88 thoughts on “Anti Man vs Bass”

1. Since when do you EVER see Bass losing a match? Obviously never. Regardless of what strengths someone else has.

   I think it should be a no no for you to do Bass battles since you obviously have a bias for him. You’d even see him beating an actual multiversal being regardless of proven facts in the manga anime or games. You should avoid these Bass battles though.

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   • Bass is just too powerful to lose. The reason why it seems like he always wins is because his abilities easily surpass those of all other fighters. Multiversal beings tend to be weak because they have no feats or good fighting displays. Now, I do think that Bass is the coolest character ever, but I wouldn’t label it as a bias per say. It helps of course…but Bass is just too powerful. There’s no conceivable way that the Anti Man could defeat him

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     • There’s no reasonable unbiased concievable way Bass could be proven to be as strong as you say he is. Not until I see him blwoing up a solar system or something in an official manga or game or anime.

     • Bass is the greatest….soon the world will see this

     • No one will see it because it’s not there to be seen. Unless you can pull out some magic page that has Bass destroying the universe or something then it’s not going to be seen anytime soon nor will be it be proven anytime soon.

     • We don’t have the feats for that, but we have enough that involve his speed and Get Ability to prove that he can defeat any being. All opposing arguments have been shot down with pure facts after all

     • Nothing’s been shot down. Because you haven’t described how Get Ability does all this and proven how it does this by giving scans.

       I need a scan of him using Get Ability on something stronger than himself like Nebula Grey without it being defeated first. And Nebula Grey doesn’t even count on the high scale because I see no proof of it being planetary or even universal. It might be able to wipe out life in a short while on a planet. But that’s NOT planet busting. Period. It needs to blow up the earth to do that.

     • Sure…but I have described it. Constantly bringing the feats may give me some satisfaction, but it won’t help to elevate your researching skillz. That being said, I shall bring a scan of using the Get Ability on a foe that was (coughonlyforamomentcough) stronger than him and he didn’t have to die or anything. Just physical contact was enough for him to gain the ability thanks to the Get Ability.

       http://www.mangahere.co/manga/megaman_nt_warrior/v05/c002/16.html

       http://www.mangahere.co/manga/megaman_nt_warrior/v05/c002/18.html

       http://www.mangahere.co/manga/megaman_nt_warrior/v05/c002/21.html

       Personally, I just recommend reading the whole volume. Nontheless, he can absorb someone’s power just by fighting them and it basically works instantly. Nebula Grey is a planet buster, but it would be difficult or impossible to prove so I’ll let that one slide for now. Nontheless, Bass has this. We’ve seen his unlimited speed and his Get Ability. What more can we ask for?

     • Nope. Nothing you’ve said is how the defining of a characters abilities is supposed to be in a debate. You HAVE to mention and show just why and how it does all this. Pretty sure he never said he can absorb it through fighting alone. Only after the battle is done and so long as he kills them. Slur was killed and absorbed. Nebula Grey lost his physical body during the fight so that was absorbed.

       We can ask for a scan of him absorbing a powerful opponent just by touching him without fighting and killing him. Non of the scans provided show Bass being able to infinitely absorb anything and ANYONE just by fighting alone and touching them. Instantly is nothing but you hyping him as something he’s not.

     • It’s almost as if you did not look at the scans. Or did you click on the link and didn’t advance a page further to see him get up? I just completely showed that he can copy someone’s powers without being defeated and that the opponent was stronger because he was winning. Not sure what more I can show on that end. I completely proved that he doesn’t need to destroy his opponent

     • You didn’t show anything. It didn’t show him absorbing anyone. All it did was state that his power could absorb opponents he’s fought. Didn’t specify that it had to be opponents he killed or just because he can absorb whenever he wants. Nor did it show him absorbing anyone. It just said through the words of Lans father that the stronger his opponent that he absorbs the stronger he gets. Simple known fact that no matter what kind of absorbing power you have, the stronger the opponent is when you absorb them then the stronger you get. It’s not some special ability that makes Bass better than the rest. Because it’s a given for any kind of absorption.

       You haven’t proved anything. I’ve already debunked your claims of proof. Now I’m still waiting for that magical scan.

     • He said all that because it had just happened on screen! Now I’m sure that you barely looked at the scans.

       http://www.mangahere.co/manga/megaman_nt_warrior/v05/c002/16.html

       Click on the link and scroll through the next few pages. If it doesn’t happen by 5-8 pages then feel free to exit, but it is in that range. It’s right after this moment that Bass copies Megaman’s abilities and that’s why they’re commenting on it. Statements + On Screen feats = Facts. So, before we go into this again, just look at the scan. Then we can talk about debunking…

     • That scan literally said NOTHING on the issue other than he’s hungry for battle. And all it did was lead up the same scans you showed previously. And I’m pretty sure Megaman was already pretty weak from battling. It’s easy to say he was too weak to resist Bass’s ability at that point after wasting his power on other things. And

     • Eh, that doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. Megaman was weakened (From fighting Bass!) but he still had the upper hand. That doesn’t counter my argument that he can copy someone’s abilities without destroying them and he doesn’t need to do it either. His Get Ability Program simply extracts the data and makes a copy of it. There is no resisting involved because it’s not an external ability like that. It can be used physically of course as seen in volume 11 (The one with Nebula Grey in case I got the numbering wrong) but he can also do it through pure combat. So, it doesn’t matter if Megaman was weakened or not

     • It does matter. Because he’s never been shown absorbing a strong opponent simple by touch without having a weakened opponent at full streangth. And an example of his ability requiring the death of an opponent was how he only had Serenades reflectance AFTER he killed him.

       His ability will not be copying Goku’s Super Saiyan simply by touch nor is he going to be winning against anyone like Galactus.

       And Megaman was not just weak from fighting Bass. He was in Hubstyle for a few chapters prior and wasting energy on other things. Thus he was still weak and only had the upper hand against a Bass that wasn’t taking him as seriously as he could have. Hence why he later started monologing about Megaman being the one.

     • We can confidently know that he can do this. Absorbing something like the Super Saiyan ability would be child’s play for him. There’s nothing that separates Super Saiyan from Hubstyle. Moreover, he wouldn’t need any kind of power up to deal with someone like Galactus. His speed would suffice and his Dark Arm Blade would just slice him in two.

       For the Reflectance, he obtained it after destroying Serenade, but who’s to say that he wouldn’t have gotten it if they had fought for a while? The battle was abruptly ended because Serenade wasn’t in his league. He would have gotten the ability regardless.

       Megaman was still basically at full power when they fought and it’s the perfect example of Bass’ Get Ability. Bass was still fighting him pretty seriously and while none can ever approach him in coolness/epicness/power, Megaman was his first really big opponent and it can be debated that he surpassed Bass in power. After all, Megaman could easily trade blows with Goku by that point. Bass’ Get Ability will simply work anyway. Whether he destroys an opponent or is getting defeated by an opponent, the power will go to him

     • I’m really getting tired of you thinking you can claim that I can see something when I can’t. There’s nothing to see. You HAVE NOT PROVED ONCE that he can just copy anything without killing them or making them weak. And it wouldn’t work on someone like Goku anyways cause in his final incarnation his proven feats (Defeating Frieza who was a proven planet buster and theorized multi planet buster. And by the end he was already light years ahead of that) he was already far superior to anything shown by Bass in the manga. And even the villains he defeated have not shown that they are superior to Goku. So it DOES NOT MATTER who Bass defeated in the manga or games. Megaman still wasted power and energy just being in hubstyle and fighting against the Grave Virus beast amongst others. And to claim Megaman can easily trade blows with Goku by that point? This is pure biggoted bias right there. Cause to claim that and be taken seriously you FIRST have to prove it by proving that Bass is stronger than Goku which you have failed to do even for the villains.

       Get ability WILL FAIL MISERABLY.

     • Get Ability never fails. Those scans proved that he can copy abilities through power. It really doesn’t matter how powerful his opponent was since it’s not something that you can just “resist”. Bass is far too powerful for that. Goku is a strong fighter, but Megaman has the speed and power necessary to trade blows with him. Let’s face it, Goku’s a skilled warrior, but even he isn’t the best fighter out there. No bias, but Megaman has proven himself through his many fights. He didn’t blow up a planet on screen, but he certainly has the power to do so. Just look at his fabled Hubblast. We’ve also already seen Bass’ limitless speed so Goku couldn’t even catch him.

       #BassWillWin

     • Your scans proved nothing. It WILL FAIL. The fact that he didn’t do it on screen proves that you have no official backing. Opinions on things that are unconfirmed are not going to decide a fight. But it will lean far more into other favors when they have proven feats. Like Goku being stronger than a major planet buster. Especially being light years away.

       We’ve seen nothing but the failed perceptions of yours on what REAL limitless speed is.

     • I have to disagree on just about all of that. Opinions are no good of course, but Bass’ feat definitely suffices. He copied Megaman’s Hubstyle and we really can’t ask for anything more. That is a complete on screen feat and it proves that he can do it.

       Bass was FTL in his first appearance and he kept on getting faster and faster. His speed definitely surpasses Goku’s…show me a scene where he is faster if you think that he actually is.

     • The fact of the matter is that Bass NEVER showed himself copying the powers of a fresh opponent who was stronger or almost as strong as himself. He didn’t even manage to copy anything from his first LONG INTENSE battle with Serenade until he killed him.

       Bass is a microscopic insect to Goku let alone being non existent to Galactus. You want proof of Goku’s speed? Here’s one from when he was a kid fighting Tien for the first time. He moved quicker than Tiens Solar Flare/Taiyoken (Instant burst of LIGHT)

       Solar Flare activated.
       http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/214/09-130.0/compressed/edragon_ball_v009_ch130_p153.jpg?v=11358559127

       Goku moved quick enough as a kid to grab Roshis sunglasses from a distance and to move back into place right where he was BEFORE he got hit with the light.
       http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/214/09-130.0/compressed/edragon_ball_v009_ch130_p155.jpg?v=11358559127

     • He lost to Serenade the first time, but why should he copy his abilities until he can prove that he doesn’t need them? Bass could copy the abilities, but there are so many reasons why he may choose not too. Honor and pride are some major factors after all.

       It’s really debatable about Solar Flare being that quick and we don’t see exactly when Goku left to get the glasses. Also, be aware that once he left, the light wouldn’t affect him. He may have gotten back halfway during the technique or later. Still, a very impressive feat, but BAss is Much faster. Goku is also much stronger than Galactus and Bass is at the top of the food chain

     • That would defeat the purpose of his story. His story said that he wants to be stronger. Why should he not copy abilities that would make him stronger and make it easier for him to take revenge on the humans? He should and would have. But he couldn’t. To him in the battle for strength, honor and pride don’t matter. Not when he’s battling in the undernet. He’s supposedly the king of the undernet aside from Serenade where the land is ruled by uncontrolled greed and such. They wouldn’t consider him that on strength alone. He was the most dangerous and power hungry of them all.

       And it’s not debatable once you ACTUALLY look at it. Goku could have only gotten the glasses as the light was heading towards him. Otherwise Tien would have seen him do so as he has the ability to see every move he makes. Goku was great in speed but not to where Tien wouldn’t have noticed him going for the glasses unless it was right as the light had shined form Tien. Tien had to head straight for Goku’s spot and punch but he couldn’t see him as the light was also in his way. And Goku had to have gotten the glasses right then and there. And the technique was pretty much instataneous so it’s moot to say halfway or later. It takes less than a second for it to shine outward and just as less for it to hit it’s target. Bass is still the bottom of the food chain in this aspect. And Goku is not much stronger than Galactus. Galactus is already proven to be stronger through canon feats alone (Destroying star systems and such by accident in a fight with Mephistopheles and all the while absorbing the underworld itself into him).

     • That’s not how he rolls all of the time. Of course Bass wants to keep on getting stronger, but his main mission is to be acknowledged as the strongest and to fight powerful opponents. It’s why he let Megaman live the first time. He doesn’t destroy his opponents just so that he could get stronger. He didn’t want to have to resort to such a cheap trick when fighting Serenade. I completely disagree that anything goes in the Undernet. Of course it does, but Bass never had to resort to underhanded means. He earned all of his victories and he was feared because of his overwhelming power. He’s dangerous because he is skilled. Bass never left his honor or pride at the door simply because of the setting for his fights. He always fought with dignity and he believes in defeating his opponents with straight up tactics. That’s why he didn’t copy Serenade’s abilities there. Also, you can argue that it would Not have made a shred of difference to copy her techniques at that point.

       Tien had to close his eyes, grimace, yell Solar Flare (speed of sound to say it) and the light envelops the area. Then he quickly dashed forward and that’s when they saw Goku. It’s a pretty large window and it would be easy for Goku to slip out and grab the glasses. I don’t think we can say that he was FTL based off of that. Definitely hypersonic, but lightspeed is a whole different ball game. Just because the technique has light doesn’t always make it instant. It’s why people like Catwoman and Batman can dodge laser blasts casually. The blasts aren’t FTL, they just look cool. Authors aren’t actually thinking of debates when writing the stories so they don’t have to abide by our physics.

