King Ghidorah vs Wackoman



Suggested by Destroyer King Ghidorah is one of the more powerful Kaijus out there. With a single blast he can take many opponents down. It’ll be difficult to tag a fighter as quick and unpredictable as Wackoman though. Wackoman will manage to stay a step ahead with his various elemental moves here and body slams. Ghidorah will need to stay on the defensive but his durability can only buy him so much time. Wackoman wins.

Update 9/4/2023 there is sufficient evidence that Ghidorah could tank Wackoman’s attacks long enough to eventually land one of his counter blows. At that point Wackoman would be down for the count. Ghidorah wins.

6 thoughts on “King Ghidorah vs Wackoman

  1. Alright, hit me with it, tell me how a dude whose schtick is Water/Fire towers and firing some comparatively tiny explosive balls is supposed to stack up to a Kaiju who:

    Tanks Godzilla’s Atomic breath like it’s nothing more than once in the franchise:

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    Tanks Kiryu’s missiles:

    Tanks Destoroyah’s Micro Oxygen Beam:

    And the list goes on and on and on. Just like with those tornados we discussed in the Titanosaurus vs Toadman situation

    Oh and if you wanna bs about speed again because “Kaijus be slow”. King Ghidorah can fly. And he can do it fast enough to tag multiple fighter jets like they’re a joke.

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    Yes that’s right,I can actually use speed, your favorite argument in a variety of discussions against you here. Because unless you can show otherwise, not only does Wackoman seriously get outclassed in speed, but it’s aerial mobility. This is an area that Wackoman cannot take advantage of. There’s really nothing stopping it from simply flying around all over the place and spamming gravity beams until Wackoman is done for.

    So using similar arguments to the ones from Titanosaurus vs Toadman like this:

    “Titanosaurus is fairly slow even for a Kaiju so by the time he turns to strike or fire off a blast then Toadman would already be outside his field of vision.”

    or this:

    “Not trying to use the trust me arguments here but I’ve seen Titanosaurus’ film and he can barely move. It’s the weakness of Kaiju in general that they’re just so slow.”

    or this:

    ” He’s still too slow like the other Kaiju so even if the attack range is intense, I don’t see him being able to do a whole lot here.”

    Are pretty much irrelevant in this battle. So not only can King Ghidorah tank all sorts of powerful attacks that likely outclass anything Wackoman can put out there, speed is actually a factor here since one of King Ghidorah’s main aspects is his flight which can reach very high speeds. If you can demonstrate my understanding of this fight to be wrong, please show some scans to do so.

    • Okay so this one definitely gets pretty interesting. So like you said, King Ghidorah isn’t quite as slow as most of the other Kaiju. In fact that whole airplane scene was pretty impressive I have to admit. That being said, Wackoman’s also really fast. Let me throw in some of his speed feats.

      He can pull off an incredible fist barrage to the point where his arms start to get blurry. So while Ghidorah has travel speed in the pocket, it’s probably fair to say that Wackoman has the combat speed edge. That’s super important since when Ghidorah gets in close he will quickly be smacked away.

      Additionally Wackoman’s minis are shown to be able to keep up with Roll who was shown to have super speed in the Battle Network games. We can assume that the main body would be faster than the small ones so that helps a lot.

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      In terms of Ghidorah’s aerial mobility, he’s going to have some problems with Wackoman’s rockets. He can fire off the minis like a full barrage which means that he will be able to reclaim the skies right away. Any direction Wackoman tries to go into is one that Wackoman already has covered.

      Finally there’s not much more to say about the towers but they are fast:

      So the question comes down to if Ghidorah can tank those shots or not. You showed some good moments of him enduring attacks from tough fighters like Godzilla but in the end the blasts do always end up murdering the Kaiju. Throw in Wackoman spamming these towers and they will be taking a lot of damage right away. It’ll be difficult for Ghidorah to resist that for long and I dare say that he won’t be able to pull it off. When he fires his lasers Wackoman can keep dodging by jumping through the air and sending Ghidorah down with the mini rockets. Once Ghidorah is grounded he won’t be getting up again.

      • “He can pull off an incredible fist barrage to the point where his arms start to get blurry. So while Ghidorah has travel speed in the pocket, it’s probably fair to say that Wackoman has the combat speed edge. That’s super important since when Ghidorah gets in close he will quickly be smacked away.

        He can pull off an incredible fist barrage to the point where his arms start to get blurry. So while Ghidorah has travel speed in the pocket, it’s probably fair to say that Wackoman has the combat speed edge. That’s super important since when Ghidorah gets in close he will quickly be smacked away.”

