This is a tribute to Naruto Shippuden The Will of Fire! Superman is tough, I’ll give him that, but there’s no way he could stand up against Naruto! A good Rasengan should end this fight as quickly as it began! Superman’s a powerful fighter, but it won’t be enough to take down Naruto. Naruto wins.
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I call your bull. Superman isn’t limitless, but Naruto’s a fly compared to any Superman besides Golden Age. Even Animated Superman shits on Naruto.
Ah, it’s been a while since I’ve seen you around here. Naruto’s too much for Superman to handle. Animated Superman lost in one hit to a Tripod. I don’t think he can handle a full powered punch from Naruto!
Naruto is weak as hell. Animated Superman is large-planet level and solidly faster than light. Naruto is moon level and only a few thousand times supersonic.
And using that against Superman is like saying Naruto can be killed by a bullet.
I’m guessing that you haven’t seen Naruto The Last or the Boruto film have you? Naruto’s incredibly powerful and I’d say that he’s FTL and certainly a planet buster. Naruto can be killed by a bullet in his base form though so I’ll give you that.
Superman is stronger, tougher,faster and just better in general. There’s nothing that Naruto can do.
I dunno, I still say combat-wise Naruto always seems a lot faster and his stronger forms starting with Sage Mode should deal heavy damage to Superman.
Naruto isn’t even 1 percent of the speed of light. Mach 17000 is really fast, but conbat wise Superman is 260 times faster than light.
Naruto’s strongest form is moon l3vel while Superman is large star level. Naruto is never going tobhurt him.
I’d say that Naruto is definitely FTL by the later parts of Shippuden like Sage Mode. At the very least, certainly by The Last and Boruto.
What can those even do to some one who survived 15 supernovas to the face?
The energy part of the Rasengan will definitely help him quite a bit. Superman does have a lot of high end feats which help, but also a ton of low ones that hurt him due to the fact that these feats even occur against his stronger forms.
Naruto isn’t FTL. You underestimate the speed of light.
Also, those low end feats only occurred in another characters comics, similar to how Batman can hurt Specter with a kick in his comics.
Also, Naruto himself has low showings, so don’t give me that.
You still haven’t proven how the Rasengan can even hurt Superman, which it can’t BTW. Superman wouldn’t even notice it given he’s taken hits from people like Superboy Prime, who’s power makes Goku and Naruto look like babies.
Trust me, Superman has low end feats in his comics as well. There are tons of iffy moments. Naruto has low showings as well, but they are certainly less consistent and on the whole his power level stays the same. Naruto’s Rasengan is powerful enough to injure Superman. It’s hard to really go more detailed than that. It’s meant to injure opponents directly, even Superman couldn’t handle that since he gets injured by a guy with a battery suit.
Except that whatever isn’t kryptonite.
True, but just look at how Superman is thrown around by just about every good energy blast. A Rasengan should work just as well.
No. I think he’d survive it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_mL0dn7sgc
Naruto does not stand a chance.
At all
Eh, I have to disagree there. His combat speed is insane!
Composite Superman destroyed a solar system with a sneeze
That was impressive, but Naruto’s combat speed is incredible so he can speedblitz Superman and a few good energy attacks will take this.
But superman has Microsecond Combat speed and Nanosecond+ Reaction speed
It shows up once in a while though while Naruto always holds his own. I don’t see him being able to react to Naruto’s blows.
But Superman has always been a fast character.
True, but he does have a habit of being rather slow when it comes to a fight. Not human level or anything like that, but certainly far below someone like Naruto. Naruto’s maneuverability is in a different league and I’m confident that his ninjutsu would be able to deal massive damage to Superman.
Why are you using cartoons?
They’re good for counters. Also, cartoons typically make the characters look a lot more impressive than in the comics.
Cartoon characters are way weaker than comic chars.
You should Join Comicvine. I want to see what happens
I think I have an account there, but don’t really use it. It would be fun to convince them that Naruto can beat Superman.
What’s the account?
There are other battles you could do.
I’m just called DReager1 over there.
You should get more active.
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That is true, I haven’t even been there in years. I should definitely get on that.
superman prime??? come on dude superman would win easily
Not against someone like Naruto. Naruto is one of the most powerful beings we’ve ever seen
that’s like saying naruto can overpower goku
Nah Goku’s way too powerful
i just finished naruto so i change my mind i think naruto would win
Nice, yeah Naruto is definitely really strong
Naruto definitely wins this one. Too fast, and has too many hax abilities for Superman to even know what’s happening.
Superman will be taking that Rasengan directly and just won’t be the same afterwards
For anyone who honestly thinks naruto would beat superman are so dumb that i cant even believe that people like that exist. Superman can fight characters like darkseid who is a universal threat while naruto has to seal away kaguya who can destroy a large star if we are being generous. Not to mention superman can keep up with the flash and The flash can perceive time down to the attosecond, otherwise known as, one quintillionth of a second while naruto is light speed. And if you think naruto could stall out the fight till superman gets weak your wrong. superman’s durability is beyond what any naruto character has faced. superman can survive 50 supernova’s to the face while naruto could survive a beam that cut the moon in half. for strength, we dont even have to use superman’s strongest feat as superman in the comics has destroyed a solar system by sneezing while naruto at best can destroy a continent with one of his strongest attacks. The only way naruto could ever win agiants superman is if he packed some kryptonite with him but even then it would still be a hard fight for naruto to win as superman has faced multiple people who used kryptonite agiants him and has managed to win. Now of course there are many versions of superman and some versions naruto could beat. But most other versions of superman would destroy naruto no sweat. Idk how this is a debate in this website as its full of trolls and the owner is a naruto fan boy. By far the most disappointing display of research i have ever seen
You have to underestand that Superman’s feats are great in a vacuum but when it comes to actual combat he isn’t able to perform at that level. He has amazing travel speed and such but in combat Naruto is faster and stronger
Faster and stronger? Did you even read what i said, superman can legit destroy solar systems with a sneeze while naruto has to use a shit ton of power to even destroy a continent. even if you count baryon mode in its not gonna help him. baryon mode does not last long and all superman would have to do is stall out the fight and keep a distance until baryon mode’s juice ran out. and superman is fast both in combat and flight speed. he can react down to the attosecond, way more then any speed of light reaction feats naruto has. And you say naruto is stronger?
First off naruto at his best could at least destroy a continent, but with superman he can destroy worlds
and also in one of your other debates you said goku could beat naruto, goku agianst his clash with beerus was able to send a shockwave that spreaded out through the entire dragon ball universe, and i said that superman could take on darksied who has threatned an even bigger universe.
You clearly underestimate superman’s abilities, alot of people do who wont take a second and look just what he accomplished. Superman’s strength durability and sped are something naruto wont stand a chance agiants, but if you fr think naruto can still beat superman then you need actual evidence of naruto and his strongest feat
A) if you can prove naruto has been able to threatned a universe with his powers then i might consider, fail and you have proven my point that superman is stronger
Im honestly thinking your trolling and trying to get people triggered cause the naruto franchise has gone through your head and usual naruto fans cant accept that naruto would lose to some other character. Cause the naruto fan base is very toxic and would do anything to see naruto being on top
Ant this is coming from another naruto fan,
if your too dumb to see that the power gap between superman and naruto is far too wide, you honestly should not be making these debates cause its obvious you dont know what your doing
From what i have seen from your debates you provide
0 evidence
0 actual good reasons
and even when you bring out evidence, the evidence is shit and you dont even go deeper.
your lazy and you just say that a rasengan would be strong enough to take superman down.
Its obvious you want attention on the internet and wanna get other people triggered. I CLEARLY said that there were some versions of superman naruto could possibly beat but most versions of superman would destroy naruto easy. and in your vid you posted about superman vs joker, superman ends up tanking hits from kryptonite attacks from joker, and you casually say that a rasengan would put him down, hell its cartoon superman who is much more weaker then the superman you displayed.
My suggestions is you actually research supermans strength speed and durability feats, after that look up naruto’s feats in strength speed and durability as well.
You will see that the power gap between the two of them is so huge that it should not have taken a whole paragraph to explain to you
PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT NARUTO HAS DONE SOMETHING JUST AS INSANE AS SUPERMAN HAS FIRST
Look I get what you’re saying but I’m a debating master and know what I’m talking about here.
Don’t get me wrong, I like Superman but like I said you’re focusing too much on travel feats. Superman can’t actually pull this off in battle. It’s why he is always getting beaten up pretty badly by every villain under the sun. Superman just can’t react to their blows in time and that’s why he is always getting thrown around the place. He just isn’t ready for these kind of fights and it shows.
You wanted Naruto feats? Fine, check this one out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnm-KT1UAyE
Superman would not be able to do anything against Naruto here. Naruto would be able to seamlessly dodge all of Superman’s attacks thanks to his FTL speeds and then counter attack. Superman won’t be doing much of anything when he’s taking a Rasengan to the face either.