       A few high end feats for Galactus don’t help to overshadow all of the times that he was humiliated by mere humans with Nullifiers and Shadow Cat in the recent Ultimate Marvel arc. Goku would easily crush him with a Kamehameha. Bass would beat Goku with a few light speed punches. That’s how the food chain works in this instance.

     • Obviously Bass doesn’t have the dignity you claim. His only dignity is that he loves good fights regardless of tactics. He’s essentially like Vegeta used to be. Too arrogant to know his limits. Hence why he got his ass handed to Serenade despite being given a chance to stop. And even then it was his own arrogance and failure to see that his opponents were superior to his own power. Thus Bass would have, but didn’t copy Serenades powers because he couldn’t. Because Serenade was far too strong and fresh into battle and had to be killed or near death.

       And you’ve already proven that you’ve failed as a debater. You obviously didn’t read the scan otherwise you would know the scan had Tiens eyes open. Even in the anime like the Tree Of Might movie, Tien had his eyes open for it. He has three eyes. His eyes aren’t normal. Thus Goku was faster than the light itself due to Tien being capable of seeing Goku move (If Goku really was taking his time and not moving faster than light).

       And you fail to realize that the nullifier is still his most powerful weapon. You use it on him and it’ll cause him trouble by a great degree. But it won’t kill him necessarily . The nullifier is basically the only thing that can humiliate him It’s a universal weapon that belongs to him and is a byprodcut of HIS power. Nothing else’s power. And his power is still far greater than Goku’s shown feats. Even Goku is probably galaxy level at best in Z’s final saga. If you actually did the math you’d realize this.

     • No, Bass has dignity and why bring up Vegeta. Vegeta is all about dignity and pride so that’s a terrible comparison to make unless you’re just proving my point. Bass is always confident and arrogance is a great character trait. That’s exactly why Bass wouldn’t copy Serenade’s powers if given a chance. He wanted to win on his own merits and it’s why he’s such a great character.

       I’m the greatest debater of all time. The talker of legends. The Gary Stu of the Gary Stus. The Master of Faster. The best passer since Tony Romo. The coolest guy ever. Etc. Tien cannot see anything through the solar flare anyway and it’s only after he finishes performing the pose that he can see. His eyes help him to adjust instantly which is why he’s able to go through the flare, but it’s still time that Goku could take to leave and come back. Three eyes are better than two, but not that much better.

       The Nullifier is extremely overrated just like the Heart of the Universe. It’s very impressive, but only in the Marvel universe, which is extremely low tier compared to just about any Shonen Jump series. You’re in the extreme minority as far as realizing that Goku is galaxy level so I’m not sure what numbers you’re using. That being said, I consider Goku to be galaxy level at the very least so we agree on that. Unfortunately for Galactus, he’s just too slow to stand up to Goku. Goku would crush him in hand to hand combat or just blow him up with the Kamehameha. Either way, Galactus is doomed. Remember when the Human Torch and Thor knocked him down or when the Ghost Rider defeated him in an instant? That’s basically how the fight with Goku would go down. I would easily take Phoenix mode Cyclops over Galactus and he wouldn’t stand a chance against Vegeta in Super Saiyan 1 or good ole Superman.

     • Bass still would have copied him if he had the chance. He was losing and could have died. He would NEVER RUN THE RISK OF NOT GETTING HIS REVENGE ON HUMANS. He WOULD have absorbed or copied him if he could. BUT HE CAN’T. Because Serenade was stronger and too strong and fresh into battle.

       You’re a failure of debates. You’ve literally pulled nothing but your own imaginiation as proof. Proof doesn’t come from imagination. The only Bass being as strong as you claim is some overrated fanfiction edition.

       Tiens eyes psychic. They are roughly 1,000 times more effective. He could sense energy and presence. Thus if goku took his time (Which he didn’t and moved faster than the light) Tien would have sensed it.

       Overrated doesn’t change the facts. The nullifier is also a multiversal wepaon when in Galactus hands. It’s many times stronger in his hands than others. And the heart of the universe is still more powerful than Bass. Your whole logic is using contradictions to your own statements. You claim Bass is stronger, yet the Heart and nullifier don’t work outside Marvel? Fake. If they don’t then Bass can’t even touch things from outside his universe. Thus you’re wrong based on your own logic. The heart and nullifier are of Supernatural cosmic scales. Far superior. And I already proved that Ghost Rider used supernatural abilities. He used biblical magic. Thus he will be able to take down anyone who has a soul and is guilty of murder. And Thor is one of the most powerful in Marvel when he has the Odin Force. Rune King Thor is a skyfather like being. He can easily cause trouble for Galactus. Even after knocking him down he still got back up and brushed it off. Thanos knocked him down to once. And all he did was mess up his helmet. Galactus got back up and put Thanos right into the ground begging for mercy.

       Galactus is stronger than Goku who’s far superior to Bass and thus so is Galactus. Get over it.

       My actual experience on debate teams is far superior to your self proclaimed ability. I wasn’t on the freakin debate team in high school for 2 years for nothing.

     • Oh please. Then why would he tell Megaman “Are you the one who will vanquish my hatred” later on? He clearly doesn’t mind dying if it is against a powerful opponent. He was likely thrilled to fight Serenade and betraying his honor would be worse than not getting his revenge. BASS NEVER CHEATS. That is the only reason why he didn’t copy Serenade’s abilities.

       ’m the greatest debater of all time. The talker of legends. The Gary Stu of the Gary Stus. The Master of Faster. The best passer since Tony Romo. The coolest guy ever. Etc. They didn’t even invent debating before I came along. Bass is invincible.

       Nah, Tien was too focused on the battle. His eyes could be a million times better than human eyes and Goku could have tricked him. Why? Because this Is a manga and the author doesn’t care about those calcs. The whole Goku being FTL debate is also very flawed.

       The weapons work all right, but they wouldn’t have an effect on Bass because they’re too weak. Galactus has some good feats, but he would never seriously be able to defeat Thanos or Thor. Ghost Rider’s tricks didn’t work on Venom so that doesn’t say much for Galactus.

       Here’s how the power rankings work. Bass>>>>Goku>>>>Tsuna>>>Ichigo>>>Naruto>>>Superman>>>Thor>>>>Galactus>>>Beyonder>>>>>Living Tribunal>>>>One Above All>>>>Presence. Bass is still at the top.

       2 years? That’s nice, but I’ve been debating on this site for at least double that and I keep on improving as I hone my debating skills to new heights. It’s a little too easy when I’m debating for Bass though and it’s more of a challenge to try and get people to see why Vegeta beats Superman in a fight or why Ichigo could beat Luffy and Naruto teaming up.

     • He doesn’t want to die. He wants to defeat his opponent and absorb him. The stronger the opponent the close he’ll get to taking his revenge and quelling his hatred.

       And yet he cheated by pretending to take Serenades offer and then Earthbreak his hand. Cheater. He will not and could not absorb or copy because he was not strong enough. And Serenade was too fresh and energized and strong for him. Get over it.

       You’re a failure of a debater who literally does nothing but use derp as his own evidence.

       Guess who was the main focus of his battle? GOKU. HE WOULD NEVER TAKE HIS FOCUS OFF OF GOKU. Now your just doing the whole moviecodec forums stuff. “Oh he’s an author and doesn’t care”. Doesn’t matter. He cared while he was writing it. So it still counts. Because it’s simple feats of physical speed. Not like the whole “How many times does SS3 multiply Goku’s strength?” It’s not something that requires us to hear but simply see and observe the conditions. Your inability to differentiate the types of evidence is obviously showing your immaturity as a debater.

       
       Galactus is still superior to Thanos and Thor. And Ghost Rider didn’t even use the penance stare on Venom because Venom isn’t completely unsalvageable. Only truely guilty and evil individuals are victims of Ghost Rider. Hence why Galactus went down so easily. He’s easily murdered more people than anyone ever did. Hence the effectiveness on Galactus.

       Here’s how the REAL rankings go. Not your PIS fanfiction.
       Presence>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(Infinity over because he’s actually a creator god and is immune to everyone in the list)LivingTribunal>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Galacts>>>>>>>>>>>>>Goku>>>>>>>>>>>>>Everyone else>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bass.

       2 years in an educated class AND 1 year of college debate trumps your uneducated time on the internet. It’s not even a challenge to debunk your load of fakeness. It’s a challenge not to spew milk laughing at the asinine lies you spew.

     • He wants to win, but he doesn’t mind being defeated if it is to a powerful and worthy opponent.

       Pretending to take his hand was definitely out of character, but the author can’t be perfect right? Bass could have copied his abilities, but he chose not too because he is a quality character. He always wins on his own power and that’s who Bass is.

       Let’s not mock Derpy. Derpy’s easily the best pony in Friendship is Magic aside from Pinky Pie. The show reeks of quality and every message has a good moral. I don’t now why derp is known as a bad thing. Anyway, I’m a masterful debater who never gets into a debate that I can’t win. After all…I always win. I have the scans and the passion to never give up.

       I’m very mature as a debater. I once decided between ordering a Cheeseburger and ordering a slice of Pizza. It was tough, but I debated the pros and cons. Now, I’m not saying that Tien lost his focus as that would be more surreal than a Papa John’s Pizza. I’m simply saying that Goku had a lot of time to go and get the glasses without being FTL. The Author doesn’t care and it seriously does affect things. I’d say that you’re over analyzing at this point, which is the mistake that many debating sites fall into. Either way, Goku wasn’t FTL there and did I mention that I’m a excellent debater? I’m better than sliced bread.

       This is why assumptions aren’t good and it shows that you need to train more as a debater.

       

       Venom has resisted the Penance Stare on more than one occasion. Since Galactus couldn’t resist, it shows how weak his mental defenses are. Goku would slaughter them all. I’d still take Thanos and Thor over Galactus.

       I actually agree with your list if you flip it around. Then it’s 100% accurate.

       Nope. I have 4 solid years on the blog, 5 if you count the first one. Then I pwned a little on Factpile and The MVC Lounge. I’m a good Youtube debater as well. I’ve been winning debates since I could tie my shoes and I keep on surpassing myself. Over and over again. I can eat 6 donuts in the time it would take to even think of a counter to my arguments. That’s how intense the debating has become. It’s why I’m so good and why this site is so recognized across the planet. Just think of how many views actually get over 50 views in a day? It’s tough. No disrespect to Goku or Galactus, but Bass would easily crush those two. Just look at his overwhelming power and skill. I’m sure that you’re a good debater, but you shouldn’t overestimate your knowledge or try to win a debate that can’t be won. It would be like me trying to prove that Batman could beat Superman if he had a good amount of prep time…..

     • He doesn’t want to be defeated. He wants more power. Already proven. Otherwise he wouldn’t try to get stronger and survive. He would have left his first battle with Megaman hubstyle be his last. He fights dirty. Period.

       And you don’t decide what out of character is. Because only the author does. And he didn’t establish Bass as some super prideful guy who doesn’t fight dirty. Hes been establshed as a power hungry animal.

       You still fail as a debater for not realizing that the penance stare is not instant. He felt the pain. But Venom didn’t have enough time before an exlposion forced them away. So Venom didn’t get the full experience. And the less evil you are and the less people you kill the less it’ll be. Galactus own tendencies sealed his fate as to his vulnerability to the stare.

       And I’m laying down the law of the debate world. Goku DIDN’T have a lot of time to get the sunglasses. I am the Judge Dredd of the debate world. And I… AM THE LAW.

       You shouldn’t try to debate with someone who’s actually got a debate life outside of the internet. It’s like a street brawler with 2 weeks of experience in brawling trying to take on a guy as seasoned as Batman in fighting who was actually trained by professionals. You’ve failed to support Bass. And he feels disgraced that you would give him strength that he doesn’t possess.

     • Bass wants more power, but not at the expense of cheating. He fights a fair fight and then he gets the power. It’s how he rolls. He never fights dirty or cheats. The author didn’t create Bass so he’s subject to being wrong. I know more about Bass than the author does and it’s not even close. Bass has always been established as a guy who fights honorably. I’m not sure if we read the same manga. You’re not mixing this up with the other EXE manga right? Bass was more emotional in that one and not as cool as the real Bass.

       Venom caused the explosion. Ghost Rider just lacked the skills needed to win. His stare wouldn’t work on Bass or Frieza. They could just resist it. I never fail as a debater, I just call it as I see it.

       Goku had Enough time to warrent him not being FTL. You realize how big the gap between hypersonic and light speed is right? It’s as big as the gap between Judge Dredd and Robocop. Robocop has the better tech, but Dredd has the better personality. Goku could have flown to the moon and back..then it would have been light speed.

       I debate in real life as well. I debate between oreos and chips ahoy. Between Madden 15 and Mario Power Tennis. Etc. I don’t debate with others, but that’s because I don’t want to end debating careers before they even begin. Give me two weeks of intensive training and I could give Batman a run for his money. I mean, just watch Beware The Batman. He gets owned by Magpie and Anarchy even though they aren’t hand to hand specialists. I did a great job of supporting Bass and you knot it. It’s why he has over 500 wins on this site and why nobody’s ever been able to debunk his incredible feats.