        Irrelevant punching feat. Makes no demonstration of anything relating to how Ghidorah actually attacks. You literally mention the airplane feat before, which outright demonstrates him using a ranged attack. Getting in close and getting smacked is utterly irrelevant when it’s not at all necessary for him. He’s got the Gravity Beams which is his main ability. To act as if he’s just going to get swatted away like a fly when that’s not his MO is simply wrong.

        And no, making a flurry of punches that are still somewhat visible is not comparable to moving easily past the speed of sound. Since this is composite Ghidorah based on the site’s rule, I can literally just take any version of Ghidorah I want. The GtTHM version of Ghidorah alone can hit speeds of Mach 3 in the atmosphere and reaches absolutely absurd speeds in space, reaching way, way higher amounts of speed.

        And even if this would be helpful in terms of speed, it doesn’t matter because some random flurry of punches isn’t doing anything to Ghidorah, especially when it’s coming from someone much smaller than him.

        “Additionally Wackoman’s minis are shown to be able to keep up with Roll who was shown to have super speed in the Battle Network games. We can assume that the main body would be faster than the small ones so that helps a lot.”

        These minis aren’t demonstrating anywhere near Mach 3 speeds let alone the significantly higher amounts of speed in space.

        “In terms of Ghidorah’s aerial mobility, he’s going to have some problems with Wackoman’s rockets. He can fire off the minis like a full barrage which means that he will be able to reclaim the skies right away. Any direction Wackoman tries to go into is one that Wackoman already has covered.”

        You really haven’t shown any impressive speed feats here, so I’m just going to assume this really isn’t that much better. There really isn’t much being shown here to tell me how fast they’re moving in space. And in space once again Ghidorah has that absurdly faster speed he uses. Not particularly impressive.

        “Finally there’s not much more to say about the towers but they are fast:”

        Yeah they’re fast for a normal human, but to a being that can hit speeds of at least Mach 3 this is pitiful.

        And it requires Wackoman to be on the ground which means it cannot reliably hit Ghidorah, as it can just fly away if it so chooses. So if he’s using this water tower, Wackoman isn’t out there trying to push air superiority into his favor outside of his unimpressive minis.

        “So the question comes down to if Ghidorah can tank those shots or not. You showed some good moments of him enduring attacks from tough fighters like Godzilla but in the end the blasts do always end up murdering the Kaiju. Throw in Wackoman spamming these towers and they will be taking a lot of damage right away. It’ll be difficult for Ghidorah to resist that for long and I dare say that he won’t be able to pull it off. When he fires his lasers Wackoman can keep dodging by jumping through the air and sending Ghidorah down with the mini rockets. Once Ghidorah is grounded he won’t be getting up again.”

        So what? You haven’t demonstrated any of Wackoman’s attacks to be anywhere near as powerful as something like Godzilla’s atomic breath, Kiryu’s missiles, or Destoroyah’s Micro Oxygen Beam. Hell you haven’t even demonstrated they can reliably HIT Ghidorah. I can’t reliably identify anything you’ve shown here as comparing to Mach 3 level speed so I don’t think you can make this argument.

        There’s also something I’ve discovered that makes this even worse for Wackoman, that being the AniGoji continuity. This gives him the added ability to have a very advanced form of selective intangibility that allows him to pretty much negate damage, as it made Godzilla incapable of attacking him while also allowing Ghidorah to attack back. So even in the event that you’re correct about speed and the power of the attacks, it doesn’t mean anything. Ghidorah can simply say no to damage whenever it wants and there’s nothing Wackoman can do to stop that. His attacks simply will not connect and Ghidorah can use his speed to rush Wackoman until he connect enough attacks to swing the momentum in his favor.

      • Wackoman is definitely one of those tricky fighters so not someone to underestimate here. Lets take a deep look into this. For Ghidorah’s intangibility I’d need to see how it reacts to energy type attacks. Most intangibility can’t deal with electricity for example and characters get zapped out of it all the time. Wackoman could just use a heat tower which will still burn Ghidorah even if he’s trying to get past all of that. It ain’t easy as they say.

        Now for Wackoman’s attack power, it’s hard to show in terms of background damage effects since he tends to fight in the cyber net but I can say that it was enough to where even Megaman was having a difficult time at some points and he’s one of the strongest characters in all of fiction. Mach 3 is fast but when you account for combat speed and Ghidorah’s large size, it should still be really possible for Wackoman to land a lot of direct shots. All he needs is the right angle and POW! There goes Ghidorah.

        The minis and the towers don’t go very high so it’s definitely true that Ghidorah could stall them for a while by going into the air but that’s super risky. If Wackoman hitches a ride on Ghidorah then he can start landing tons of cheap shots over and over while Ghidorah would have no real way of countering them. He would effectively be a sitting duck unable to change the roads of destiny that he is on. That’s the real dilemma that he will find himself in. As much as I enjoy Ghidorah’s raw power, it puts him in a bit of a sticky situation.

