, he has not had many feats.
        Powerwise, yeah I guess.
        Speed is strong though, it could possibly be 1st dimentional infinite.
        Alphamon has been proven to be 1st dimentional infinite. However, with the ouryuken it could be 2nd-3rd dimentional infinite.
        Zeed’s full power is unknown, so no putting him in fights, ok?
        And we are not going to use Vs battle wiki anymore. It has been debunked as fake and unreliable.
        But that does not mean you can buff and wnk bass to an extent, ok?
        (High 2A is infinite btw)
        Low 1c is Posthumous infinite (most likely Omnimon’s level and Gallantmon’s level)
        1c Is still posthumous (Possibly Alphamon?)
        High 1c is heavily posthumous (Lucemon, Susanoomon)

      57. Okay, sounds like a plan. Bass is the strongest overall so not necessarily in terms of strength but he can defeat any other opponent. He is also the fastest. Zeed has already lost in the past though. I agree that Vs Battles can be rather unreliable so no arguments there. Bass is just the ultimate life form.

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