       Please understand (insert Iwata meme) that Bass is simply invincible and I am the ultimate debater. We make quite the team and it’s why I’ve made a lot of waves in the debating community. Seriously….I am called DReager1 for a reason. Your debating history is impressive, but not as much as mine. I’ve debated more times than I can count…and that’s on the weekends!

     • Give a better scan. I could easily say that through the previous chapters, Megaman using hubstyle had already been fighting too long. For one he was wasting time. Pretty sure he can’t stay in that form forever. So he wasted energy. And grew weaker. So Bass could have easily absorbed a weak enough opponent who was too weak to keep his own strength. Especially since Bass probably wasn’t even hurt by the initial attacks. And he was probably fresh into the battle. He didn’t absorb someone who was more powerful and copy it instantly. He absorbed the power of a weakened opponent who couldn’t muster the strength to resist nor did he know.

     • There are no better scans because Bass is always crushing the opponents who stand in his way. Megaman was definitely strong enough to keep up his form and he wasn’t showing any real signs of fatigue. He was actually pretty thrilled since he appeared to be winning. You seem to be mixing the absorbing and copying traits. Bass can absorb abilities and he’s done it numerously throughout the franchise, but I’m talking about copying and adding onto his powers. He didn’t absorb Megaman’s data there, he merely copied it. That is what the Get Ability is all about. It can absorb an ability as well like how Bass absorbed Serenade and the Virus Beast, but he can also copy abilities as seen with Hubstyle. To copy, all he needs to do is fight the opponent and witness the attacks

     • You haven’t shown scans of him using this ability on strong opponents like Serenade without having to weaken them first or kill them. So I have no reason to believe you on this at all. Copying is the same as absorbing because either way he gets the powers. But he still has to overpower them first through beating them half to death or them already being weakened from battle.

       He’s not going to win any fights unless you can prove these claims of yours through scans. And the scans of yours haven’t proven anything.

       You still haven’t debunked why he never used or had Serenades reflectance until AFTER he killed him. Or why he couldn’t just copy/absorb Alpha’s data to escape and had to rely on the virus beast wanting to fuse with him.

     • How was Bass beating Megaman half to death through the battle? Megaman got in all of the big blows and Bass eventually went down. He just copied the ability because it’s what he does. It would have worked on anyone.

       The fight was so brief that he just happened to absorb the reflectance after he defeated Serenade. He left Alpha whenever he wanted so I don’t get the reference. He was just gathering energy and then he left for the win. Even after the mighty and all power ruler of darkness and oblivion LASERMAN shot him from behind, Bass still survived. This guy’s power is basically unlimited

     • They barely traded blows and Megaman was already low on energy. Hence why he lost his hubstyle transformation similar to how Goku will lose the Super Saiyan transformation the moment he loses enough energy (Meaning he’s weak at that point).

       And the fact that he KILLED him before showing the reflectance 99.9% leans to having to kill his opponents or having them be very weakened ti take abilities.

       This guys power is only unlimited in your imagination. And imagination is not REAL LIFE. Not most of the time. And definitely not here.

     • He lost the transformation after Bass completely crushed him and landed tons of blows. It wasn’t a lack of energy, but too much power taken from him. Kind of like when Hirudegarn fought Gotenks and smashed them hard enough to break the transformation.

       No, if that were the case then he couldn’t get Hubstyle. You can’t just completely disregard that feat to satisfy your requirements.

       Nothing is completely unlimited, but Bass is easily the closest thing to unlimited.

     • Copying isn’t taking power. So your argument on that is moot as you yourself stated it wasn’t absorbing power. So Megaman lost it due to energy consumption.

       You don’t take energy form an opponent when you hit them. Hirudergarn took them down because they were still weak from fighting him anyways. The point of the Fusion is to do it at full power. Not when you’re weak. Otherwise the time limit is VERY short.

       YOU can’t just simply spew stuff out to suit your own beliefs.

       Bass is far from unlimited. There are still tons of characters that can topple him. Not until you show scans like the ones I sent you about KID Goku being faster than a burst of light.

     • Megaman didn’t lose it. He was knocked out of it by Bass’ attacks and Bass had already copied it. Copying and absorbing aren’t the same, but both give Bass a huge advantage over any opponent anyway.

       They weren’t weak from fighting Hirudegarn. That was the first hit that he had done and that’s just how powerful he was. One hit was all that he needed to take them out. You naturally lose energy when you are hit. This is true in just about every form of media. The lost energy just dissipated and nobody keeps it, but you definitely lose energy when you are hit.

       I’ve already shown the scans of Bass being massively FTL, there’s not much else to show. He’s in a different league from Goku in terms of speed

     • You haven’t shown anything that wasn’t ambiguous. Get it? Scans aren’t all the same. He’s in a far weaker league in terms of speed to Goku. Gotenks didn’t start fighting until they had already been fighting him. So your whole point is moot.

     • I don’t see how the scans are ambiguous. Sure, you can make the argument that we don’t know exactly how fast Bass’ FTL capabilities are, but we do know that he got faster at an exponential rate through Hubstyle and Beast Out. Knowing that he was already FTL and that those forms are many times better in terms of speed, it’s easy to see why Bass is extremely fast.

       I don’t see how you can even try to say that Gotenks was weakened. Hirudegarn couldn’t really land a hit on him until that moment and Gotenks was just toying with him. He was definitely not in any state to say that he was weakened. It’s like saying that Superman was weakened against Amazo because he was near the house when it blew up earlier. It’s not something that would cause such a powerful hero to feel any kind of fatigue.

       Goku’s sunglasses scene is impressive to be sure and he also got much faster as the series went on, but I would argue that Bass is much faster. Look at how long it took Goku to cross snake way or to get to where Frieza was to save everyone after he woke up? Bass would have done it much faster

     • First off there is no definitive FTL abilities due to the ambiguity of the statements. Him having transformation does not equate to the speed of light or faster. You have failed to prove that because you solely rely on the fact that he has transformations. That doesn’t equal to proof.

       I don’t see how you can be ignorant enough of DBZ to realize that your energy before the fusion makes the biggest difference. The lower the energy the less time you have to fuse.

       First off in the manga, it didn’t even show Goku going through what he did in the anime. The anime was filler. That is why your whole time argument is null and void. And in the anime it says time passes by differently there than in the real world.

       Bass would not have done anything faster. Not until you prove his speed with more than just “He has beast out and hubstyle and defeated so and so”.

     • There is no ambiguity. Protoman clearly says “I’m talking light” in regard to Bass’ speed. Protoman is fast enough to ascertain this so there’s no question about it. Transformations relate to speed in 99% of media. The reason is the fact that Bass can keep up with the stronger opponents. Take Megaman vs Bass. Megaman proved to be faster in combat and that’s how he was able to do so well against Megaman. In the very next scene, we see that Bass’ speed is completely overwhelming Megaman and he can barely follow his movements. That’s concrete proof that Bass got much faster and you can really see evidence of this in all of his power ups. Beast Out would be debatable since he never got to fight in that form, but I dont’ see why it would change there.

       The energy before a fusion has never mattered before so I don’t see why it would start now. Ever watch Fusion Reborn? Goku and Vegeta kept messing up on the fusion and finally they got it right, but only after being blasted a lot of times and losing energy constantly during their earlier fights. They were quickly restored to full health when they fused. That’s just how it worked and it’s how its always worked in DBZ.

       I’m just talking about the manga anyway. We see him leave and whole fights begin and end by the time Goku arrives there. It still took quite a long time and it shouldn’t have if he was truly FTL.

       Already proven on the topic of Bass.

     • As I said previously, you cannot rely on an English translation by an English company. Ambiguity. Period.

       Tranformations do not relate to where you can just magically pick and choose what the multipliers are. Transformation does not equal light speed. Otherwise EVERYONE who ever got a transformation is MFTL.

       Excuse me but I know. You don’t. Fusion doesn’t just happen for anyone. You have to be on an equal power to your own to do the fusion dance. Goten and Trunks wasted a lot of power fighting Hirudergarn first. Thus their power was very low. The fusion is not reliant on the dance for energy to stay fused (Time limit of 30 minutes reduced to only a few seconds due to weakening energy). It’s reliant on the users current levels of resrve. Your way is how it NEVER worked or will work in DBZ.

       And remember that it never stated how much time it took for Goku to reach the fighters once he finished his training. And he didn’t even finish everything before they started dying. Obviously he had to learn a few things. IIRC the Saiyans showed up earlier than expected. By a few hours no less.

       I’ve already debunked everything you’ve said on Bass. He’s not going to be the god of media or any other franchise. He’s far too weak. Already proven.

     • …There’s no reason not to rely on the english version unless it directly contradicts something. So, point invalid. Bass was FTL before the transformations as well so it wouldn’t change a thing. Transformations don’t equal LS, but they do multiply your speed to a high degree.

       Nobody knows more about DBZ than me. It was still 30 minutes, he was forced to split apart because of how powerful the strike from Hirudegarn was. I don’t see how you can interpret it that way. It’s clear that they just couldn’t endure the hit. Much like how a saiyan reverts back to normal when defeated, a fusion will instantly come undone. My way is simply how DBZ fusion works. It’s why Hirudegarn got so much hype as he’s the first opponent to have enough power to forcefully split up a fusion fighter.

       The Saiyans actually waited for a very long time for Goku to show up and they finally got impatient and began to attack. Goku definitely could have made it if he was light speed. I’m not denying that he was hyper sonic, but tell me how he could possibly be light speed if it took him so long? Much less light speed back in the kid days. This is why Bass is much faster than Goku and why he’s the strongest being in all of media. Nobody can hope to challenge his brilliance and nothing has been debunked…only reinforced.

     • First off, english speaking people are NOT as fluent in Japanese. Tralsation errors DO happen. Period. So only a fool would solely rely on the english version.

       It was not 30 minutes. Not to mention he was in Super Saiyan 3 which drops the time to 5 minutes by itself. I AM THE DBZ GOD COMPARED TO YOU. Your way is only built to convience you in the argument. Not how it actually works.

       The Saiyans still arrived earlier than expected. Thus it’s irrelant that they waited a long time. Because they arrived earlier than Goku could finish his training which stopping was not good because he had to be prepared.

       Bass is massivley slower than Goku. I’ve already proven why Bass is the biggest failure in all of the worlds media because of you. EVERYTHING you have said has been debunked. You’ve failed.

     • Never said that I was solely relying on it, but it’s pointless to go and check the japanese version every time there is a feat. Who’s to say that the person translating the japanese version on that site is accurate anyway? Errors in the American version are few and far between.

       Gotenks got the usual amount of time and no less. He was simply forced out of his by Hirudegarn’s hit. That’s always how it has worked. None can surpass me in DBZ knowledge. They can only hope to tie me…

       Goku still left as soon as they were found out to be arriving and Goku left. He still had ample time to arrive if he was FTL. Goku is FTL for the sunglasses…debunked

       Nothing has been debunked…only reinforced. Bass is the greatest being in all of media and he’s on a different level than Goku. He solos via quality and via speed. I never fail, I only succeed. I can eat a slice of Pizza in under 5 minutes. I can down a cup of Sprite in under 2 minutes. I can run a city block in a minute, etc. Don’t underestimate the fact that Bass is invincible.

     • The fact is that the Japanese version decides what happens. Because it’s the original source material. And you don’t even know where those errors are. So it’s fully relevant to know the Japanese version over the english version.

       The fact that you claim that SS3 doesn’t drop the time limit is proof of your fake knowledge of Dbz. Compared to you I’m the DBZ king and your the DBZ court jester.

       Goku didn’t finish his training if he did that. Which he did finish it. King Kai told him not to go yet. And Goku, knowing King Kai to be wiser, listened and did that last bit. Which took a few hours. More than enough time for Nappa to kill the others. And if you remember, Goku wanted to conserve ALL his energy. So he used Nimbus instead. Thus he had to make sure he was fully prepared.

       Everything you’ve said was debunked. Bass is the fool of media. You fail because I said so. Because I’m the ultimate debate king of the internet. Due to actually having take classes on debate and spending 6 years training on Moviecodec.com.

       Don’t underestimate the fact that I’m a real debater. You’re a poser. And don’t ever underestimate Bass’s vulnerability. You’ll get your butt handed to you.

     • Yes, but how would you use the japanese version? The subs are still liable to make mistakes. Moreover, obtaining the raws for more obscure stuff like the Spider Man tv show or the Beet manga would be difficult at best. I say that it’s best to use the English version as they know how to use a lot of hype.

       I didn’t say that SSJ3 didn’t drop the timelimit, but that it won’t drop if it’s a weakened SSJ3 or a full powered one. It is common knowledge that it’s shorter for SSJ3, but he didn’t run out of energy. I prefer to think of myself as the ultimate GT level master. You can stick to Z.

       Goku was not light speed as he would have been there in a few seconds to a minute tops. It took him far longer than that by any stretch of the imagination.

       Bass is the best. My views have only been reinforced. (Insert my typical master comment here) 6 years on the Lounge likely just weakened your skills as they take things way too seriously. They had a Badger beat Goku through toon force and I can’t take a lot of the debates seriously. It’s fun to watch, but I can’t say that it helps your resume. I’ve won my fair share of battles on the Lounge as well after all. I tend to crush the opposition and I have the epicness to prove it. You are a good debater, but you are the Yoda to my Starkiller. The Jiraiya to Kakashi. The Kirito to my Gary Stu.