        Yeah Ghidorah’s composite so absolutely we can grab that super fast one but I disagree that mach 3 or mach 20 and such is more impressive than a fist barrage like that. Being able to punch so hard that you become a blur is an absolutely crazy feat. It’s why you see anime use that for characters like Naruto and Goku to show that they are absolutely insane in terms of power. I don’t think normal characters are a match for that and even true Kaiju would have a tough time opposing this. The sheer power of the attacks and the speed at which they fly is crazy. There’s not a whole lot that can be done about that. Not a whole lot. That said I’ll try to go and grab some more clips of Wackoman causing damage. Been a little tougher to get screen gifs of them so I might need to break open my old DVD vault and grab the episodes from there

      • “Wackoman is definitely one of those tricky fighters so not someone to underestimate here. Lets take a deep look into this. For Ghidorah’s intangibility I’d need to see how it reacts to energy type attacks. Most intangibility can’t deal with electricity for example and characters get zapped out of it all the time. Wackoman could just use a heat tower which will still burn Ghidorah even if he’s trying to get past all of that. It ain’t easy as they say.”

        This is him easily getting through an electromagnetic shield powerful enough to make nukes ineffective. If the intangibility didn’t work against electric abilities, Anigoji Ghidorah would’ve totally failed with this attack. Any physical attack including electric, fire, ice, and non elemental physical attacks are going to be utterly useless against him.

        “Now for Wackoman’s attack power, it’s hard to show in terms of background damage effects since he tends to fight in the cyber net but I can say that it was enough to where even Megaman was having a difficult time at some points and he’s one of the strongest characters in all of fiction. Mach 3 is fast but when you account for combat speed and Ghidorah’s large size, it should still be really possible for Wackoman to land a lot of direct shots. All he needs is the right angle and POW! There goes Ghidorah.”

        You have not demonstrated his attack power to be at all enough to do any significant damage to Ghidorah. And again, intangibility comes in to make direct shots irrelevant. Whether Wackoman could hit a target of Ghidorah’s size and speed or not doesn’t matter when the target doesn’t have a physical form you can actually hit.

        “The minis and the towers don’t go very high so it’s definitely true that Ghidorah could stall them for a while by going into the air but that’s super risky. If Wackoman hitches a ride on Ghidorah then he can start landing tons of cheap shots over and over while Ghidorah would have no real way of countering them. He would effectively be a sitting duck unable to change the roads of destiny that he is on. That’s the real dilemma that he will find himself in. As much as I enjoy Ghidorah’s raw power, it puts him in a bit of a sticky” situation.”

        He doesn’t get to hitch a ride on Ghidorah remember? Once again Anigoji continuity makes Wackoman incapable of physically touching Ghidorah. The intangibility prevents this entire paragraph from happening, because the first step, hitching a ride, is physically impossible. So Ghidorah gets to attack Wackoman, but Wackoman cannot attack Ghidorah.

        “Yeah Ghidorah’s composite so absolutely we can grab that super fast one but I disagree that mach 3 or mach 20 and such is more impressive than a fist barrage like that. Being able to punch so hard that you become a blur is an absolutely crazy feat. It’s why you see anime use that for characters like Naruto and Goku to show that they are absolutely insane in terms of power. I don’t think normal characters are a match for that and even true Kaiju would have a tough time opposing this. The sheer power of the attacks and the speed at which they fly is crazy. There’s not a whole lot that can be done about that. Not a whole lot. That said I’ll try to go and grab some more clips of Wackoman causing damage. Been a little tougher to get screen gifs of them so I might need to break open my old DVD vault and grab the episodes from there”

        Look at this athletic human punching really fast.

        As you can see it’s pretty difficult to see the exact form of his arms and fists. Hell this guy is definitely throwing more punches than Wackoman, he’s clearly faster. And you can clearly still see Wackoman’s fists while he’s punching. Now imagine if this human was capable of punching Mach 3 level speeds. It would be completely impossible to track the movement of his arms and fists. If an athletic human can manage this, then the speed of Wackoman’s punches are extremely dubious, especially compared to what Ghidorah’s demonstrated. This isn’t impressive or showing any crazy attack power.

      • All right that is a pretty impressive bite by Ghidorah there. I can see how Wackoman would be in trouble if he gets hit by that. In theory it would be a one hit KO. Now it could take a long while for him to actually get hit by that attack due to the speed gap but I suppose the defense would be enough to block that for a while.

        I’ll concede Wackoman’s loss here. I’d say you brought up enough good points where I can see how Ghidorah should have the edge. I’ve gone in and updated the match result as well as their individual records on the master spreadsheet.

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