Naruto has better combat feats and ultimately those will always be better than travel ones. Because you know immediately that they work in practice
You say your a debating master but your far from it and need to look into it more further, for one your dissing superman on the fact that he cant react to naruto’s attacks cause in the past he has not been able to react to others attacks, but you need to understand that the dc universe is far more stronger then the naruto universe and superman has fought people way above naruto’s level. for starters with your pictures, the guy mongul who is stepping on superman was able to beta him cause he matched supermans strength, and has survived agiants doomsday itself and defeated a new god. as for your second picture, batman has already beaten superman several times in his past, but thats mostly cause he had prep time and even then there are times he does not win. in a one on one fight where batman has his standard gear superman would destroy batman. and as for your last pciture, you need to do the research there too cause just cause you found an image of he man and she ra beating wonder woman and superman does not mean its true. both superman and wonder woman far surpass she ra and he man. lemme put it in all caps for you to see. SUPERMAN IS FIGHTING PEOPLE WHO ARE ON A LEGIT SCALE AS HIM AND EVEN SOME WHO ARE USING HIS WEAKNESSES AGIANST HIM.
He has been able to pull off some of his feats in battle before.
and about your naruto vs sasuke video.
I have seen the entire battle before. infact i have seen the entire naruto series from the original naruto all the way to boruto.
The best naruto has done was destroy that entire lake and even then he had the help of sasuke’s indra arrow to destroy it too.
Besides naruto is not any better, when he has been knocked out by one punch, getting bodied by ishhiki,Getting the ninetails extracted from his body and dying INSTANTLY while his fucking mother lasted longer. struggling agiants stab wounds
Hell if we are gonna low ball him so bad and say he does not have kurama any more since of course kurama died then yeah superman kicks his ass even more
but thats too cruel and unfair
That taijutsu fight between naruto and sasuke is impressive howver even if he is more of a expirenced fighter, naruto cant really physically hurt superman all that well. Man had to go to kurama chakra mode to stop a train.
Long story short your saying naruto would win cause your claiming superman has never actually show his strength feats in combat while naruto has been able to show his off during combat
BUT your video just showed proof on something
After the explosion that destroyed the lake both naruto and sasuke were so weak they could barely do shit. an explosion like that? while superman takes supernova’s to the face and is fine? your effort of putting that video for naruto feats has backfired and showed that naruto could tank an attack like that but be extremely weak as hell, meaning superman could easily blitz him without a doubt. superman has survived attacks way stronger then that before and was fine while naruto tanks a hit from that and barely has any chakra left. plus superman could easily regian strength from the sun anyway or hell take the fight to the sun and gain such a advantage so far that its almost insane.
overall you cant say just cause superman has never shown his full power during battle does not mean naruto can beat him
theres already proof that naruto has tanked attacks and barely lived while superman has tanked far more and got up just fine
However if you still dont get it and you still think naruto would beat superman
then honestly im starting to care less about your dumb stupid arguments anyway
your quote “im a debating master’ is by far the dumbest shit you have ever said on your website, and since its your website no shit your trying to get attention
“Look I get what you’re saying but I’m a debating master and know what I’m talking about here.”
You’re a debating master? You can’t even provide basic evidence when asked. You frequently make stuff up and make assertions without said evidence and then ask people to simply trust you. And when you do provide “evidence” you either A) wank it to obscene levels or B) use a completely different character. This guy just addressed literally all your pics are out of context and simply not showing what you want them to show. And you once again gave ammo to the person you’re debating. You gave them an argument to use against you.
A debating master does not:
*Fail to provide basic evidence, especially when asked for it.
*Open Trojan Horses on themselves, allowing their opponent to jump on what you show for pics and videos.
* Use phrases “trust me” or something like” Nah *insert character here* wins on all counts” with no further evidence like on the Boa Hancock vs Yamato battle
*Repeat refuted and debunked points that serve no purpose to the discussion.
You do all of these things constantly, Dreager you are no “debating master”. You’re a stubborn debater that cannot accept that their initial verdicts are not always correct.
Dude I am a debating master though. Also, you’re acting like I’ve never overturned a match before but I’ve overturned plenty. Usually it’s because the character got a new super form though and not because I’ve missed anything. I just don’t tend to miss anything and I’ve been crushing this debate. I ask you to trust me sometimes because I already know where we’re going to end up here and am just trying to save you some time. Sometimes trust is really all that we have left…am I right?
I always have the evidence though and put it to good use
Naruto would crush Superman though. You have to put this into perspective, Superman’s gotten clowned by villains like Poison Ivy before. He’s not ready to take on Naruto’s more powerful attacks like the tailed beast bomb. That would completely obliterate Superman. Remember that he lost to a single energy blast from the tripod monster in Justice League episode 1.
Isshiki isn’t a good example though because that guy would absolutely crush Superman so we should aim a little smaller first and then build our way up. Otherwise then it’ll really be over for the Man of Steel. Still, I get that Superman has a lot of good feats but he also has a ton of bad ones. That’s why as a debating master I have to take them all into account
How many times have i got to tell you that times when superman is losing is either when the enemy has specific tools to specifically take down superman or its a different version of superman, the justice league series has a much more weaker superman. I SPECIFICALLY SAID THAT THERE ARE SOME VERSION OF SUPERMAN THAT NARUTO CAN BEAT. but most versions of superman would destroy him. i brang up isshiki cause isshiki used rods to specifically be able to drain chakra from people who are stabbed with them. to naruto that is his weakness. since these rods are specifically used agiants chakra users at best they would not be able to drain supermans powers, at best maybe a normal stab wound or hell break when they grow. hell one punch form superman is enough to send isshiki flying. You dont seem to understand cause
A) your constantly using different versions of superman to back up your claim that superman would be beaten
B) your taking pictures out of context and hell using pictures that are not even canon
C) you keep saying that naruto in combat perspective can beat superman but you keep underestimating superman’s feats. EVEN YOU SPECIFICALLY SAID THAT SUPERMAN WAS STRONGER THEN GODZILLA AND YOU SAID ALL THE POINTS THAT I HAVE SAID ABOUT SUPERMAN WINNING.
Wanna know why superman does not react to fast attacks?
Allow me to quote this line from one of the dc redditors
:Its because if he moved at the Speed of Light on a planet with atmosphere, a gigantic fireball would appear, destroying continents as Superman moves past them.”
what he is saying is if he did use his actual speed and strength he would end up endangering the lives of many on earth with his attacks and speed. Superman is limited by the fact that he is a hero and that he has innocent people and a planet to protect. if he wanted to he could destroy naruto instantly. long story short it was a unfair fight from the start. Thats why in many different places he is not seen using his full abilities like in a city, cause he might end up killing millions of people. Him not being able to stop a train in time? theres people in that train and he does not want them to get hurt so he has to limit his powers to stop the train and keep the people on the train safe.
I get what you’re saying but even if he wasn’t holding back Superman would not be able to do anything against Naruto. Naruto is just a whole other type of creature at this point. He could make 100 shadow clones that would just punch the living daylights out of Superman. What’s the man of Steel going to do there? We agree that some versions could not beat Naruto but where we part ways is I think all of them would lose to Naruto. We’re at least close in that respect I suppose.
It all comes down to the fact that I have my doubts about Superman taking too many Rasengan blasts to the face. That stuff hurts after all and he does not want to be taking damage like that. Superman is fast but notice how we’ve never seen him move with the kind of speed we saw during the Naruto vs Sasuke battle
YOUR CLAIMS ARE THE DUMBEST Stuff I HAVE EVER SEEN, I COULD ASK ANYONE ON TWITTER WHO WOULD WIN AND I BET YOU MOST PEOPLE WOULD SAY SUPERMAN. ok nartuo can use shadow clones and punch superman, you honestly think superman is gonna lose by a a bunch of clones punching? you say whats the man of steel going to do there, what he is gonna do is fly through every danm clone and kill them all or use his heat vision and wipe them all out, we see how fragile these clones can be. rasengan is not gonna do shit since superman has tanked hits darksied and has taken supernova’s to the face. one energy ball is not gonna do shit to him. and your quote “notice how we’ve never seen him move with the kind of speed we saw during the Naruto vs Sasuke battle” here is an example
One time superman was near the star called vega. and thats 25 light years away from earth.
when one city was in trouble superman’s photography bud named jimmy activated a watch to call for superman. AND SUPERMAN ARRIVED IN A MATTER OF MINUTES. sure the comic does not specify how long it took for superman to reach earth. but since the comic never mentioned or said that there was a timelapse we cant say it took super long for him to get there, its like about a matter of minutes when the battle was ending. even if we lowball this to just 10 minutes that means superman traveled 800,000,000,000,000 mph. and plus jimmy’s watch operates by playing a high frequency sound that only superman can hear. THAT MEANS HE HEARD THAT THING 25 LIGHTYEARS AWAY. THAT IS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE. except for superman of course. and think about it
naruto worked so hard to become a powerful ninja
while superman was a powerful hero trying to live a normal life like other people with that kevin clark identity
naruto struggled to make it to the top
while superman already was there and even further up
spelled that wrong i meant clark kent
I get what you’re saying but at the same time you have to acknowledge that Naruto has the edge in combat here. The punching would absolutely take the life out of him because Naruto’s hits are immensely powerful. Superman’s fast but he’s not flying through anything because their combat speed is too good. They would be able to dodge everything.
Now, I did say that Superman has a lot of physical travel speed. I’d agree there but it doesn’t translate to combat speed. He’s just not fast enough to handle characters like Naruto and once he is in battle he would be overwhelmed. Naruto’s climb to the top is part of what made him strong like how Superman’s always been at the top so he didn’t have to train so much
While yes naruto is more experienced, Experience does not always triumph over raw power.