       I’m a master. See, I actually have links to prove this. Who else could debate that Ryoma would defeat Thor?

       Thor vs Ryoma

       I’m totally a real debater and none of us are posers. Bass is invincible so he’s no vulnerable. Think of it like Fig Newton’s. Durable, yet easy to recognize. That’s how Bass rolls. None can stop him and I shall always make sure that he wins the debates

     • The question is how would YOU know the Japanese version? You obviously don’t if you compare it 100% to the english version. And once again you do not use hype as facts in debate. Hype is only propaganda. Not fact.

       And as I said It’s not Gotenks who was weak. It was Goten and Trunks before they fused.

       I’ve already proven how Goku is light speed. And I spent time on the lounge to differentiate between idiots and real debaters. The lounge teaches people things. It takes 6 years to learn what those things are. Which I have learned. And you haven’t. Bass is not the best. Your views have done nothing but go from 0 to below -8000.

       You are the Jar Jar Binks to my Vader. I am so far the king in this debate. You have failed time and time again. I tend to make everyone else look like fools in front of everyone else. This means you as well.

       You see I actually have scans that don’t state a homoerotic Tennis player would defeat an Asgardian god. I have REAL proof. Links to your other bs doesn’t equal to proof. I am a god compared to you.

       Bass is a wimp.

     • Hype is a great way to measure a character. The American version may only change things slightly, but you can think of it as the new canon. If it’s a big change then it’s time to consult both versions and see which one is better.

       It does not matter. As Gotenks, they went back to Full and I repeat…Full power. Hirudegarn was just too powerful.

       No, you proved that you seriously overrate Goku’s speed in that scan. I don’t spend too much time on the Lounge because I tend to disagree with them on a lot of things. I’ve only been there for about 3 years, but I ended up calling the shots. Bass is definitely the best and there aint nobody like Bass except for Bass. None can come close to his skills and pure power. His speed is also on a different level.

       More like you are the Vader to my Boba Fett. I won this debate just like I win on My Nintendo News and on the Crossover Battles site. I seriously don’t go down and I always win my debates with honor and finnesse. Seriously, you are the one who is underestimating my raw power and technique.

       If you’re worried about me having homefield advantage than check out my victory on Factpile.

       http://www.factpile.com/7333-bass-vs-dark-schneider/

       I always win regardless of what site I’m fighting on. I don’t see why you’re making Ryoma sound weak. He’s easily top tier and he could beat Galactus. Bass is the greatest fighter known to man and I proved this a few dozen comments ago. You can’t even compare our Gravatars in terms of epicness. Let’s face it…I am a master debater who also happens to be a master Gamer. I have 13 Platinum Trophies and I never give up when I’m too epic for words. Seriously…I won this debate with this next line. Bass>>>>Anti Man/Galactus/Hypersonic Goku.

     • I’m too busy right now to go along with your fiasco of lunacy so for now It’s gonna be real quick.

       You’re wrong. Canon is source material. Not adaptations.

       That’s not how fusion works. It doesn’t give them their energy back. Potara works like that. Not the dance. There’s more than one type of fusion.

       I spent twice as long as you did on the lounge and I learned far more about debate than you did. The only way you’d be calling the shots is if you created the site. Other than that you are dead wrong. You are no different than the typical scum, as they call their own, of the lounge.

       You also failed in using Boba Fett. Vader is superior to Boba Fett. Force user vs blaster user who couldn’t even finish off Han whom Vader could make out to be a fool.

       You never win debates. Because to win you have to prove yourself correct. Agreeing with you doesn’t mean you’ve won the debate. You’ve only won a few meaningless battles in a war. I don’t lose debates simply because I actually use scans with massive levels of deductive reasoning (I was tutored specifically on that by my senior year teacher. So basically the stuff used by Sherlock Holmes) against people who use scans without even looking at them properly. You are forgetting what equates to superiority. And that is overall training and experience in debate. I have genuine real experience in actual debates. I debated with my high schools own student body on why they should suspend everyone who gathers around a fight (The people cheering them on were going to be suspended just for being there until I came around and stopped it)., You are basically a self taught Padawan and I am the supreme leader of the Jedi supreme council in this situation.

       And saying he is superior over and over again with no context to your post other than that is not how people resolve debates. The only reason anyone would agree is to shut up the spam of redundant useless comments you make.

       Seriously. I win the debate with logic, reasoning, and overall being more intelligent in real life debate. And having the most experience. Robin doesn’t win against Batman just because. You are Robin in this case and I’m a Batman with years of experience in crime fighting and overall skills.

     • Canon is really what makes sense. Sonic Chronicles, Archie Comics, and Sonic DX are all canon if you really think about it. The english versions are accurate enough to be used in a serious debate for a seriously large scale feat. Going straight to the source is unnecessary.

       All right…show me proof that they differ in that respect. Both fusions give you full power when activated. It’s classic DBZ knowledge based off of his showing against Janemba.

       You spent more time there, but my time there was more legendary. I just jumped right in. No learning the ropes…no, that’s not for me. I just jumped right in and one shotted all debaters who stood in my way. By the end, they were all basically admitting that Bass could easily take Frieza down for the count. That was my debating skills at work.

       Yeah…that was basically a parody since Boba Fett can’t beat Dark Vader. His blaster is a pretty good weapon though and it would work if Vader let his guard down.

       So…you convinced the student council to stop the cheerers from being suspended? I would definitely disagree with you there since they are just as guilty for not breaking up the fight. (Unless the student had a gun or something) Now, Sherlock Holmes is cool and all, but he would have winced at my deductive skills. In this case, you would be Ra’s Al Ghul and I would be Deathstroke. Knowing a bunch of debating skills isn’t the same as knowing when to use them. I always have appropriate links and scans at the ready, which is why I win. I am superiority incarnate so I can’t forget the meaning. I don’t just win a few battles in the war, I strategically win the battles that matter. I’ve never lost a debate.

       Bass is the greatest. That’s really all the context that I need sometimes. My comments are always well thought out. “Well met DReager1” is something that my opponents are liable to say in the end.

       I gotta disagree on all of those points. I have more real life experience thanks to my constant trips to Burger King where I have to debate between what to order and what to leave. You have a lot of reasoning, but all of the feats in the world can’t save you when you’re in an impossible debate. None can defeat Bass because he is too great. A good example is toast and the toaster. You can have the best toast in the world, but it won’t be ready to eat unless you have a toaster. I’m the toaster and you’re merely the toast that is waiting to be toasted into an ultimate debater. Either way Bass has this.

     • Not everything is canon. Otherwise canon becomes moot and contradicted. Which it never does because there is only one canon to everything. The games in Sonics case. Everything else is just spin offs and fanfiction. Going straight to the source is everything and you are wrong and a waste of space for not realizing this.

       It says here that Ki is everything with the fusion dance.
       http://www.mangapanda.com/105-3123-3/dragon-ball/chapter-474.html
       And this is all factful lawful knowledge based on the truth that only one fusion dance was seen in the manga ever in the series. Gotenks. And Gogeta didn’t even stay fused for more than a minute or two. So that’s moot.

       The only stuff you ever were legendary for was your infamous ass sucking debate failures. Screaming out stuff like

       “OH DARKNESS OVERLOAD!!!” “BEAST OUT!!!” “HUBSTYLE!!!!” “GET ABILITY!!!”

       IS not giving proof. You just keep spewing self conceived fallacies of the most asinine order.
       I win debates by actually being a debater. Not a screaming ragin fanboy of Bass.

       The difference between that is that they would be suspended even for walking near the fight and looking to see what it was. Thus I was right for stopping them. Breaking up the fight leads only to getting more involved. What happense when they decide to fight you instead? You just don’t break it up because you lack the proper authority in the school.

       The problem is that Knowing when to use them is not the same as having them. And you don’t know when to use them. Because all you do is spew fallacies like a little girl screaming about Justin Bieber. You’ve lost every debate. No… The debates never even started at all to begin with because you never give legit scans that have no ambiguity. The scans I give all show physical feats that can be proven on paper. Seeing someone move isn’t the same as seeing the actual fact that Goku moved faster than a burst of light from Tiens solar flare (WHO HAD ALL HIS EYES OPEN AT ONCE).

       Bass is the failure of the media world. The weakest malnurished animal in the bunch. The context you need is not the context a debate needs. You are not the one who is the authority on debate. EVERYONE NEEDS REAL CONTEXT. Not your opinion.

       I have to disagree and put you down foolMy years of debating in school, at EVERY fast food resturaunt across the county (Took many trips before), at gas stations (Over gas prices) AND on the most debated sites ever forever trumps your fake experience in being a fool. You’re a failure and disgrace to the debate world and all the fangams in the world won’t save you from my heavens mandated by god scans and feats. Millions if not everyone can defeat Bass who bows before their might like the fake guy he is.

       THIS is how the world works in debate. Compared to you, you are merely the crumbs of the toast that come off from age old flossing of ones teeth, and I am the god of the debate world, spinning everything in motion. Either way, my godly mandate of the heavens of the debate world deems you a heretic, blasphemous, protestant, pig sow. My feats and scans are the bible and you are the fallen angel of sin who fell from the heavens.

     • Nah, everything is equally canon unless it contradicts canon. Just look at Sonic Boom, Sonic Boom. “Save the planet from destruction” It’s a pretty great song at the beginning of Sonic CD and fans wondered for years whether we would actually see those events. Now we have a whole TV show for it! I can’t be wrong when I am right and I can’t be right when I was already right. That’s how I see it anyway…

       You took that scan out of context. The energy has to be on the same level so that the fusion can work. It doesn’t mean that their time limit will be reduced at all. They may just end up deformed like with Gogeta. Think about it…it makes sense. Hirudegarn just knocked them out of it because he was so powerful, similar to Shademan vs Megaman and Protoman in Megaman/Rockman NT Warrior Axess Episode 27.

       I am legendary for that because those techniques are epic. That is proof and I always win my debates. I do it without trying to look too much into the feats. I can glance at a match and determine the outcome because I am just so hardcore/epic. It’s just who I am at this point if you really think about it. I’m Bass’ biggest fan and I’m proud of this. It shows how far I have come.

       Hm, I dunno. That’s pretty debatable. If you’re “checking the fight out” then you’re basically encouraging it. Nothing’s worse than getting beaten up on by a few bullies and seeing many other classmates just watching. Allowing a big injustice to be committed is very bad and comparable to the crime. Example: One guy starts throwing students to the ground. The watcher could have helped, but decides to go to the cafeteria for more snacks. He could have helped them and maybe he would have gotten beaten up as well, but the odds of winning would be greater for the victims. I believe that they should all be penalized for allowing that to happen. Especially if it’s a large group.

       Seeing someone state that Bass is FTL is much better than a debatable scan showing a character outrun an allegedly light speed attack without any proof. Not all bursts of light are created equally. I never use fallacies and I prefer sourdough bread to rye. I defend Bass so much because the world was not yet ready for his overwhelming and unstoppable abilities. He is the top ranked fighter on the blog and that’s because he is invincible. No being can even hope to match him at this point and Justin Bieber is so last year. Think of the debates from Gary’s point of view. I definitely won all of them before they even began.

       Bass creams the competition. Just look at his character design. It’s at least 20% cooler (My Little Pony reference. Man, now That is a 5 star quality show. Talking about the new Friendship is Magic one of course) than the others and his voice is epic as well. I always have authority in the debates because I’m always winning. What more context do I need? I showed that Bass is massively FTL. I showed that his Get Ability works through combat and that he doesn’t need to defeat an opponent. Finally, I showed his durability and attack power through the Megaman fight. I have debunked all of the Galactus attempts so Bass is still the strongest being in all of media.

       Nobody can defeat Bass. It’s just how it works. Those years of debating experience are decent, but have you ever had to debate between Apples and Oranges? Apples are clearly superior, but it can take a lot of evidence and facts to prove this. Debating over gas prices is good, but I don’t even own a car since I don’t like driving so I haven’t had the opportunity. I debate between which donut to buy all of the time though. The Lounge and my own site are really all of the debating experience that I need in the long run. You saw how I owned the Ryoma vs Thor battle and that’s just the start. I never go down and I’m always ready to shoot for the top.

       Remember….All toasters…toast….toast! Get the pun? Basically, I revolutionized debating as we know it. Without me, there wouldn’t even be any debates anymore. Everyone strives to surpass me in this activity and it’s a tough goal. I never hold back and I always win. I’ve been owning in Bass debates for days at this point. I have proved that he is the strongest being in all of media. Real life experience is good, but virtual experience can be just as effective as well as the powers of positive thinking. I am the Pen and you are the pencil. I am the Desktop and you are the Laptop. I am Gary Stu and you are Alex Hopper. None can challenge my intellectual abilities!

     • And yet it always does. Except in cases like GT to Z. Archie Sonic contradicts everything to the games and the original comics contradicts the games as well with Sonic and Super Sonic being two seperate characters. Only the source material is canon. Everything else is a spin off. And once again you prove your idiocy by claiming that the awesomeness of a song decides the title of canon. Your way is wrong with a capital W. Because we don’t HAVE a Sonic CD TV show. We had an OVA with Metal in it and that’s all.

       Nope. Your wrong. I didn’t take the scan out of context. It proved that energy has everything to do with it. No energy, then no fusion or less time. Otherwise they wouldn’t have to wait for an hour to recharge for it. It drains so much energy and they need to rechage. Same case as if they were already weakened to begin with.

       You are only legendary for having techniques that epically failed. Being the kind of immature Justin Bieber fangirl equivalent that you are only degrades the process of human evolution. You are a disgrace to Bass for wanting to do nothing but do awful things.

       And this is also where you are wrong. You say they should break it up. But there’s nothing forcefully willing the original opponents to turn their fists on anyone who tries to stop them. Hence why the suspensions have to stop when there’s literally a no win situation.

       If there isn’t a crowd, then no one knows the fights taking place. Ifeveryone gets suspended just for touching any of the combatants then they get suspended. It’s nothing but lose and fail on their part and I had to step in with my godhood of debating skills. There is no pride in losing a chance at an education by being expelled for too many suspensions when all they try to do is to make noise which attracts lazy teachers and authority to it when they should have been on patrol.

       Stating is NEVER better than showing the right way. And you haven’t shown anyone anything the right way. You never prove whether the statements are correct or not. You never use physical observations to prove anything. You fail just by speaking. And all you do is state stuff like “He has Darkness Overload” which means nothing to a character where Darkness Overload is a name and not a part of terminology or any kind special meaning to their realm. Bass will never have any hope of winning anything. Not with you going around. He’s the top ranked fighter on your blog only because you want that to happen. He’s not the top ranked on anyone elses blog. Except maybe alternative accounts you made. Look at it from the REAL WORLDS point of view. The only point of view that matters. You are a simple human neanderthal who knows nothing of real debate.

       You have no authority in debates. Because you don’t win anything. And because I am the mighty Yahwee of the debate world. I am the mighty crafter of the cosmos of debate and have deemed you as a sinner. And you will not be saved. You showed stuff. You showed your own asinine opinion. Bass’s design has nothing to do with actual combat debates. If you want to debate him as a better character then by all means you can be as right as you want. But in combat debates you have no authority nor can you prove anything. Because you have done nothing but disgrace the church of debate with your blasphemy. And MLP is for little girls and old men who want to play with ponies. If you want to play with a pony then by all means keep your opinions of MLP off the blogs and posts.
       And you still can’t trump my debate experience with any of the mediocre daily life debates you go through. I had to debate one time when I was staying a summer over with some family in Alaska. I had to debate to whether to get dressed from a showe and then save the cat who was drowning in a practically artic tempature nearby lake, or jump in with nothing on and risk an even bigger chance of getting hypothermia. Never again did my balls feel the same when swimming. So as you can see not only did I make far more powerful and drastic choices (Which I wasn’t joking about the situation) but also more effective choices. Why risk letting the cat die of hypothermia instead of me?

       Nobody can challenge bass in terms of failure. But everyone can challenge and easily overcome him in combat. And once again you prove your worthlessness. No one strives to surpass you in any category. Because they always were born surpassing you. No one even has to try 10% to debunk you. You are a failure for going 100% and losing against everyone else who only used 10%. As for me I’m not even using 0.1% of my full power. Positive thinking does not include arrogance that delves into narcissism. I’ve been owning at every debate I’ve ever been in. And you forget that the pencils last longer and can erase mistakes. You however lack both of those abilities in most cases. But in all cases the pencils last longer than you ever do. I am the holy father of the debate world and you are the candles that I will alive everyday with the holy flame as I burn your evil wax away from this world..

     • I was referring to the new Sonic Boom show that is set to air soon. I’ll be watching it from Day 1 BTW. Non canon is an interesting angle, but I like to think that it still takes place in the multiverse so it is all canon in the end. I don’t see why we have to distinguish between canon and non canon unless it’s a parody. I’m just displaying my epic reading comprehension.

       Lol, you totally misread the quote. They just can’t fuse if their energies are on a different level. If both of them are supremely weakened, it will still work and both of the fighters will regain their health in the fused state. #exposed

       No, my techniques always work. I’m legendary for getting to the bottom of a problem and solving it with quick and total accuracy. I’m not sure why you’re so obsessed with Justin Bieber, but I can’t say that I’m a fan of his songs. Generalizing all of his fans as fangirls is pretty extreme though and not an accurate way of looking at things. I’m Bass’ biggest supporter and I’ve been winning debates with him for years.

       Eh, I don’t agree with your rationale, but I’ll let it slide.

       I disagree. Statements are the best. Remember when Cell stated that he could blow up a solar system? That was much more impressive than if he had just shot a random blast and everyone could downplay the blast to planet level. Statements can’t be changed and that’s the important part. Shown feats are always up to interpretation, which make them risky. I prefer to look at shown feats, but don’t underestimate statements. I’m a great debater. Darkness Overload is an amazing technique, which can mow down all opponents in Bass’ way. It’s why I always mention it. Bass is the top ranked fighter on my blog because he has been proven to be the strongest. Just look at leh feats. I don’t use alt accounts. I proudly call myself DReager1 every time. It’s what I do….it’s why I’m here. My point of view>>>>Real World’s point of view.

       Bass’ design is great. It strikes fear into the hearts of many and he could probably win a few times by taking a nap while his opponents run away. Design can definitely be a factor in debates. I am the rubber band and you are the jawbreakers. I am the Mmario Power Tennis and you are the cover. I always win my debates and that’s why I’m basically the best. But…why bash MLP?

       MLP…better know as My Little Pony, is a seriously good show. The fact that you believe it is only intended for those audiences makes you lose a lot of credibility. It’s a great show for everyone and one can proudly be called a Brony because they can be noble. Who doesn’t smile when Pinkie Pie finally gets to have her say. Fluttershy is a pretty well rounded character as well. Derpy represents the human race and Applejacks is a great pony. Everypony has their good moments and even the songs are nice. It’s no exaggeration to say that it is the best show about talking animals right now. Why do you think it got so popular? It’s because My Little Pony reeks of quality. One can seriously never get enough of it. So, let’s no bash MLP. It just doesn’t make sense and the facts point towards it being great.

       Yeah right, I don’t believe that for a second. I’d sooner believe that you went to your local Pizza shop and asked if you could have a slice of pepperoni pizza with a slice of spinage pizza! This makes me doubt the last few feats….Nontheless, my experience is still supreme. Bass always wins and he has his Earthbreaker technique. I’ve proven this many times in the past.

       Combat wise, Bass is the best. If everyone is surpassing me then I was ahead of them…#exposed. I’m always on the top. I could tell that you were at 0.1% since this debate isn’t even a challenge at this point. I already showed evidence of Bass’ speed, power, and overall epicness. What more can I do, but watch as I win this debate with my eyes closed? It’s like going to Chucky Cheese and getting a large pie. It’s pricey, but very effective as it quickly stops the skeptics from trying to surpass me. Bass will always be the best and he’s as durable as a piece of sliced bread. The bread can stay together through butter and ketchup. Bass will always be the best character and I’m the best debater. Those are irrefutable facts sir….just sayin. Arrogance>>>>>>>Facts when placed at the right time. That being said, my points were facts. My 100% is the best 100% that there is. Pens are better than Pencils. It’s like saying that the Xbox One can’t do 1080P and 60FPS on every game if it really wanted to. Don’t underestimate technology and don’t underestimate Reager….DReager1!

     • It’s not canon and Sonic Boom is not a show about Sonic CD. It’s a show with a new game coming out for it. You’re only displaying your ego and your desire to try and manipulate facts and truth to meet your convenience

       And I still proved it has plenty to do with energy. It’s not just fusing. If they don’t have the energy, they won’t fuse. And if they fuse when they are low on enegy then it won’t last long at all. #Dreager1Fails@Life.

       Your techniques are failures. ALL OF THEM. My technique with debate trumps your technique of just saying “Darkness Overload”. You’ve never won any debates with him. Because he doesn’t want to win with you since he sees how weak a debater you are. You ARE NOT the one who will quell his hatred of other characters. You ARE NOT his chosen one. You are his anti-Bass because of how much of a failure you are..

       Saying that it can do so and so is not the same as actually proving it. I win based on the fact that I prove it or rather present REAL evidence. Rather than presenting ambiguous bullshit, I present things that are of a simple nature to understand. Solar flare is a burst of light. Goku moved faster than light by grabbing the glasses before it hit him. And Tien would not have attacked if Goku took his time because of these reasons.

       A: The only time Goku would have had was before Tien used the technique. And Tien had his eyes open the whole time.

       B: Tien would NEVER take his eyes off of Goku. He is a honed fighter and would never give the opponent, let alone an opponent he views as worthy, time to do whatever by taking his yes off of him.
       C: A burst of light is still light. ALL light travels the same. It takes 8 seconds or 8 minutes essentially for light to travel from the sun and onto the earth. With Goku being RIGHT UP IN FRONT of the burst of light from Tien he had to have moved faster than light.

       Thus my proof always trumps your statements. Hyperbole never trumps the kind of easy to understand yet existential godly proof I just gave you. Your point of view is fantasy. The worlds point of view is law. You lose simply because it’s law.

       Design can only be a factor in quality debates. Not combat debates. And the jawbreaker trumps the ruber band any day. The rubber band can break. The jawbreaker cannot. I am the god and you are the lowly traitor to Christ, Judas.

       MLP still sucks. Because the only fanbase it has seems to be little kids and men who want to play with ponies. Thus it doesn’t posses even half the quality fans you claim.

       And I don’t care if you don’t believe me on the saving the cat thing. It still happened. Because it did. And if you have a problem with that, then tell me where you live. I’ll be sure to drop by you and we can have a contest on debates in real life and see just what I’m willing to debate on. Course it’ll have to wait until I can get the money to travel. Unless you pay for the trip.Nonetheless my experience is still god and you are still just the lowly traitor to the holy spirit Judas. You’ve proven nothing. I have mandated it through my infinite wisdom and heavenly power of debate.

       You once again fail to support Bass. I am still the god of the debate world. You fail. You never stood a chance against anyone #DebateFailure. What more can you do other than lose is the real question. And the answer is nothing. The only hope you have is that hopefully Bass finds it within himself to lower himself. A pie does nothing. A pizza stops everything. I always order a Pizza. Because that’s what the kids like. And I like to be a nice guy and share the pizza. Hence why I’m far superior wherever I go. Your 100% is only 100%. My 100% is equal to infinite skills points in all aspects of the RPG called life. I am god of the debate world. You are the scum that has fallen from the heavens. The pencils will last forever. The pens will die from overuse. And bread is still weak. Bread is nothing when even a new born baby can tear it to shreds. Bass is a loser and you are an even bigger one for trying to support him with your failures of debate. Your scans are fake and my scans are supreme. Get over it and be cast into the purgatory of debate where, hopefully, you will be cleansed of your vile blasphemous sins.

     • You seem to be losing your cool…which proves that I am winning. Let’s talk about My Little Pony first. I’m not sure where you got the idea that it wasn’t an epic show..but it is. Rainbow Dash is extremely hardcore and she’s the kind of pony that you have to root for. She’s confident and charismatic. Fluttershy is the nice one of the group and Pinkie Pie is basically perfect. The show does a good job of mixing up the emotional moments with some happy scenes and even a few tragic ones. Who didn’t cry with the ponies when the friends were shutting them out? My Little Pony is a show that really speaks to your heart. I hope that it never ends and you should see an episode. Heh…you can’t help but sing along once you’ve heard the songs enough times. On your 3rd time through the series, you’ll be an expert!

       The new film is coming out in theaters soon by the way so I recommend checking it out. Derpy isn’t in it unfortunately, but the ponies become humanoid so it’s an interesting twist. Know what I mean? No video games for the show have come out yet, but I’m waiting for a Pony fighting game.

       Bass is the greatest character of all time! Think of it from Mini’s point of view. (That’s my dog btw) I’ve already proved that he’s the best so I don’t really need to mention that too many more times.

       Pizza is great, but only when you have pepperoni and a steak involved. Pepperoni Pizza is and always will be…the best pizza. I admit that you almost put up a good fight in this debate, but I had the battle in hand from the start. I always win and it’s easy to see why. My debating skills are flawless. I’m the Gary and you’re the Stew. I always jump in and save the planet from destruction. Have you ever played the Barbie Horse game for the computer? I didn’t think so! You still have a ways to go my friend. Watch an episode of MLP…then we’ll talk. I already disproved all of your energy and FTL theories so we’re set on that end. Looks like it’s pwning time for me once again. #Burned #Exposed #WiiU #WiiHaveNoGamesForU #Playstation4 #XboxvsMe etc. My debating skills are like grated cheese. Broken, but effective nontheless. Jawbreakers are no match for the intelligence of a rubber band.