The only time superman has ever lost was when he was still learning. its surprising to find out that superman is still learning as a grownup
so saying that superman would lose to naruto cause he lost to darksied is the same as saying naruto lost to choji when they were kids.
even when superman was already at the top he still was pushing past his limits.
in terms of combat speed naruto just physically would not be able to pull of hits that could really put down superman.
Your being biased at this point cause now its gotten so low that your only assuming superman cant keep up with naruto cause superman was getting kicked around by some lower guys while naruto was in high speed hand to hand combat.
superman’s previous feats just prove he can easily deal with naruto.
Go ahead and search online of who would win, i guarantee more people will say superman
Surprisingly it does seem like most people are pulling for Superman here, but I’m not sure that I really buy that. Put it this way, Naruto has more experience, better techniques, and more power. So why do you say he would lose here? The way I see it, this won’t even be very close. We don’t have to stop at Darkseid either. Superman’s been humiliated countless times. It’s the problem of being such a popular character. Don’t get me wrong, I like Superman quite a lot but we can’t put these two characters in the same ballpark right now. A few good Rasengan hits would take Superman down.
He would lose cause his attacks are not strong enough to even damage superman. yes i know naruto is more expirenced and has more abilitys to throw at superman. superman has tanked 50 supernova’s to the face and you say some rasengan’s would be enough to beat him? he has only lost cause he was still learning or fought somebody who was prepared to fight him. Superman has beaten darksied all on his own in a one on one fight, while naruto who fought kaguya, with help. had to seal her away instead. Darksied is far more powerful then kaguya and if you say its wrong then the marvel fanbase and even the naruto fanbase would hate you for the rest of their lives for thinking that. Your only focusing on the bad parts on superman cause he was beaten by other people. but i tell you that he cant use his full power due to people he has to protect and using his true power or hell trying would end up injuring them. and you seem to only use the movies or cartoon’s as a base when there not canon.
Supernovas are good but they aren’t as focused as the Rasengan. Superman loses almost every week whether it is a comic or in a tv show. You can’t compare that to someone like Naruto who wins all of his battles while styling on people. Kaguya is stronger than Darkseid, that’s not even a debate. Superman is the strongest comic book character alive. Absolutely, I agree with you on that but anime characters are in a completely different league
Aint no danm way you said a rasengan was more stronger then a supernova. Anime characters are strong and there are some that can defeat superman, But naruto is someone who is going to die before he even knew what happend.
kaguya is not stronger then darkseid, at best kaguya is star level but thats me being generous. she is more likely planetary level. darksied is universal but once agian thats me lowballing him.
Clearly you dont know darksieds abilitys to im not gonna go into detail about how darskied can beat kaguya.
And no naruto does not win all his battles, and when he does the biggest battles were with help. Yes naruto is without a doubt one of the strongest shonen characters but superman is someone who would wipe the floor with naruto.
I hate having to explain this to you over and over. and i honestly dont know how you see naruto winning agiants someone who has clashed with gods.
Yeah a Rasengan has no discernible limits while a supernova does. Also Naruto would be using that with the intent to defeat Superman. It would be charged up like crazy and that means Superman would really be down for the count here. I like him as much as the next DC fan but he’s still outgunned. Trust me, Naruto is out of his league.
As for Darkseid, remember that he’s weaker than Naruto. While Kaguya is way weaker than Naruto, she’s still strong enough to beat Darkseid. She just has to rough him up a bit and that would be it. I be trying to tell you that Naruto wins this one clean. It’s not even going to be a close fight in the end. It’s just not that kind of fight
Rasengan has limits, if you watched naruto shippuden or hell original naruto then you would know that.
And no naruto is not stronger then kaguya, maybe in baryon mode but definetly not normally.
naruto had help to defeat kaguya and even then they had to seal her away, not kill her. Your proof of naruto and kaguya being stronger then darksied is so bad that i cant even imagine someone is actually dumb enough to think that.
The proof of you saying that naruto with a few rasengan’s are enough to beat him which is honestly dumb as hell when i keep telling you he has survived more stronger attacks then rasengan.
Be honest man.are you trolling? Like fr. Someone cannot be this dumb, i dont believe a human can be this dumb and stupid to not get it.
Its obvious its a troll and i really dont wanna deal with your bs
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You’re massively overestimating both Superman and Kaguya if you think they’re stronger than Naruto. Naruto surpassed Kaguya by the beginning of Boruto. As for Darkseid, he’s basically just a weaker version of Superman so what’s he going to do here? Nothing is the right answer. There’s just nothing that he can do against a massive threat like Naruto.
Look, Superman’s survived better attacks but he’s also been damaged and wrecked by weaker opponents. When you add it all up, Naruto absolutely dominates him in a fight. There’s no contest. Naruto’s combat speed and power are significantly far above Superman’s. It’s not a small gap, I’m talking a massive one which is why I say they’re in different levels. The key thing to remember is that Superman loses to humans while Naruto beats gods and aliens. That’s game over
Your comment was wrong on so many levels that so many naruto and marvel fans would be dissapointed. No naruto at the beginning of boruto is not stronger then kaguya, no darksied is not just some weaker version of superman. You act like rasengan’s have the same power output as the big bang. i dont even know how the hell am i supposed to explain it to someone this stupid.
i told you what you needed to hear so now its up to you to understand.
If you dont understand by then no one can help you and you will be stuck saying this complete lie for the rest of your life
Look, I’m trying to explain to you but it’s difficult. Naruto is considerably stronger than Kaguya and Superman is stronger than Darkseid. Those are both massive facts at this point. Think of it like a bowl of legos. One by one they’re tough but together they fold. The Rasengan can easily take Superman out because Naruto has beaten stronger opponents with it. At the end of the day that’s what counts. I can try explaining this in further detail but you should already have this on hand. Naruto will always win and I’m not even counting Baryon mode yet. With that this is an even bigger stomp
Yeah by this point its clear your not truly understanding what i have said for the past month.
Hell i would not be suprised if you said naruto could be jesus christ in a match or hell god himself.
lemme put this in the clearest form
superman beats naruto(even with baryon mode)
darksied beats naruto(even with baryon mode)
darksied beats kaguya
kaguya beats naruto(without baryon mode)
Dude, how do you go 0-4 on the battle predictions? Each and every one you listed was incorrect so just flip them all and you have it right. I think you’re just underestimating Naruto for some reason so I recommend reading the entire series back from chapter 1. Focus on his character growth and how he got stronger after every arc. Then you will see why he beats Superman with ease. If you want more proof, watch the CW Supergirl show and check out the Superman fights. There is no comparison
dude i watched the entire naruto series, including the fillers, and the movies and boruto and i still dont see naruto beating superman.
yes i saw the cw supergirl but thats a series and its not canon to the superman we are talking about you moron
You need to watch it again then, especially the fillers. Naruto completely outranks Superman. Sure, CW is a different continuity but it’s good research to show why Superman would get wrecked here. He just isn’t good at making comebacks or doing things like that. He tends to get lucky at best…and that’s saying something
You keep repeating the same thing over and over
Your underestimating superman too much, Yes we have never seen superman perform as greatly as naruto in hand to hand combat, but thats all your supporting your claims with.If superman is able to destroy a solar system with a sneeze, then you should see just how he would perform if he tried,
i told you already that superman does not use his full power on earth cause it may harm earth and the people who live their. thats just how powerful he is and theres no arguing with that.
From this point on im taking no repeated bullshit from you
Any false claim you make will be invalid to my point im trying to prove.
So its time for you to understand that Superman wins
Naruto fan boy 🙂
I’m not even a Naruto fanboy though, more like a fanman at this point. I’ve been following the journey forever but anyway let me get back to the topic at hand. Naruto is the GOAT!
Superman’s speed isn’t quite enough for Naruto. Remember that he’s gotten his can kicked by Batman in the past and Naruto is much more powerful than Batman. So when you think about it….Naruto beats Superman. I already explained that he’s too powerful
invalid response. Naruto yes is the goat, but in this battle the goat is being fed to the wolf.Superman can react down to the attosecond,way more then the speed of light. And superman really only gets beaten by batman cause batman is prepared to fight superman,Batman is known for being prepared to fight many opponents. Superman of course is one of them, we have seen it in the movies, the tv shows and in the comics. or well at least i have. That is why batman would be seen beating superman, cause he was prepared to fight superman and exploit his weaknesses. if batman had prep time agiants naruto he could possibly win. Overall superman’s reaction is far better and your batman claim has been certified false.
Try agian 🙂
The Batman fights still happened though. Superman got wrecked but fine lets go to a different avenue. Remember when Superman lost to the tripods in the first episode of Justice League? That is exactly how this fight would go down. He would get absolutely demolished and just wouldn’t be able to do much of anything against Naruto. One quick Rasengan and a million clones will do the job to completely overwhelm the Man of Steel
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For one your using the justice league cartoon superman, a superman much weaker then the original one that we are talking about, plus if its the first episode of the justice league then that means we are at a time where superman was still learning. saying superman would lose to naruto cause he lost to a much weaker enemy is the same as saying naruto would lose cause he lost to choji when they were kids.
Try agian 🙂
Superman was a pro by episode 1 though and yet he still lost. Need I bring up The Batman where Metallo beat him up? That guy’s got human stats and he won. Naruto would be speedblitzing that guy back and forth all day like it was a game. That’s the level of power that Metallo could never hope to bridge. We’re just talking a massive amount of difference to be honest…something that nobody can overcome.