       Also, you seem to have underestimated Sonic Boom. It’s a show that I aim to watch from Day 1. Humor and action…it has all of it. Darkness Overload could take out any long range threats for Bass while his Dark Arm Blade is good from up close. Goku and friends are skilled enough to defeat Galactus, but not Bass. It’s like my local pizza shop. All taste and no substance. Well, to be fair…it’s actually quite good. It’s like going to a steakhouse and ordering a bowl of macaroni and cheese from the debating site where Bass took the win in a single shot because he has been proven to be the strongest being of all time as shown by DReager1 in his many exploits over the last 5 years. That was a mouthful eh? I guess I’ll stop here, but I’m the greatest debater ever. #ModestyApproved and Bass is the best character ever as well. We are the ultimate team. #MLPAndBassAreEpic

     • There is nothing epic about cheerleading ponies yelling like neanderthals. Would have been more epic if you said the ponies died and their pony comrades killed the enemies in revenge. That’s epic. Not this pre K stuff. I’m already an expert enough to know you fail.

       You saying you’ve proven it is not the same as doing it. You’ve never given steps to your proof like I did. I won the whole scan argument a long time ago.

       And Bass being the greatest character is one thing. The strongest is another. Which he isn’t. Because you failed to prove it. Nothing you have done won anything. I couldn’t possibly admit you won simply because you didn’t. You are a failure of debate. I am the god of the debate world in this situation. And you playing the Barbie Horse game doesn’t change your debate skills or make them greater. #YouFail@GameLife&Debate #I’mGodOfDebate&You’reTheLowlyJudasOfDebate #JawBreakersWin&RubberBandsBreak&WillNeverWin

       Also you seem to be mixing up awesomeness of a show with canon. They don’t corelate. Sonic Boom is not canon to the games other than it’s own game. Sonic CD has nothing to do with it.

       Bass will never win against Goku or anyone you can think of. And anyone who agrees with me is superior to you. Because it’s like this. Those who agree with me are like the people who actually order food from the menu of a restaurant unlike the people who go to your site and think they see food on it to order when it’s just failed debates. One actually orders food. The other orders food from a restaurant that says no because they don’t sell that or they end up ordering from a place that isn’t even a restaurant.

       Goku always wins against Bass and Bass always loses everytime against anyone.

       #WhatYouHaveSaidIsTheExactOppositeOfModesty and Bass is a coward compared to Goku. You are the ultimate fail team ever created. #MLPSucksAndBassSucksBecauseHeOnlyHasYouToWorkWithAndPukesEveryTimeHeLooksAtYou.

       Go ahead and stop. That’s what everyone else does with you anyways when they have enough of debating with a failure. But that’s apparently what you call a victory. So victory for me either way. Based on your fake logic. So suck it Judas. God has spoken.

     • You know, I end up editing out the non family friendly insults anyway so you don’t really need to bother with them. Let’s keep things civil….

       I think you still have the wrong impression of My (Epic) Little (With a big heart) Pony. We don’t want any of the ponies to die. They’re all too….epic for that. Think of the sing alongs that we would miss along the way? Or the happy adventures with the main 6. Those can’t really be replaced if that happened. The My Little Pony show is awesome. Why do you think a super hardcore blog that reports on Godzilla and Resistance would say this about My Little Pony?

       http://destroyers-editorialsandreviews.blogspot.com/2012/08/why-my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic.html

       It’s because it’s just that good! My Little Pony is extremely great and you just need to give it a chance. I’m confident that you would finally realize how awesome it is and this knowledge would change your life and your world view points.

       I did prove it so I’m not just saying it. I completely and totally won the scan argument before you gave up and retreated into the newer form of debates. Let’s face it, I always win.

       I already proved that Bass is objectively the best character of all time as well as the strongest. I am the success of a debate and I always win. Once you admit that I have the edge…then it’ll be game over. The Barbie Horse game is a representation of my abilities. Epic graphics and all. If we’re gonna play with hash tags….#RubberbandsAreEpic. Think of it from everyone’s point of view. Rubber bands can be used for daily life while jawbreakers are one and done. They can never truly win and only get a few #burns at most.

       Awesomeness and canon definitely correlate. Take Sonic Adventure 2 Battle and Sonic Unleashed. Both are canon, but Adventure 2 Battle is much better, thus is has a higher standing in the canon. Sonic Boom takes place in another dimension, but it’s still canon in the multiverse.

       Bass always wins. It would be cool if you could order from my site…but that would be tough.

       Whoa, let’s not bash My Little Pony! #MLPFTW Thing of it from my point of view. The Ponies are extremely awesome and we can safely say that they are at least 20% (My Little Pony reference! LOL) cooler than most other characters. That’s a whole 20%! The show has several seasons and two movies as well. Even if we don’t count the fact that it’s pretty awesome, the truth would get out with the next episode.

       I never stop, which is why I always win. Trust me, you’re the only one who has lost this debate and it all started with…My Little Pony! (I never get tired of saying that..LOL =)) Things change…when you don’t expect them too.

       In closing…Bass is the greatest. It’s easy to forget that this debate is in the Anti Man vs Bass battle, but it should be noted that the Anti Man can’t win. Bass can also beat Goku and Goku would beat Galactus. Basically, I am Tony Romo to your Rex Grossman. I am Dasani Water to your Poland Springs. I am D(Epic)Reager1(00) to your Murakamikai. I am the master debater and I proved this around 60 comments ago. Trust me…it’s just how I roll. There will always be winners and almost winners. I just happen to have won this debate. I’m still modest because I don’t really brag much. Only when there is really no other choice for me.

     • You have proven nothing but your own foolishness. Blogs are not proof of awesomeness.

       Let’s face it. I was the last one to give an actual scan (Tien solar flar scans) so I won the scan debate. You failed faster than anyone could possibly fail.

       You are the biggest fail of debate there ever was. You did not prove Bass to be the strongest with your bs scans. And think of it like this. If people were given a choice between a life time supply of rubber bands or jawbreakers, they’d choose the jawbreakers. Because they’re more durable and last in the end. They don’t break #RubberBandsAreForWimpsLikeYou.

       Awesomeness and canon do not corelate. You are officially academically retarded to think that. There is no standing in canon. All that is canon is canon and all that is not is not. SA2 is canon because it doesn’t clash with the previous canon. Sonic Unleashed is not because it DOES clash with the canon in some ways. It’s not going to be canon unless you can get rid of those clashes. A multiverse is only canon if confirmed by the creators of the original source material. There is only a multiverse in theory. And if the Archie Comics have a bunch of multiverses then it’s not canon because it clashes with the original source material.

       It would be cool if you could order food from a site. But you can’t. And Bass’s chances of winning are as high as the chance tgat the ability to order food from your site exists. Which it doesn’t. Bass loses.

       MLP still sucks. #MLPSucks.

       Trust me when I say that you decide nothing. I decide everything. Because I’m the logical one here. I am the god of the debate and you are the lowly Judas. So try. Go ahead. If you always win then this would have ended after the first comment. Which it hasn’t. Because you lost and I won.

       In closing Bass is cheap and the weakest. Because of the sole fact that you are his only debater. Get me someone else and I might see differently. But you are the biggest fail in debate since George W Bush. NUKULAR ENARGY!!! I just was destined to win this debate. Period. There is no win for you. You are the one who’s always calling yourself the greatest no matter where you are. You are not modest. #YouAreANarcacissticFool.

     • Blogs are proof of awesomeness. I’m getting deja vu from this post.

       MLP is awesome. #FriendshipIsMagic

       Rubber Bands are awesome. SA 2 is epic. Bass always wins. Think about it. My scans were better than your so I won.

       I can’t even………………………………………………………….

       Bass is epic. Trust me, I won the debate…you just don’t know it yet. Gonna take a nap and remember the good ole Bass days in a few hours. This post is all over the place because I haven’t had my snickers yet. I’ll keep you posted. Yeah…I’ll have more of a real reply coming up tonight.

       Just remember that George W Bush was one of the greatest Presidents that the US ever had. I’m not sure if I should even bother going into politics with you at this point though….still, you must not remember all of the good that he did for our country. He started the big turnaround to get us more jobs and began to fix the economy. He really did good considering the state that the USA was in before he took office. Anyway, I am modest. I just happen to have beauty and brains. That’s a tagline from a manga that I read a while back. I already won this debate and Bass is off the walls epic. Just sleep on that for a while…you’ll see….Bass can’t be stopped.

     • Blogs are not proof of anything other than social impression. Not factual evidence of a characters strengths.

       MLP sucks #FriendshipisforRL&notcartoons

       MLP sucks. SA2 being awesome means nothing other than that. Bass fails. My scans are superior. Yours are failures.#YourScansAreTheBiggestEpicFailOfAllTime.
       And rubber bands still pale in comparison to jawbreakers.

       Just face it. You lost. Bass lost. It’s over. It’s not a debate anymore since I won. It’s just you being a fanboy and me telling you how pathetic it sounds.

       George W Bush is the one who messed our economy up. Nobody even remembers his father because of his failures. Just like how nobody remembers Bass’s REAL moments because of your failures. He’s not as strong as you claim. And thanks to you spewing nothing but fake stuff, no one remembers his true moments of shining glory in the series itself. Bush sucks because he put us in a bad economy. Republican nutjobs are failures. Just like you. You are not modest. Modest people do not proclaim their beauty and brains. You have lost this debate. I am the god of debate and you are the filthy Judas traitor to the true path of debate. And it doesn’t matter whether you sleep or not. You already know you lost. You already see that Bass is a loser to Goku and Galactus and so many others. You’re just some fool in denial due to your own fanboyness. Bass is always stopped. No matter what.

     • I don’t know how you could actually say that with a straight face. All evidence is usually found on the blog’s since they’re written by experts like me who compile the data and show what’s up.

       MLP is awesome. Friendship is for real life and cartoons. Check out this video to see how I just #exposed and #burned you.

       A life without ponies would be devastating and that video addressed all of the key points that we will ever need. The ponies are just too cool and that’s what counts.

       My scans and proof of my debating hardships were great. You’re the one who seems to have forgotten who you are dealing with here. Jawbreakers are tough, but they melt over time. Rubber Bands are basically eternal. Bass is awesome btw.

       I admit that you almost gave me a run for my money with these bold statements, but I have a counter. I won the debate from the beginning. #WiiHaveNoGamesForU Ever hear of that line before? It’s a pun on the Wii U’s name and it’s fitting for this scenario. I won and Bass also won.

       You must not read the Daily News every other year like I almost do. George W Bush was a pioneer and he basically kept our integrity. You know what messed our economy up? The people who doubted Bass’ immortal abilities. Bass is the strongest and we could have kept our economy afloat if we realized this and didn’t try to take on so many loans. Bass is amazing…amazing! Republicans can be hard core just like any other group. They’re all good people when they’re good people. I got a few winks from my sleep and it woke me up a little inside. You can’t win the debate because you don’t like the ponies.

       You’ll never know that happy feeling that you get when you buy your first MLP plushie. You’ll never be able to transcend your abilities. I am modest, but even I have to admit that I have beauty and brains. It takes courage to admit that I’m so epic and cool when it would be easier to stay quiet about it. Bass easily crushes all opponents and I’m never in denial of the facts.

       You underestimate Bass and you underestimate the ponies. I’m guessing that you’re never even played Flappy Bird. Why do you deny change and the ultimate upheaval of the Burger King and Mcdonalds rivalry? The new Jalapeno Double Cheeseburger was a good move on their part and it should be applauded. Think of it from Gary’s point or view or even mine. The more food options that are available, the better.

       I’ll admit that Wendy’s temporarily passed McDonald’s for the best burger in town, but that was as temporary as the 5 dollar fill em ups at KFC. I have yet to try it, but it’s supposed to be Amazing. Just like Famiglia when you arrive during lunch hour. The pizza is top rate and you can’t underestimate it for even a second. That’s just how it rolls and it’s how I roll. Think of all the pizza that I could buy with 5 dollars? It’s an epic thought and not something that you want to forget. George W Bush was a great president and it’s too bad that the new Soda Ban was not approved. That would have been amazing to see everyone with small cups. It would have made the world a healthier place.

       In short, Bass is the greatest character ever and I am the coolest, smartest, happiest debater of them all. I shall never lose as long as I have my hashtags. #DReagerIsCool

     • You’re nothing but a fool. People like you are the reason this country sucks. Because you thinnk Bass is strong when he’s weak and thinking he has anything to do with polotics.

       MLP still sucks. Actual statistics show that 90% of the fanbase would be bad men who lick ice cream from macdonalds. Rubber bands die out with each use and die within a few uses. Jwabreakers stay good or a long time. #Basssucks #YouLose&Life.

       I won this debate before it even started. I already stated and proved I was destined to win. Because I am the god of debate. My scans are superior and they are the holy bible of debate.

       You can’t win a debate just because you like ponies and Bass. stuff don’t work like that fool. I won through sheer debate godhood. You lost through sheer debate failure. Why do you think change in resturaunts has anything to do with Bass? For shame. Bass is ashamed of you for comparing him to fast food resturaunts. You sad sack of poor debate skills.

       In short, Bush sucks due to messing our economy up, and Bass sucks because he isn’t going to win and he has such a cheap debater as you for support.

       You are not worthy of even someone as weak as Bass. You’re not even worth of laying your eyes upon him let alone stronger characters. You’re not even worthy enough to live in the same era as the age where people know about Megaman. You fail in debate for life! It’s a little known fact amongst all who know or will know you from this day forward.

     • I have to stop you there bud. I am everything but a fool. See, if you had said “You’re nothing, but a fool” then that would make sense. What you said basically means that I am not a fool. The Unites States is pretty cool and it’s people like me that help it. Trust me, Bass is politics and he’s the toughest guy on wheels…or was it deals? It doesn’t really matter either way though. That’s the way I’m playin…just sayin.

       MLP is awesome. Clearly the video went over your head. Do you not comprehend the awesomeness of the ponies? I don’t believe that study. Do you have any actual proof or did I just outdebate you again? #Burned #Exposed I like McDonald’s Ice cream by the way so I don’t see what the problem is. Ever try their Hot Fudge Sundae? It’s brilliant! The McFlurries are good as well and we can’t forget about the Frappes. #Exposed Jawbreakers turn sour very quickly and taffy is more durable.

       I already won this debate sir. Just think of it as my brilliance that surpasses your debating tactics. Skillz will always beat scans that don’t have enough facts behind them. I always win.

       Liking Bass and the ponies gives me the clear edge. They’ve got all kinds of messages in the shows that make you a better person. Restauraunts are epic and that will never change. I am more than just a debater…I am DReager1!

       George W Bush is epic sir. I learned that the Wikipedia way! Bass is amazing.

       Trust me, Bass is amazing. He’s great. Bass is awesome. He’s talented. Bass is cool. You know why you can’t win this debate? You can’t win because Bass is invincible. Without him we’re all basically toast. Not just toast sir, but basically toast. It’s a pretty big difference. Ever tried to turn on the grill to grill up a few slices of bread? It’s not as easy as it sounds and you can burn the pieces of toast if you aren’t careful. That’s what happened to you in this debate. You got #burned as I debated how cool Bass was. I #Exposed your arguments by bringing up Bass’ invincible speed and overwhelming power. None can stop him and you want to know why? It’s because he’s the best deals on wheelz. He has the speed and he has the Get Ability. His Darkness Overload could take out a planet without any real effort. That’s the kind of power that Bass has at his disposal. It’s uncanny, but it’s also pretty epic. Now that’s what I’m talking about! Remember the battle of Bunker Hill? The Americans won that battle because of their determination. Bass has that kind of determination as well. Remember Rainbow Dash or Strawberry Shortcake? Just because things did not go their way, they never gave up. I don’t know why you’re still trying to use “Hardcore” terms in our debate, but you needn’t bother. I edit them out to keep the site family friendly anyway. Ever been to McDonald’s for a McChicken? That’s how our debate went. I was the invincible cashier and you were the customer. I was the server and you were the taker. I was the MdDonalds and you were the chairs. I was Gary Stew and you were Murakamikai. You just can’t overestimate your debating abilities and I believe that this is what happened. It’s a lot like the Dallas Cowboys.

       The Dallas Cowboys are the greatest team in the NFL. They’ve proved this year after year after year. Once Tony Romo joined the club, I knew that we were destined for great things. We’re winning the Super Bowl this year btw. Did you see how we took care of the Broncos? They only won by a small amount in the end and we basically gave them the win so that they could lost the big game. This year, we’re going all of the way. With an all star Wide Receiver in Dez Bryant and a solid RB in Murray, the Cowboys have no offensive weaknesses. We’re going to win the Super BOwl and nothing’s going to stand in our way. That’s how our debate went. I am the Dallas Cowboys and you are the Eagles. I am Jerry (The Man) Jones and you are the Xbox One. I am the Playstation 4 and you are Uncharted. See? This debate was over before it even began. Think of it from an ice cream’s point of view or even from Goku’s.

       Remember how Goku fought Frieza back on Namek? It wasn’t easy and it wasn’t fun, but it was cool. I hope all of this sunk in. Just remember that My Little Pony is an amazing show and Bass is a great fighter. His abilities are unlimited and I am the greatest and most modest debater ever. My brilliance is exceeded only by my debating skills and pure muscle power. Trust me…I am a very epic person. Nintendo FTW!

     • What you say only makes you even more of a fool. Because you didn’t even actually contest the statement of you being a fool with any hard evidence. Bass is a weakling who has nothing to fo with politics.

       Clearly the video went THROUGH your head like a bullet killing all of your brain cells. MLP sucks. Take a look at all the video interviews of bronies. They only interviewed a bunch of older people. A lot of em are obese fat men. And regardless, a rubber band cannot be taffy. Jawbreakers still surpass rubber bands because people want more of em. No one wants an endless supply of rubber bands. Just look at all the kids in Ed, Edd, n Eddy. They always want Jawbreakers. Not rubber bands.

       Just realize ma’am that I have won. Just realize that your so called brilliance is nothing more than a skewered pile of vomit. Your debate skills are dead before the might of my awesome godhood of debate. My skills and perfect scans will always beat your fake statements and falsified facts. I always win against you. Because you are Judas. I am the lord of the debate.

       You have no edge just by liking Bass or ponies. You are an edgeless fool. Being Dreager1 means nothing. Being the god of debate means everything. And that is what I am.

       George W Bush is a failure ma’am. I learned that the uncyclopedia way and the wikipedia way. And I compared the two. You didn’t. You fail.

       You know whhy you won’t win? You just won’t. Because Bass is not invincible. Bass is the weakling who tries to give me grief for being the god of debate. Of course, I don’t swing that way so I slap him around a bit to keep him off. He tells me all the time how he’d rather have Andy Dickens support him than you. You suck at proving any of the so called feats. He’s the laughing stock of the fictional world because of you. You were #scorched the moment I entered the debate like a thousand suns scorching the skin of an insectoid mongrel. He has practically zero speed, and his Get Ability is only good for taking the power of dying individuals like the weakling he really is. His Darkness Overload is nothing more than a twat with the power to only destroy Chris Griffins pimples. But only after trying a million overloaded times. It’s uncanny how weak he is. And it’s uncanny how wrong and idiotic you are at debate. Being the customer is being god. The customer is always right. You have once again failed at coming up with a decent analogy to support yourself. All you did was state the obvious truth that my debate skills are of godhood and you are the lowly court jester who serves to entertain like a fool who amounts to nothing but licking my boots. The fact you edit them out proves I’m winning. Because it proves to others that you HAVE to edit out things to keep this debate going without losing in the eyes of others. I can easily post on my blog and prove that I am winning. I can easily take all of my saved comments and prove it. You’re actions are not but a fleeting flag of failure. Being Murakami Kai is ultimate. It is superior. It is the ultimate path of godhood.

       I am Murakami Kai, the god of debate. And you are Dreager1, my court jester of the earthly kingdom of failure. I am Rick Flair (The real man, and the nature boy) and you are nothing more than the fat towel boy who every now and then either gets lucky shots or gets murdered in the ring.

       Your skills are nothing but micriscopic mud and dirt before my perfect godhood of debate. That is what it means to be… Murakami Kai. Goku is superior. Bass is inferior. So says the lord of the debate. Epic fails before godly might. MLP sucks. Bass is a weakling. And even as I say this, he still wants to be cheap

     • Let’s get the facts straight my friend. I don’t change what you are saying, I simply edit out obscene words that aren’t PG. If editing out swear words is enough for me to take the lead in this debate…then I must have already been winning. Also, your memory must be going since you said ma’am instead of sir. Just needed to remind you of that.

       I am a genius, but I am a humble one, which is why you may think that I’m a cool. It’s like comparing a bowl of mashed potatoes to a pumpking pie.

       I think you are underestimating the bronies. They are a talented bunch and they know how to win. I don’t know what else to say about their epicness and overall power. If that video can’t convince you…then only an episode can. I strongly recommend checking it out.

       Your scans tremble before my power. As for the Jawbreakers. Think of it like Grandma’s cookies. Extremely epic and delicious as well as cool. That’s where the rubber bands come in. See…? You just got #Burned with that one. Gotta watch out for those tricks.

       George W Bush is epic sir. Just like I thought. A quick google search showed me the light. I am DReager1, the master debater. The Master of Faster. You wanna know why? I’m never gonna let me down and I’m always going to rise up above the world. This is why they call me Eager as opposed to DReager1. I’m always set to win. DallasCowboysFTW!

       Back to the debate. Bass is the greatest character ever as well as the coolest. Your comments may be big, but mine are packed with power. You can look at your comments and take them to the blog, but you’ll see that I haven’t really changed anything except to censor them. That’s what a true debater does btw. MLP is awesome and you know it…..

       I remember one time where I went to a big Super Smash tournament. The guys were all yelling about how epic they were, but they quickly grew quiet as I stomped through the match. Nobody could stop me and that’s just how I like it. I won the first round as Fox and I’ll never forget that moment. It’s like playing the cards while eating a bowl of ice cream.

       Ever watch DBZ? Remember when Goku fought Android 19? I am Android 19 and you are Goku. You keep on dishing out the insults and fake scans while I just laugh at them and respond with solid counter arguments to your claims. This is why I can’t lose. I am DReager1, the master debater. The Master of Faster. You wanna know why? I’m never gonna let me down and I’m always going to rise up above the world. This is why they call me Eager as opposed to DReager1. I’m always set to win. DallasCowboysFTW!

       I couldn’t resist the copy and paste. Let’s get one thing straight though. Derpy is pretty hardcore and so is Pinkie Pie. You haven’t proven yourself to the world if you haven’t watched My Little Pony. Bass is the best and one darkness overload could defeat Goku. Perhaps…if you were a better debater, you could have made this interesting…maybe. Either way, Bass stomps right through his opponents like the Boss that he is. Better luck next time…

     • Nope. I know a man when I see one. You Ma’am, are no sir.

       You are neither humble nor a genius. And don’t forget what people put gravy on. I am superior. Because EVERYONE loves gravy.

       I saw the first episode. And the second. And it still sucked. Bronies are not epic for their love of ponies. If a brony ever seems epic, it’s for other reasons. Like he knows how to shoot a soda can from 4o feet away dead center with a desert eagle. And that has nothing to do with ponies or MLP. It has to do with his experience with guns.

       See, it’s like this. You’re an idiot. Because you think rubber bands are supposed to be eaten with grandma’s cookies. You shame grandma by putting disgusting unwanted rubber bands in cookies. Cookies and jawbreakers have more in common because you EAT them. My scans tear your power apart like a toddler tearing apart legos with his violent hands.

       George W Bush sucks. The true source on the internet told me so. You sir are a failure no matter how you try to rise up.

       There’s a difference between power, and ego. Mine is power. Yours are ego. My comments are BIG AN POWERFUL. Yours are foolish and weak. A true debater leaves everything untouched. That is the purpose of a debater. To show the SOURCE MATERIAL in an untouched form. MLP sucks and you know it. No matter what.

       I remember at a college they had a Dark Souls tournament. Everyone was an expert there who got good times on completion. But I beat them all. It’s like playing cards without having cards and still winning. Because that’s how I am. The one who is king. The one who is god of debate. The ultimate ruler and mastermind of the omniverse of debate. Murakami Kai. That’s what my name means.

       Mura “The illusory fantasy that no mortal could reach in the mortal plane”

       Kami “The god”

       Kai “Released”

       I am the god of peoples fantasies unleashed into the real world. None can challenge me since I am in reality. No… I AM REALITY. AN FANTASY. I am all. And you are nothing but an insect in debate.

       You keep on being a fool that goes beyond dillusion when you can’t even tell the difference between a real scan and a fake scan. I bet you won’t find my scans on Deviantart without someone saying that it doesn’t belong to them, because the author of Dragon Ball made them.

       Let’s get one thing straight. I’m the one. The only one. You are nothing. And you are alone in being nothing. Because everyone else is something. But you are nothing. Not until you learn the true power of debate. Darkness Overload is nothing. Kamehameha is something. It is superior and Bass is a failure. If you ever were a real debater then this would have ended long ago. Your failures are the only amusement that people need on here. Either way, Bass fails and falls right before his opponents knees like the slave he is.

       Better luck in failing harder next time. Cause that’s all you’ll ever amount to.

     • I am definitely a man though so it seems like you just got burned sir. Of course, you can’t really trust anyone over the internet so it’s not like you have to believe me. Really, it shouldn’t even matter all that much. So, I’ll get back on the off topic.

       Not everyone. I prefer my Mash with Gravy, but I also like it without gravy. I’m very versatile like that…it’s just who I am. Grandma’s Cookies are amazing and I didn’t mean that they would be eaten with rubber bands. Just that they are as durable. Jawbreakers don’t go well with cookies. Water does and rubber bands are a little similar.

       Exactly my point. There are some epic bronies out there and they are ready to crush the opposition. Don’t underestimate such a large group of people based on the stereotype. If two episodes didn’t work, try watching the rest of the series and then Equestria Girls. You’ll become a fan somewhere along that line.

       Dark Souls eh? I never played that game since it’s a little too hardcore for me. Well, I played Mario Power Tennis a lot and I’ve never lost a 1 on 1 battle. Now that’s what I would call impressive. I shall not be defeated in that game. My name doesn’t have any special message to it..it’s just epic on its own I’m afraid.