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Metallo may have human stats but he also has superhuman stats. and he only beat superman cause his cyborg body matched his strength and the fact that he legit has a kryptonite heart and an attack that legit can generate kryptionite radiation. and hell he gains several more different types of kryptionite hearts.
and just cause your a pro at something does not mean you stop learning.
Better do your research more carefully next time
Try agian 🙂
He still beats up Superman though and that stuff’s embarrassing man. Naruto wouldn’t lose to Metallo. I’ve been researching Naruto for years and even then there’s never a game over moment for him. He would overwhelm Superman with sheer speed and Power.
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Its embarrasing that superman lost to metallo? Naruto and kurama were knocked out by himawari by one gentle fist move. imagine training all these years to become hokage and then your own daughter knocks you out on the day you reach that goal.
Naruto could beat metallo but metallo’s cyborg body and arsenal were meant to match and defeat superman. like if we were to give superman the chakra rods to fight naruto with, superman would dominate even more. cause he has naruto’s weakness. You cant say its embarrasing that superman lost to metallo cause metallo legit has superman’s weakness as a weapon.
All your doing is looking at supermans previous feats of when he lost to normal characters that you think naruto could beat, but like i said your looking at several different versions of superman, and there at a time when superman is learning.
You must provide more evidence of how naruto would beat superman cause the evidence you provided is poor and overall a bit uncanny
Try agian 🙂
It’s every parents greatest wish to be surpassed by their kid so there’s nothing embarrassing about that. Naruto probably let her win tbh and that’s before I start making excuses for the guy! Superman couldn’t beat Naruto even if he had chakra rods, that’s because Naruto’s too powerful. Don’t forget that Superman also lost to Supergirl in the CW show and he lost badly. What is he going to do against the man who became Hokage? The world’s a cruel place and yet Naruto was able to overcome it. I think that speaks a great deal to his overall ability, skills, and determination. It’s why I cry whenever I think about how great he is.
There’s no more evidence we need. Naruto is faster and stronger than Naruto to the point where it isn’t even close and I say that as a big Superman fan. He just doesn’t have a shot here
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
For one naruto getting knocked out was an example of embarrassment i was making
two superman and supergirl are both in the same ball park in terms of legit everything.
You cant say that naruto is stronger and faster when i legit said that superman could travel back to earth in less then 10 minutes when he was 26 light years away or further. and man legit destroyed a solar system with a sneeze or held up the book filled with infinite pages.
And yes superman can use these strength feats in combat.
he does not choose too cause if he did he would end up destroying planets, perhaps another solar system agian etc.
yes naruto is more expirenced and has a bigger arsenal but supermans durability speed and overall strength and power would put naruto down for good.
Try agian 🙂
Keep in mind that Superman was also taken down by Amazo rather quickly in Justice League. He is constantly getting beaten up by everyone, why do you think he could hold his own for a few minutes against Naruto Uzumaki? Naruto would crush him real quick because of the powers he possesses. Imagine if Naruto decided to use Sage Mode against Superman? That’d be curtains in an instance. I agree with you that Naruto has more experience and a bigger arsenal than Superman. It’s like he has every possible advantage and the win will keep on coming. Feels good man, I dunno what else to tell you. Naruto has this by a longshot because he’s the better fighter
once agian i said no bullshit of comparing superman to weaker characters.
amazo was someone who had a fucking copy ability and pretty much had all of superman’s arsenal . cause before he fought superman he had copied all the super powers of all the members of the justice league. thats why he managed to beat superman.
stop taking supermans defeats out of context to save your precious naruto
Try agian 🙂
Like I said, Superman be losing to everybody. Remember when Joker beat him up in the World’s Finest movie? Knocked Superman out flat with the acid and that was just embarrassing. Naruto would not have lost there
and agian your taking supermans loses out of context, you completely ignore the fact that the acid used to knock out superman was made just for him and it was made with kryptionite.
no shit naruto would not lose there cause he is not weak to kryptonite
Not out of context, Superman just got smacked around a lot. Also don’t forget that he also got wrecked by Brainiac on multiple occasions. Naruto is too busy catching Ws to take any Ls. That’s the difference between these two. Naruto just doesn’t lose on the regular like that. He’s built different
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Your once agian thinking that superman got smacked alot of times your brain thinks that he would get slapped by naruto but thats not how it works.
Your by far one of the worst debaters i have seen
Try agian
Superman gets smacked around by everyone though. Remember how Inter Gang beat him up as well? Naruto would have crushed those guys with ease. Trust me, I’ve been watching Naruto for years and he’s out of Superman’s league tbh
You did it agian
Stop repeating the same thing over and over agian
And stop placing supermans losses out of context cause the characters he loses too are far more powerful then you might think.
hell some of them could even beat naruto
but i know your naruto fan based brain cant accept that
Superman is always losing though, that’s the problem. He’s even lost to Granny Goodness in the past. Meanwhile Naruto would be stomping all of them with ease. He could be eating ramen and having his minions beat Superman up. That’s how wide the gap is here and it’s crazy!
dude granny goodnees was immortal and had superhuman strength and speed. She would legit no joke beat naruto. she has other abilities up her arsenal but i wont go into detail. alot of the villans in the dc universe that superman loses too can legit actually beat naruto.
She’s not bad but Naruto would definitely win via speedblitz. The fact that Superman could not is concerning. I’d say they’re definitely just in completely different leagues so that means Superman is just out of luck here. If he were to try and get in the way of the Rasengan then it would be all over
Why do you think naruto could speed blitz everything? Legit said that she also has superhuman speed too, and if it could match superman that means she has surpassed naruto’s speed.
Seems like you overestimate Naruto too much.
Like fr you overestimate him to a high degree
Naruto is just way faster than these guys. You can’t tell me Granny Goodness is all that fast. Watch any clip of her beating up on Superman and the gang. She appears as slow as a normal human and yet Superman can’t dodge. Naruto would be running rings around them and taking names like it’s nobody’s business. That’s why he’s such a high ranking fighter.
Naruto is not faster. These villans as well as superman have surpassed light speed before.
So far your only evidence is that superman lost to foes who you think are weaker then naruto but you take them out of context or never do the research on the characters that superman is losing too.
If you cant provide me any actual and hard concrete proof of why naruto would win im not buying it.
And im talking hard concrete proof, no bullshit not the same repeating thing
I’ve told you, Superman can surpass light speed in travel speed but not combat speed. It’s why he gets rolled by just about everyone he fights. Superman just can’t move like that and you know it. It’s why Naruto would win. Naruto can actually move faster than light in combat speed and has defeated countless opponents in his day. Superman will just be another notch in the win column for Naruto.
First off i want you to read this entire comment for you to understand.
So far here is your evidence for why naruto would beat superman.
-superman has not used his feats in combat speed
-superman has lost to weaker characters then naruto
Lets tackle the first category before moving foward
So for this im gonna scale naruto’s best feat with superman’s best combat feats.
For this im gonna scale naruto to sasuke for this one.
I dont think i have to explain why.
Sasuke was able to destroy madara’s meteors with just a couple of slices.
Its reasonable naruto can destroy these meteors too as he did try to destroy them himself as well but did not do as good of a job as sasuke.
The force needed to destroy these meteors would require 364 teratons
364 teratons
Remember that.
Now for superman’s strength feat i scale him to shazam.
Reason why?
-they both are similar in strength and speed
-both share similar feats
-both have elemental attacks
Now for shazam’s feat is when he punched a monster so hard that he created a black hole
sadly the image wont work here so just search it up yourself
With the schwarzschild radius for this blackhole being 526 feet
Its mass would be 238 octillion pounds
The energy needed to do this bullshit would require 97 foe.
You may think “well he a giant at the time”
1 unit of foe would equal the energy output of a supernova.
As you can see 1 unit of foe has already surpassed the meteor feat naruto scaled too.
even if shazam would not be able to create a blackhole without being a giant.
he would still be strong enough to at least punch 1 foe
Now for speed.
Naruto’s fastest speed feat would be when he dodge madara’s light speed attack
For him to dodge this he would need to move at 670,616,629 MPH
Now for superman’s feats.
Superman was able to tag zoom
and zoom had the ability to to move out of the regular time flow, where time stops, allowing you to be from one place to another at an almost infinite real speed.
Even zoom admits he rivals his speed
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-21c7dd3b3b2a323b3c70555ccf3e41e6-lq
Still not enough?
ok well how about where even superman admits he can react down to nanoseconds
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c8d5bece3f26ef11a8c7ab7714b2229c-lq
As you can see superman can use his feats in mid combat as proven with his speed feats and shazam fighting agiants the monster
2 sheer hard rock evidence of superman using his feats in combat
But now for the 2nd question
Of why superman loses to weaker characters
There are 3 reasons why he would lose like this.
Either
A:The enemy is using his weakness agiants him
B:The enemy has shown to be as strong as him due to previous feats
and C by far the most important one
C:superman does not wanna put lives at risk.
Lets start with A
For A no shit superman is gonna get the shit beat out of him if his enemy pulls up with kryptonite.
Its his weakness after all what concept of that do you not understand
Naruto would beat them cause the enemy is not using naruto’s weakness.
Lets say batman for example
if batman pulled up with a kryptonite blaster, and shot both superman and naruto,
superman would go down first since he is weak to it but naruto would remain uneffected.
But if batman were to pull up with a gun that drains chakra or disables the use of chakra through the body then naruto would be screwed and superman would remain uneffected.
as for B you overestimate some of the enemy’s superman fights, sure they dont look as cool but there really powerful.
Like lobo for example. he seems like your average villain when in reality he has pulled a danm sun around and not even death would accept him.
And for C: well superman being a hero means he has got to protect a lot of innocent lives. Alot of the times he is losing is in public places like city’s. cause if he were to use his actual power then he would end up destroying the city hurting a lot of lives. But notice how in the 2 images i shown earlier he is using his more powerful feats, cause theirs not a innocent person within miles. meaning he can use more of his powers.
Think of it this way.
Sasuke and boruto hatched a plan to get isshiki out of the leave village, why? so that he does not hurt any innocent lives. In the first fight between naruto and jigen naruto does not use any of his fancy attacks. cause he may end up killing and destroying the village.
Like do you really expect naruto to drop a tailed beast bomb in the village while fighting isshiki or jigen?
didn’t think so
cause it would destroy the village and kill people
That is exactly what superman has to go through.
He has to limit his powers as much as he truly can in public places like city’s to avoid hurting people.
Now that i have explained the points you repeated several times.
I would like a well thought out answer from you.
or maybe finally admit superman beats Naruto.
And im not taking the same bullshit like
But naruto is faster or superman has never done it in combat before, cause i just proved he can up there
Read it agian if you have to
See my other responses I just sent but yeah Superman is strong he’s just not as strong or fast as Naruto.
So far here is what you have been claiming for naruto’s win
-superman has never shown any of his feats in combat
-superman has lost to foes who you think naruto can beat
So what im gonna do is tackle both of these claims in separate comments to make this more understandable
The 1st comment will be on the feats cliam
the 2nd will be on the superman losses claim.
All right I’ll look forward to those two comments but don’t underestimate the man who will become the leader of the ninja
Ok for you to understand that superman can use his previous feats in mid combat.
we will scale naruto’s best strength feat that we have seen to superman’s
For naruto it will be when he destroyed madara’s meteors.
The meteors width looked to be about 23,474,4 meters
And its radius being 11,737.2 meters
If thats the case its volume should be 10,049,754,434 km
To destroy a meteor of that size, you would need an output of 364 teratons
364 teratons. remember that.
Now for superman’s in combat strength feat we have many options here, but i think the best would be to scale superman to another dc character like shazam.
Reasons why?
-there both similar in strength and speed
-both have similar feats
-both have some bit of special powers
Now scaling characters to other characters is not a bad thing, as long as the scale is reasonable and not over the top and its in the same universe.
For shazam’s feat.
Its when he punched a monster so hard he created a black hole.
Now you cant argue with this one cause he is in combat cause he is fighting a monster afterall.
Now with the schwarzschild raidus of the blackhole being 526 feet
This would mean its mass would be about 238 octillion pounds
The energy needed to do something like this would be 97 foe
What is foe in these kind of terms?
1 unit of foe is equal to the energy output of a supernova
and while yes shazam was giant size at the time and cant punch with 97 supernova’s. he definitely can punch with at least 1 unit of foe, which already surpasses naruto’s meteor feat.
and while yes naruto vaporising a lake could be more impressive, keep in mind sasuke was there as well who contributed to this feat meaning we would have to half it. and even if we did not the black hole feat would still be far more greater.
OK so now you know superman is stronger but what about speed.
as you keep saying he cant perform his light speed feats in combat speed.
BUT HE CAN!
If we scale naruto’s fastest reaction feat to when he dodged madara’s light fang attack
This would mean naruto would be moving at 670,616,629 MPH
Now for superman, his reaction speed would be when he managed to tag zoom. and zoom has the ability to to move out of the regular time flow, where time stops, allowing you to be from one place to another at an almost infinite real speed. WAY FASTER THEN NARUTO”S LIGHT SPEED FEAT
AND HERE IS ZOOM SAYING THAT SUPERMAN”S SPEED RIVALS HIS OWN
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-21c7dd3b3b2a323b3c70555ccf3e41e6-lq
So there you have it. Yes superman can use his previous feats in combat speed.
And if your still sceptical about the strength feat.
Superman has punched time and space itself mid combat as well.
Those are really impressive feats but you’re still not showing the speed here. Superman used reaction times to tag Zoom there. Also it is worth noting that Naruto dodged Madara’s light speed attack like it was a bowl of cheesecake. He did it with ease which is the crazy part. Still, I know what you’re saying about Superman and I acknowledge that he is the strongest comic book character of all time. I’ve said that from the start and it’s absolutely true. Here’s the problem though, even with that he is not getting close to Naruto. Naruto can make thousands of clones and each one has his power even without the durability. Superman wouldn’t even be able to get close enough to find the real body and that’s what will hold him back here. He’s strong but still can’t keep up in combat
Now for your claim of superman losing to some villans
Here are 3 reasons as to why this happens
REASON 1:The enemy is using his weakness agiants him (kryptonite)
REASON 2:The enemy is just that strong of a character
REASON 3:Superman has his powers limited due to public safety
Lets tackle reason 1
For reason one you can say superman would lose to naruto cause he lost to someone like lets say batman who naruto would blitz.
Cause most of the time when batman fights superman he always comes prepared with some kryptonite weapon or a suit meant to match superman strength.
Like if batman were to pull up with a kryptonite blaster and shoot both superman and naruto.
Superman would be weakened heavily while naruto remains unharmed
Cause naruto is not weak to kryptonite while superman is.
But if batman were to pull up with a blaster that drains chakra or some kind of weapon to stop the flow of chakra through the body. Then naruto would be weakened heavily while superman remains unharmed by its effects.
For reason 2 you have to understand that the dc villans are a lot stronger then you might think.
Take lobo for example. Lobo may seem like your average villan, but in reality he has pulled a sun around and he was so bad that not even death could collect his soul.
Dont underestimate dc villans, cause tbh alot of them could actually smack naruto whether if you BELIEVE IT or not.
And for reason 3, yes this is true and i explained it already. Superman has to limit his powers to keep people safe.
Notice how when he is fighting zoom theres not a innocent person within miles, and notice how almost every time superman is defeated in the justice leauge cartoon, its always been in a city.
Its cause if he used his actual strength and speed agiants villans. he may injure any innocent lives in the city.
Lets take it to another degree
Naruto and sasuke had to fight jigen.
Notice how before they truly fight jigen, They fight jigen in a place where there away from the village.
The same goes when jigen becomes isshiki.
Sasuke and boruto have a plan to trap jigen in a different dimension agian. cause if they fought jigen or isshiki in the village where theres innocent people, they may injure them.
Like naruto is not just gonna drop a tailed beast bomb in the village while fighting isshiki right?
Thats why they fight jigen and isshiki in different dimensions, its so they can go all out without any innocent people hurt.
For superman thats excatly whats happening. Superman keeps losing, but he loses when he is not at his best and theres people to protect, He is limited cause of earths safety.
But once every innocent person is away from the fight. Superman wont be afraid to unleash a bit of his true power to win the fight.
So there you have it. You cant say naruto would win cause naruto would beat other villans superman loses to, The enemy keeps using his weakness or powers agiants him, there really strong and superman has to have his powers limited.
Now, You should see why superman would win. And im not taking the same bullshit for an answer.
All right, I can say that Superman does fight powerful opponents but nobody on Naruto’s level. I think you made some really good points here but I have 3 reasons why Naruto would win.
1. He has more abilities. The multi shadow clone jutsu can make thousands of clones that all have his abilities.
2. Naruto is better at fighting with combat feats and has more experience. Superman just isn’t going to be consistently showing off any good abilities in a fight because he is completely outmatched. That is what hurts him here.
3. Naruto can dodge at any given time and turn the tables on Superman. Superman is fast but not fast enough to handle Naruto in his more powerful forms where he just vanishes. It’s like he was never there and is virtually teleportation.
LOL
Allow me to debunk everything you said.
1. Yes naruto has a bigger arsenal but that arsenal is made up of legit 2 jutsu’s. The shadow clone jutsu and the rasengan. rasenshruiken is just a rasengan with the element of wind added to it. then naruto just has bigger rasengans and some rasengans mixed with sage jutsu.
Yes naruto has a big arsenal but its really only composed of 2 jutsu’s.
besides just cause you have a bigger arsenal does not mean its an instant win.
2.Yes he is more experienced but combat feats? i just explained that superman’s combat feats were way better then naruto’s, maybe you should read agian 🙂
3.Naruto yes can dodge at high speeds but once agian i legit explained that superman was able to tag zoom who had an ability to move at infinite speeds
You do know what infinite means right?
Okay so for the first one you’re forgetting that Naruto can also use the transformation jutsu, Biju bombs, extend his arms, use the Fox mode, in baryon all stats improve, etc. Naruto has so many tricks up his sleeve and Superman will utterly be confused at all points in time. He doesn’t have the tools to block those attacks either which is the real issue for him.
For 2. Superman’s feats were good but I wouldn’t say better. Naruto was casually fighting against an opponent like Madara whose attacks are downright ludicrous. To go up against him so long was crazy and not something Superman could have pulled off.