       I think you are underestimating Bass here. Bass’ darkness overload is better than the Kamehameha? Why? Because I said so and I’m a Bass fan. Trust me, I know my stuff. It’s why I’m here. It’s why I’m epic. It’s why….I have the power. My scans proved that Bass is FTL and that his Get Ability has no limits. You could not debunk these facts and that’s the tricky part. Trust me, I’m a true debater, which is why I don’t give up. Can you say the same?

     • If you prefer it then it proves my point. I just burned you without trying. Water does not go well as a treat with cookies. And rubber bands only make you sick if you try to ear it. Thus that fails on your part.

       As I said, it has nothing to do with ponies or MLP. It has to do with experience. And not every brony is the same. Not every Brony is an ex-commando with an M72 Law sitting in their living room ready to blow up some gangstas. If two episodes just made me hate it even more, then trying more ain’t gonna work. It’s like walking into a fire that burns at 1,000 degrees and then trying to walk deeper where it burns at 10,000 degrees. It ain’t gonna work. Cause it sucks.

       My name is epic AND has a meaning to it. Meaningful names are better. Because mine is epic and meaningful. And truthful.

       I think you’re overestimating the false power of Bass. Darkness Overload sucks and fails. Why? Because I said so. And I’m god of debate. I have the power. I have the authority. I am the lord of the debate.I know my stuff. Because all stuff is my stuff. I know everything. You know nothing. And I say Bass loses. My scans proved my argument. Your scans proved nothing. Get Ability is useless. I debunked it all. I’m a king debater and a god debater. You are nothing before my infinite power and visage of true passion and evolution into godhood. So try me. You will fail because you have already lost.

     • No, I #Burned myself there so it doesn’t count. I never fail..only succeed. I’m just saying that most Bronies are actually really cool people and you just need to get to know them. The analogy is hardcore, but it still works. You get used to it after a while.

       I disagree, my name has no meaning or relevance to it. It’s just there for the lolz and the lulz. It still works out pretty well though. I like the name…it’s catchy!

       You underestimate Bass. I showed you the scans of his FTL and planet busting abilities. The planet busting is only implied of course…just sayin. I have le power of debating. Trust me, Bass wins. I debunked your debunks and I did it with ease. Did you know that they have Bass T shirts? It’s because he’s extremely hardcore and cool. Trust me…I won this debate

     • The bronies I know minus one who isn’t even considering himself a full fledged brony even though he watches it, are creeps.

       Trust my word of epicness. I won this debate with my scans. The planet busting is not implied with Goku. He beat Frieza who ACTUALLY destroyed a planet, and by the Cell games he was light years ahead. Bass never once defeated anyone shown destroying a planet. I debunked your lies of debunking my debunks way before you even tried the debunking of my debunks. I am the mastermind of all debate. Did you know they have WAY more Goku and Dragon Ball Z T-Shirts? Because that stuff sells more than your Bass Exe ever did.

     • Well, personal experiences definitely vary per person. Trust me, there will be bad apples in every crowd.

       How is that any better. Goku beat someone who was a planet buster. Bass was stated to have the power of a super nuke. Both of them got much stronger since then and through power scaling we can come to the same conclusions. None of them were shown to bust a planet, but we know it nontheless. At least my Bass is FTL scan was direct and an actual showing of his speed. Likewise with the Get Ability…so I really won this debate in all meanings of the word. None of my scans could be debunked.

       Quantity<<<<Quality. Just ask your average McDonalds customer and then ask them about their steakburger at Buffalo Wild Wings….Bass is the greatest…

2. True fans of bass.exe and even those who are bias towards him believe that this is stupid.

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   • Which part? Also, I’m only in the first category 😉

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3. I think this debate has gone long enough. Time to end it once and for all.
   Let me start with DReager1. What murakamikai has been saying about you being a terrible debater is true. Sorry to say it but it’s true. You see, a true debate requires you to bring up evidence to support whatever you claim. Yes, you have brought out scans of power and speed for bass, but they only prove so much. You claim that bass is the most powerful character in all of fiction, that not even omnipotent beings can stand up to his power, but have yet to show anything that proves that. What you’ve shown is enough to say that bass is a top tier Naruto character. You go by the rules of the blog, which you made, and that is a big no no. Debates can’t have custom rules in it. And you also seem to go by the blog rules even when you’re debating on other sites. I’ve seen that Bass.exe vs Gemini Saga thread you made on mvc, and all you said was that bass would win because he’s more powerful, but didn’t show any evidence. You keep breaking the most important rule in debates and that is to always have evidence to prove your claims. And I’m also not really sure how deciding what food to eat would be any help at all in a debate. That’s just decision making.
   Now let me move onto murakamikai. You kind of are underestimating Bass here. Sure, he’s never shown anything that can compare to Goku, but he has something Goku doesn’t and that is haxxed abilities. For example, Goku vs Whitebeard. Whitebeard had the haxxed ability to quake anything. Of coarse, Whitebeard has never shown anything that would compare to goku and goku can easily go ssj 3 and shoot a kamehameha from space and obliterate the world along with Whitebeard and the rest of One Piece. But there is still that small chance of Whitebeard winning. Not even ssj god would survive getting quaked as all of his atoms would either be completely destroyed or move so rapidly goku is literally liquefied. Now whether Whitebeard will ever get the chance to quake goku is a different story, but my point still stands. Honestly, I would say that with more feats of strength and a better view on how Bass’s abilities work, Bass would be capable of destroying a planet. Keep in mind that if everything I said actually happened that destroying a planet would be the most amount of power Bass can output. But besides all that, you are correct, bass does have the feats and thus goku wins.
   Now about this MLP argument going on. I haven’t the slightest idea as to how it started but I intend to end it. DReager I agree with you. Although I’m not a brony nor have I’ve seen a single episode of it. I have seen enough clips, commercials, the intro, and have read enough things about it to say that it’s a pretty good show. It’s sort of like Sailor Moon in the way that both shows were intended for girls but ended up with a large fan base of mostly boys. While the idea of 20 year old men watching a cartoon about ponies is very disturbing, the idea of 20 year old men watching a show about topless, extremely buff men fighting each other is even more disturbing when you think about it. What’s going on with MLP also happened to Sailor moon. People who watched other anime like DBZ (mainly guys) would say that Sailor Moon is gay because it’s girls in costumes fighting evil in a very girly way. But when you think about it, how can a man who watches girls in tight, revealing clothes be considered gay but a man who watches extremely buff, topless guys not. Sure it may be perverted for a guy to watch girls in tight l, revealing clothes but it’s the complete opposite of gay. The point here is that while MLP may seem very girly, childish, and stupid to you, murakamikai, it still has an extremely large fan base and it’s hypocrisy for you to judge it because of that.
   Other things that need to end are the George W Bush and Rubber bands thing. George Bush and George W Bush are recognized as one of the most idiotic people in history. George Bush declared war on Iraq which ended up costing the economy needed money. And George W Bush did nothing to help the economy and only made it worse. And Bacon über stomps both rubber bands and jawbreakers.
   Now for the actual debate and reason why all of this started. Anti Man vs Bass. I’ve never seen the Megaman anime or read the manga I’ve only gone by what DReager has shown. And I’ve also never heard of Anti Man so I cannot make an answer for it.
   NOTE: I do not intend to offend anyone and only what to say what I believe.

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   • Lol, I believe that you are not a truly terrible debater unless you believe that you are. Self confidence is enough to at least make you a decent one. I still believe that I am a master at showing my points and counter points. As for Bass being a top tier Naruto character…does Naruto have anyone who is even FTL? Obviously, I consider most of them to be FTL, but I’m sure that many would disagree. Bass is confirmed to be FTL from the scans that I showed and that was pre Hubstyle and Beast Out. Even the Lounge agrees that he is beyond Frieza level. So, most people would say that Bass is Android Saga level, but my personal stance on him is higher.

     It’s true that I typically do keep my rules in mind when commenting on any site aside from the composite part. My rules just make too much sense to leave at the door….

     For the big Goku vs Bass debate. Three key points to remember: Bass likely has a drastic speed advantage. Many people definitely disagree on Goku’s speed level so it depends. If you believe that he was FTL ever since Super Saiyan 1…then it’s really debatable if Bass is faster. If you are one of the fans who believe that he only recently achieved FTL in SSG form, then Bass is definitely faster and this gives him a big edge. Second, Bass’ Reflectance. No Kamehamehas this time since Bass can reflect such a blast. No matter how strong it is, Bass can easily reflect it because it’s like Judo. The ability really rolls with the beam and merely turns it. Finally…The Get Ability…nuff said.

     Yes, MLP is merely misunderstood. Ironically, people are more accepting of Sailor Moon nowadays and I believe that this will happen to MLP too in 10-20 years. We just have to give people time to adjust I suppose. I actually do like Sailor Moon since there are still fight scenes to be had. (Plus, people claim that she’s Goku level so I have to be ready to debunk it) It doesn’t necessarily have to be perverted. Of course, I know that you were just using it for the example since there are epic reasons to watch it as well.

     We needed to go to war with Iraq! They started it and we were really just going in to help the people who had to live with it. We didn’t have to go in of course, but it was the right thing to do. Nothing beats a good slice of Turkey Bacon though!

     I definitely go with Bass over Anti Man if it’s any consolation….

     No offense taken. That was a well written post 🙂

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4. You just did something wrong right there. How was anyone suppose to know that bass was faster than frieza. If this were a real debate you would have lost for not saying that. One crucial part in debating is the way you present your information. Let’s say anti man was also FTL (no idea if he is). And that he was also given an official top speed of 17,000,000,000 mph (light is 670,616,629 mph). The scan you gave for bass’s speed only stated that he was faster than light. How much faster than light is he? 2x? 20x? 200x!? Even Bass was 200x faster than light you would have lost the debate because your scan only stated that he was FTL while the the scan for anti man was 17 billion mph. You can’t just assume everyone knows this. You have to show evidence that proves it.

   The U.S ended up destroying Iraq’s government because of the war, and we have yet to pay them back. During the war, we used up most of their needed resources along with the money the U.S economy needed at the time. And now we can’t do anything because we wasted all of our money in the war and have yet to repay the other countries which lended us money. We owe more than we have and we were already like this before the war and the war only made things worse.

   And Turkey bacon? Nothing shall replace the awesomeness of a strip of brown, crispy, smoked pork bacon!

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   • Well, it really depends on how fast you think Frieza is. I personally would say that he’s massively FTL, but many claim that he is only hypersonic. So, since Bass is faster than light, then he is automatically leagues ahead of Frieza in speed and that’s why many went for him over the DBZ villain. If you think that Frieza is FTL though, then it gets tricky. I wouldn’t say that I made a mistake though since it’s all in interpretation. Just by saying Bass is FTL, we can infer that he’s faster than Frieza.

     That’s the main problem with the manga. After the first FTL statement, we never get any indication of his speed. Thus, power scaling is incredibly difficult and it’s why I believe that Bass’ speed is simply off the charts. It’s just uncomparable to anything that we’ve ever seen from a character.

     Right, but the U.S. did it to protect the citizens and we did a decent job. It’s too bad that we lost a lot of money, but it was worth it in the long run. I do love all kinds of bacon, but turkey bacon has such a nice taste to it. It’s like an explosion of incredible flavors all merged together. Trust me, you don’t want to pass up on that kind of intensity!

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5. There is no official top speed for frieza so you can’t say bass is faster just yet.

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   • Well, it definitely depends on how fast you think Frieza is. None of these fighters will ever have an official top speed so we really just have to interpret the fights.

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6. The war of Iraq did not help anyone in the long run. It cost us money and cost them valuable resources. We’re still in a money crisis right now. It’s either use the little money we have left on U.S defended and leave the already bad economy in ruins, or use it on the economy and leave the country open to attacks. All of this could have been avoided if we had never gone to Iraq, or at least have a president and congress that actually does their job.

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   • I dunno, I still remember there being a lot of pros to going. It was the ethical thing to do since the people there weren’t really in a good position at the time. Economically, it wasn’t sound, but it’s still worth it that we went.

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     • You know, Murakamikai has a point. You never really provide proper evidence and some of your logic is perhaps a little off.

       I can’t really comment on the Bass vs AntiMan argument (as I don’t really know either character that well) or the Bush arguement (being British), and rubber bands and jawbreakers are completely incomparable items, but Murakamikai’s reasoning seemed better and more convincing. He had some seriously good points to bring up. The only argument he kind of failed at was the MLP one. Despite having not watched the series, your attempts to defend it were far more convincing than his repitition of how it sucked. Your “Bass is the strongest” argument could kind of be applied to a fairly sizeable handful of people from various series and even his grasp of Bass’ personality seemed more believable than that of his #1 fan.

       No offence, just thought you could stand to take in a few of the guy’s pointers.

     • Well, I like to think that I learn and adapt after each debate so I shall make sure not to simply overlook his side of the debate. He did put up a valiant effort and I still do stick to my theories that Bush was a good president and the Rubber Bands part. #MLPIsAwesome

       That being said, I still do show Bass’ feats off in the scans, I even bookmarked a few of them at this point so I don’t have to go looking for them each time. As Bass’ number one fan, I do like to think that I know him best though. He’s the mighty Bass, The Crimson Darkness, The Overlord of Power, etc. His power levels have power levels at this point. It’s been a while since he fought on the blog though…..

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