No such thing as infinite speed but I do get that Zoom was very fast. I still wouldn’t put that as being more impressive than Naruto dodging the light speed attack though
For one Why the hell would his transformation jutsu matter? 2nd superman has fought foes who just pull so much bullshit out of their ass that its almost crazy, and most of the arsenal that you brought up is complete dog shit agiants superman. baryon mode? superman just has to outlast naruto and naruto would end up without kurama and therfore at a HUGE DISADVANTAGE. Biju bombs? a tailed beast bomb could destroy mountains while superman takes hits from supervona’s and heavy hitters who could destroy planets. The fox mode is complete weak as shit to superman and hell superman could wreck naruto’s shit if he ever went into that mode.
For 2, naruto casually fighting madara is a complete lie. Naruto and the shinobi alliance struggled to fight madara, even the 9 tailed beast struggled and lost. Even when naruto had the sage of the six paths powers, He still needed help from sasuke and even then he could not kill madara.
madara was planetary level while superman was already passed that point, so superman could easily deal with madara, hell superman could pretty much solo the naruto verse.
As for 3 yes infinite speed is not real, In non fiction…
This is a fictional world. so yes infinite speed is real.
And how the hell do you believe naruto’s light speed feat surpasses infinite speed?
Like explain that to me right now
Sure, looks like I gotta break out the key points here. First, the transformation jutsu is key because it lets Naruto turn into throwing stars and all kinds of stuff so it would be hard for Superman to ever know where the real one is at. Superman would just be sad and confused the whole time. Next, The Biju bombs are absolutely insane. Even if Superman survives those hits, he’ll be taking a lot of damage. Now imagine Naruto spamming those blows the whole time? That’s game set and match!
Point 2 gets pretty interesting. So Naruto in his Baryon mode is absolutely insane. Even Madara would have fallen in an instant. Superman isn’t ready for that kind of action. He wouldn’t be able to compete in that close range kind of battle and the sad thing is that I’d sorta be rooting for him a bit. Superman would do well in the Naruto series up through the beginning of Shippuden but then it gets tricky.
As for infinite speed, nah it’s not real even in fiction. Everything has a limit whether it’s GER, speed, power, etc. Nothing can ever go past finite limits. As for Naruto’s light speed being better, it’s because he did it casually in a battle context. He showed us his crazy speed while Superman just doesn’t look as impressive.
Dumb as shit
Point 1 Naruto transforming to try and trick superman is gonna fail since superman has x ray vision and super eyesight, and yes while the tailed beast bombs are insane they dont explode on contact since killer bee was able to hold one off before it got teleported by minato. if killer bee could do it no shit that superman who benched pressed the earth for days can do it.
Point 2 yes baryon mode is insanely powerful and alot of naruto characters are gonna fall to it. But the problem is that it cant even last 30 minutes from what we have seen and this is me being generous, then agian while we dont know how super strong naruto is with baryon mode, its definetly not on a planetary scale,even if it was it still would not be strong enough to take him down,plus keep in mind the more stronger moves naruto uses the less likely baryon mode will last, right after naruto used just 1 rasengan, he already started to show signs of fatigue, after all naruto was planning to outlast isshiki, not kill him,though it would be in his favor if he did. hell its very unlikely superman’s life span would be dropped that fast considering during the baryon mode fight, isshiki really only had a couple hours left to live. meanwhile superman has days on end to live, so yeah i dont think baryon mode is gonna take down superman, since baryon mode really is not gonna last long if it cant even survive 30 minutes or less.
Point 3, it does exist, wally west has been able to move at infinite speeds too cause one of his speed feats were so great that it was impossible to comprehend and calculate. Thats just how bullshit the Dc universe is. Even if zoom was not moving at infinite speeds, he still definetly was moving faster then anything naruto had to deal with, and hell zoom is not even one of the greatest feats superman has for combat speed, he even has admitted to reacting down to nano seconds after proving it. nano seconds are way faster then light.
And dude just cause naruto’s light speed reaction looks to be more impressive does not mean its better.
looks aren’t everything, superman’s may just look normal but thats mostly cause his bets speed feats are on comics while we see naruto’s speed feats were shown both in the anime and manga.
Once agian you provided shit evidence as always
I’ve got some real good evidence here this time tbh. Super eyesight won’t help against transformation because Naruto literally becomes the object. It’s why my guy’s so broken here!
Superman wouldn’t last more than 30 minutes against Baryon. Remember that it absorbs your life force as you fight. Only reason Isshiki lasted so long is because his race is near immortal and lasts for tons of generations. Superman would be out of energy and life real quick if Naruto started draining him. I agree that Superman could win if Naruto was holding back but he isn’t here. Naruto is just going straight for the win.
Comics do work against Superman so I agree with you there. It’s harder to show good feats that way as opposed to the manga but it just be like that sometimes. Zoom is really fast but you’re telling me that he’s faster than the guys Naruto has gone up against? Look, no disrespect to Superman but he’s out of his league here and it shows.
Time to debunk it all
For 1. supermans super eyesight would still be able to see naruto being that object or whatever bullshit he would be.
For 2 your wrong on so many levels.
For one yes it absorbs your life force but only if naruto lands an attack on you. even then baryon mode did not last more then 30 minutes and thats me being generous its most likely below 20.
For isshiki being near immortal
Its not true immortality. there really only immortal by switching vessels which is the entire fucking plot on why isshiki needed kawaki. Besides for the entire fucking battle isshiki’s life spam was dropped from about from perhaps 20 hours to 30 minutes once naruto started to lose agian, meaning isshiki did not even have a full day left to live. meanwhile superman has fucking years left to live and baryon mode was not enough to even reduce isshiki’s life span to a full day.
OH BUT I DONT THINK I NEEDED TO EXPLAIN THIS ANY FURTHER CAUSE WHOOPS
I FORGOT TO TELL YOU SUPERMAN IS IMMORTAL AS WELL
whoops forgot to tell you that.
so yeah naruto’s overall life span thing is not gonna do shit. agiants someone who has thousands of years to live and is immortal anyway. yeah sorry.
For 3 Yes the answer is yes Zoom is faster then anything naruto has faced. man can keep pace with the flash, and i swear to god if I EVEN HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHY ITS FASTER THEN YOU NEED TO SEEK HELP.
and bare in mind i said this was not superman’s fastest speed feat.
Oh whats that superman is out of his league?
Ah yes the guy who bench pressed the earth cant compete with the blonde guy who got his tailed beast extracted and died on the spot while his mother who is way weaker then him got her tailed beats extracted from her and managed to last long enough to even be the meat shield to defend Naruto agiants the very tailed beast he had in him.
Makes sense.
It does make sense but unironically. Look, I like Superman. He’s the Man of Steel. Superman was born on the fictional planet Krypton and was named Kal-El. As a baby, his parents sent him to Earth in a small spaceship moments before Krypton was destroyed in a natural cataclysm. His ship landed in the American countryside, near the fictional town of Smallville. He was found and adopted by farmers Jonathan and Martha Kent, who named him Clark Kent. Clark developed various superhuman abilities, such as incredible strength and impervious skin. His adoptive parents advised him to use his abilities for the benefit of humanity, and he decided to fight crime. To protect his personal life, he changes into a colorful costume and uses the alias “Superman” when fighting crime. Clark resides in the fictional American city of Metropolis, where he works as a journalist for the Daily Planet. Superman’s supporting characters include his love interest and fellow journalist Lois Lane, Daily Planet photographer Jimmy Olsen and editor-in-chief Perry White, and his enemies include General Zod, Brainiac, and his archenemy Lex Luthor.
Superman is the quintessential example of the superhero archetype: he wears an outlandish costume, uses a codename, and fights evil with the aid of extraordinary abilities. Although there are earlier characters who arguably fit this definition, it was Superman who popularized the superhero genre and established its conventions. He was the best-selling superhero in American comic books up until the 1980s.
There’s a lot to like about him and that’s even part of an excerpt from Wikipedia. That said, he still can’t win this one. Naruto would absolutely mess him up and be drop kicking Superman all over the map. I don’t want to see that. It pains me to mention how Superman would be absolutely humbled here but at the same time I can’t just ignore it right? I gotta face the facts and this is just one of them. It feels bad man but Superman isn’t going to do much here.
Baryon Mode would be punching the living daylights out of him and Superman would barely even be able to react to what is going on. Their abilities are far too different. As for Zoom moving fast, he is fast but not as fast as Naruto. Remember that Haku was moving faster than light in pre arc and Naruto is hundreds of times faster and stronger since then
OK so your so called plan was to list superman’s entire backstory then say that naruto would win cause once agian, combat speed, And at this point i explained superman’s combat speed feats being superior to naruto’s WITH ACTUAL MATH CALCULATIONS
Once agian zoom is WAYYYY faster then naruto. Hell he could even control time itself. Once agian zoom can keep up with the flash… and flash, well… He is fucking flash i dont have to explain it.
And if i do your not actually a dc fan and prob just looked on wikepedia for supermans whole backstory.
Once agian baryon mode could not last 30 minutes and since superman is immortal,it would only mean naruto was nailing in his own coffin. No naruto does not have the strength to kill superman cause we dont know baryon naruto’s full strength, one thing is for sure though, its not planetary so i would say superman can outlast baryon mode.
And why bring haku into this? You keep saying light speed this light speed that but i have to keep saying superman is faster then lightspeed.
I hate repeating myself over and over
I wanted to show you just how knowledgeable I am about Superman. I’m a bit of a mega fan you could say. Superman has nothing that could touch Naruto though and I’m not just saying that as a fan. It’s just that Naruto is on another level with his combat speed. Superman is faster than light speed but so is Naruto to the point where it is almost impossible to calc him. Naruto is absolutely broken and I hate to see it…but at the same time I love to see it. It proves that Naruto will always have a special place in my heart and for vs debates.
As long as he can move and use ninjutsu, I don’t see Superman being able to carve out a win.
Dude you saying supermans entire backstory does not change anything, besides its not hard to just look through wikepedia and just list all of superman’s backstory process.
Once agian i already told you, Superman has much better combat speed feats then naruto has, and better feats to begin with.
Once agian
Have you seen naruto destroy a planet before?
Like think about that
Have you actually seen naruto through his entire life have seen him destroy a planet before.
Once agian superman can recat down to nano seconds which are faster then light so idk why you still persist to say naruto is faster XD
Hell you never calculated a single thing into naruto’s feats, i had to do it for you.
It should though because I used it in my own words. I’m just a massive Superman fan. Naruto has fought people who destroyed stars and solar systems so of course he could blow up a planet. He could do it really quickly too. As for Superman, remember…
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He’s not doing anything to Naruto. Naruto will be running rings around him and landing devastating blows the whole time.
I had just remembered that this existed
Anyway
Even if naruto has fought characters who are star level, and btw there are no actual naruto characters who have actually been solar system level nor star level.
Superman is universal level and greater, and keep in mind all the times naruto has fought so called moon to star level opponents, he needed help.
Superman has fought multiversal beings all on his own.
Two
The evidence you showed was once again invalid to what I claimed
First off, I already said I would be using comic book superman only, if we include every media then its just a stomp cause he gets more feats.
Second of all, the dude was legit shot by a kryptonite beam, the thing that makes him weak. Sure naruto could easily tank it, mostly due to the fact that he is not weak to kryptonite, but I can say the same thing for how naruto gets put down so easily with chakra rods stabbing him, whereas superman could easily shrug them off.
I want feats that actually outplay superman feats
I already mentioned a couple of superman feats, like how he can legit lift planets and sneeze solar systems away.
Already mentioned how he can simply outspeed naruto since he can keep up with
the flash, who can fight battles in a pico second
Im actually gonna do a calculated feat for this one since you always think naruto is faster
K so for reference,
Naruto’s fastest known feat was when he dodged madara’s light beam
For him to dodge it, he would need to move about
670,000,000 mph
For reference
The speed of light is 670 616 629mph
Nice but tbh its really close to the speed of light, hell this calculation just proves naruto only moves at light speeds, though I’m sure he is faster.
Next is superman comparing to the flash for the picosecond
A pico second is one trillionth of a second so
0.000 000 000 001 seconds
The speed of light in meters per picosecond is 3 × 10-4 m/pico second.
Though a picosecond is 1 x 10-12 seconds
Convert that to mph and its
2.2369362920544 mph
now see the comparison
2.2369362920544 mph
670000000 mph
As you can see, the difference in speed is far to wide
And your the guy that said naruto was faster. Crazy
He has tanked 5 supernova’s to the face
Meanwhile naruto has only tanked a beam that could slice the moon in half
I would calculate this one buuuuttt
This guy did it for me
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/moon-level-naruto-debunked-2254284/
In fact he actually debunked it
Lemme just grab a couple of shit he said for toneri to slice the moon
Kinetic energy = 1/2 x m x v^2
Moon’s mass is 7.3476731e+22 kg
Velocity = distance/time. Now based on the consistent shots, the distance appears 5-10m at most, but for sake of highballing let’s go with 20m instead. The time it took for the split to complete is 2 seconds in the movie. 20m/2s = 10 m/s
KE = 1/2 x 7.3476731e+22 x 10
KE = 3.6738366e+23 joules or 87.80 Teraton of TNT (Country+ Level)
Danm that shit ain’t even moon level
And hell he even used the mass of the real moon, not the naruto one, and the naruto moon was hollowed
now for superman tanking a supernova
1 supernova’s energy output would be 1044 joules
1044 joules is basically
10 tredecillion joules
tredecillion is 1, followed by 48 fucking zero’s
and bare in mind, superman took 5 of them
Naruto is not gonna put him down
Superman can survive a whole lot to be sure so it will take a while for Naruto to beat him but at the same time he can be knocked out real easy. So once Naruto knocks him out then he can just keep landing blows at will. Naruto can just make thousands of shadow clones that are all landing blows. Just imagine the attack power multiplied by that many. It’s almost hard to fathom which is why Naruto’s just on a completely different level for the most part. He continues to go higher and higher in the rankings with no end in sight. Even in Boruto he was able to quickly take down some of the most powerful villains and that was when he wasn’t at full strength.
I get what you mean about Superman tanking a Supernova but he’s routinely taken down by normal lasers and attacks. They may not destroy him but once he’s unconscious then getting taken down for the count is the next step. Superman won’t be able to resist or dodge once he’s on the ground and then that’s Naruto’s chance to just get in there.
He can sense life aura and such so no matter how fast Superman goes, he won’t be taking the win here. He will be consistently outmatched and Naruto’s expert Taijutsu will be crushing him in the end. Superman will have a hard time landing any blows and that’s where the combat speed and tactics come in. At the end of the day you need that if you are going to get the grand win.
Knocks him out? My guy took a supernova to the face and survived. a puch from naruto ain’t knocking him out, and naruto’s clone would simply be destroyed by superman heat vision. The narutoverse’s strongest villains have been stated to cap at like star level, but superman villains are universal to multiversal.
And i already showed you how fast superman is compared to naruto, its not a contest.
You have nothing to prove that naruto is faster when i already showed you how much faster superman is.
And even then you have yet to show proof of what you claim
Whats the point in being a taijutsu expert when your opponent also studied martial arts and can think and react faster then you.
Combat speed is absolute bs and i hate how people use it as a means of debating.
I already showed you superman could hang with barry fallen and wally west, they have had speed feats and fights that lasted less then picoseconds, and yet naruto struggles to catch shin in one of his strongest forms.
Superman also took a tripod blast in episode one of Justice League and was knocked out cold. I don’t trust him to be able to stand up to Naruto’s attacks for very long. He would quickly be taken on a trip there.
I always show proof for everything I say. Which one do you want for this fight?
Naruto has better combat speed though so even if Superman can think fast he won’t be able to land any decisive blows here. Naruto will just keep spamming Rasengan and all of the other attacks until he has claimed victory. That’s what puts him in a different league.
Superman can fly towards Naruto at massively FTL speeds but once he actually gets there then it’ll all be over. He won’t be able to stop or counter any of Naruto’s strikes.
Agian, the superman you speak of is not the same kind of superman that’s from the original comics, that version of superman from the justice league series is much weaker then the one from the comics.
And even then naruto has been weakened and knowed out cold by way less
There have been times where a stabbing has put him down
times where he gets knocked out cold in one punch
and times where he has struggled against outspeeding an opponent
and then there are times where he always needs some help to finish the job, which is not a bad thing, but when you look at superman where most of his greatest feats were done on his own.
Naruto cannot continue to spam shadow clones and rasengans over and over.
For one that take sup a huge amount of stamina and chakra even for him, he may have stupid amounts of chakra and stamina but its still limited and during the war arcs and boruto series he has ran out of chakra and stamina and needed outside help to recover.
Which is why he cant spam the rasengan every second he gets a chance too, he needs to save his chakra because the opponent could easily deal with the bundles of clones naruto spawns
Hell the more clone summoned, the more chakra he is forced to distribute evenly across the clones, which is why his clones get weaker and weaker the more summoned, because they lack enough chakra to survive.
which is why you rarely see naruto summon thousands of clones with giant rasengans to fight, it wastes a lot of chakra and its mostly used to help buy time or try to stop an attack or overwhelm an opponent.
With superman, that’s not the case
One punch from superman could easily deal with any of naruto’s clones no matter how much he summons.
and i already showed how faster superman is compared to naruto with the supported evidence from the flash and reverse flash.
Meanwhile you fail to even show me why naruto would be faster.
Naruto has casually dodged the speed of light before:
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Superman’s not doing anything to this guy in a combat sense. Naruto is just built different and will be absolutely dominating when it counts. His clones will be just as fast so Superman isn’t hitting them. As for Naruto conserving his chakra, he’s basically Mr. Chakra. He can spam for a long while without running around. I know his power level is insanely good but that’s just how he is. He started the series with a lot of chakra and then he got even more as he ended the series. It’s why he can spam so much because there isn’t anyone who can really push him hard enough to lose the rest of it. That’s just who Naruto is, a living hero and legend!
Naruto may allow for some help at times but he never needs it. There is a reason why he is known as the Shinobi of legend. If there is an opponent to be defeated then golly, Naruto is going to take him down old school! Naruto isn’t the kind of guy to back down from a fight. Instead he will continue to move forward until he has destroyed everyone in his way. Superman may have travel feats and general moves but in a combat situation he won’t be fast enough to win. Naruto has those reactions on point without a doubt. Superman in the show may be weaker but is he so much weaker that it would not be worth looking at that scene of losing to a tripod?
Yeah ik thats the feat i always mentioned with his light speed.
Problem is for one he is in his strongest form to do this though as an adult he could be faster now (not that it would matter)
2nd of all the feat i showed for superman was far faster then what naruto displayed, i legit showed you a calculation about it.
Here is what i previously had wrote
“K so for reference,
Naruto’s fastest known feat was when he dodged madara’s light beam
For him to dodge it, he would need to move about
670,000,000 mph
For reference
The speed of light is 670 616 629mph
Nice but tbh its really close to the speed of light, hell this calculation just proves naruto only moves at light speeds, though I’m sure he is faster.
Next is superman comparing to the flash for the picosecond
A pico second is one trillionth of a second so
0.000 000 000 001 seconds
The speed of light in meters per picosecond is 3 × 10-4 m/pico second.
Though a picosecond is 1 x 10-12 seconds
Convert that to mph and its
2.2369362920544 mph
now see the comparison
2.2369362920544 mph
670000000 mph
As you can see, the difference in speed is far to wide
And your the guy that said naruto was faster. Crazy”
so no, naruto’s light speed feat cant match superman speed feat by being compared to the flash
While naruto has been capable of spamming his clones, what good are his clones if they can be wiped out with heat vision, its just wasted chakra at that point.
Just cause he was born and has 100x more chakra then most shinobi does not mean he can do it endlessly, during the war arc, both him and kurama have ran out of chakra to use before due to constant rasengan and shadow clone spamming, the claim you seem to make that gives naruto the win which is not true.
Naruto has needed help before, and when i mean needed i mean he really fucking needed help. For example, when his tailed beast got extracted and was on the verge of death, he needed gaara’s help to get him to minato and sakura’s help to keep him alive. Minato and obito helped by giving sealing the other half of kurama inside naruto and finally, needed the power boost from the sage of the six paths to even stand a chance against madara and eventually kaguya.
Another example is when he needed his fathers help to teleport everyone outside of the barrier to save them from a couple of tailed beast bombs, without minato’s help everyone apart from the reanimated shinobi would be dead.
Naruto still needed help throughout all of those, granted he can do a lot of things on his own, but your claim saying he never needed help is nothing but a lie.
saying superman should lose cause he got hit by a tripod is the same as saying naruto should lose cause he got knocked out with one punch by his own daughter.
even then you have not shown me superman getting knocked around by a tripod anyway
Oh I thought I’d linked the Superman losing to tripod clip before. They all seem paywalled right now so your best bet is go to the first episode of Justice League if you have HBO Max and skip to near the end of the episode. The tripods land in the city and one immediately takes Superman down with a casual energy blast. Not a big energy blast mind you but a casual one and Superman got rocked.
Naruto doesn’t need help when it counts though. Never has….never will! He’s his own man and someone with incredible amounts of power after all. A single punch from Naruto could take most opponents down. The difference with Superman is he lost to an enemy while Naruto was humoring his daughter. It’s a massive difference right there. So lets not lose perspective on that. It’s a whole world of difference after all, differences of unimaginable proportions.
Okay now to get into the nitty gritty of the case. Naruto can run out of chakra, that’s true but it would take a very long time. He could be spamming the shadow clones in the meanwhile and there wouldn’t be much of a way to stop him. Superman would have gone down a long time ago by that point so it wouldn’t really matter much. Superman doesn’t have the durability needed to take on Naruto for a very long time. Superman’s best bet is to try and win quickly but that’s much easier said than done. No sir Superman is about to get absolutely devastated in this fight and I’m not even sure if I’m ready to see that. It’s going to be absolutely brutal my man.
Now the pico second stuff is pretty intense but keep in mind that the Flash has been crushed by many weaker and slower opponents back in the day. Superman may have travel speed but Naruto has combat speed and I would take that every day all day. Combat speed is what will win you the hard matches when all else fails.
How was naruto humoring his daughter, if its your big day to become the one thing you wanted since your childhood, and suddenly your son is getting attacked by your daughter, what part of humoring is in that category, now I’m not saying himawari can beat naruto, I’m saying that comparing some random ass feat in one point of their timeline does not show the full extent of ones power.
Im pretty sure tripods which are capable of destroying cities is much more threatening then a little girl with a strong punch.
And even then i had already said that your using the cartoon superman when comic book superman has superior feats.
So now in what form can naruto’s shadow clones stack up to that of a supernova, hell 5 of them at that.
or be capable of taking down beings capable of threatening the multiverse.
remember, moreclones=more chakra to disperse among them, which means more shit durability and less chakra, granted their still strong and very tough. But against superman, there just a waste of chakra.
Hell superman wiped out an army of doomsday’s in Superman/Batman: Apocalypse
and bare in mind, comic book superman was stronger and could wipe out a whole solar system with a sneeze.
Not every clone of naruto has the same power output of the original,this is because of the chakra that needs to be dispered among them
And again, why are you comparing the flash’s previous feats that were only fodder.
and even then where is the proof of this.
Catwoman is not an example because again those flash’s were controlled by somebody who did not know how to use their speed well, and plus she has similar skills to batman who has kept up with beings as fast as flash.
deathstroke ain’t a good example either, the dude also has perception skills similar to that of batman. he is not faster then the flash, he could only predict where he would move, and this took a lot of analyzation and prep time in order for him to do so.
Idk why you keep bringing out combat speed when the picosecond feats literally is that of actual combat.
Naruto didn’t want to hurt her ego because he’s just too nice for his own good. Trust me on this one, he was taking the high road and I’m proud of him for that. He is absolutely the guy you want on your team for that reason. That said, Naruto could have won the fight with ease if he wanted too but he didn’t want to. He would have stolen her moment if he did anything there so he allowed himself to be defeated. It was really a wholesome moment.
Animated Superman losing like that is still crazy though and shows the gap between him and the others. Trust me on this one….that Tripod wasn’t super powerful like that.
Bruh Flash lost to a banana peel once.
Deathstroke no diff’d him as well
I mean check this out
So I get it, Flash and friends are powerful but even they have their limits. Sometimes you just have to hold the L and keep it moving. It’s the only thing to do really. Deathstroke may have perception but cmon that shouldn’t be enough when you’re faster than light. It’s why I say the whole picosecond thing and all that other speed stuff isn’t combat speed but travel speed. When you change it to travel then suddenly everything else makes a whole lot more sense. Cmon you have to agree with me on that one right? Otherwise how is he getting hit so much? It just wouldn’t make sense. No sense at all I tell ya!
Naruto actually has consistent high level feats so he can take on either one. He has the strength to deal with Superman and the speed to deal with the Flash. He’s the all around package that has everything you could ever need. That is why he is so powerful
What ego? himawari had no ego to begin with, her only goal was to get boruto for ripping her teddy bear, yes no shit naruto could easily beat her daughter no shit but my point for bringing it up is because we cant trust stupid outliers like these to effect how the characters true performence is, thats what u keep doing for superman
clearly you dont even read your own evidence, apperently this so called banana peel is atomic which either apperently makes it hella slippery, even so this was in flash’s early days, this was before he got his better speed feats
You also cant read agian
instead you provide me evidence of deathstroke being a genius at play
like i said, deathstroke cant match flash’s speed but instead predict where he would strike, agian, deathstroke needs time to know his opponents attack patterns to find a weakness
not only that but the explosves were there to make sure the flash woudl only go one route and that was behind him
notice how deathstroke had one explosive in front of him, one on his left and one on his right.
the flash would avoid these explosions and would attack deathstroke form behind, detahstroke knew this and therfore predicted the incoming attack.
Instead of showing proof of the flash not being fast, you showed why he got stabbed by deathstroke
because he had time to plan the attack and outsmart him, for a bit
its literally evident in the comic that YOU Posted
your just proving my point that detahstroke could only managed to hit flash was either he found soem powerto match flash speed or he had time to analyze the flash’s attack patterns
and keep in mind, this is the deathstroke who fought barry allen the flash, the one in the comic is wally west,
wally west took barry’s place after he died, deathstroke had already fought barry and knew all his tricks, hence why he did well fighting agiants wally, because he knew a lot of what the flash’s powers were including attack patterns
the third piece makes 0 sense, your talking bout green lantern who has survived an entire universe being erased before
nope, flash’s picosecond feat is still true, a reactionary feat cannot be a travel speed feat, one that naruto has never been able to do, and since superman could keep up with the flash, superman speedblitzes naruto
naruto is not faster then superman and where did you get the idea that he was stronger, superman sneezing a solar system away is already higher then what any naruto character has done, he has taken on universal foes whiel naruto could probably deal with a planetary to star level at best
I agree about outliers but the problem here is really that Naruto losing there was a comedy scene while the other one was played seriously. Also Superman has tons of moments where he’s gotten beat by randoms all around.
Now keep in mind that I like Superman but he’s not built for this. I would also argue that the whole Deathstroke moment is still really awful for him. No matter how much planning you have, the guy is still barely superhuman while the Flash has almost limitless speed. He shouldn’t have been tripped like that at all. It’s a really rough look for him and so that’s why in combat Naruto would be the one doing the blitzes.
As for Superman vs Naruto, Naruto would just hit him with a few of those Rasengan shots as soon as Superman got close. He’s not getting up from that. The sneezing a solar system away is an impressive feat but not something that would shake a jinjuriki. Naruto can dig into the ground and hold his distance until Superman comes in. Once he rushes in then he will be getting smacked all the way around
Another example of these weird outliers is when naruto sasuke and sakura fought agiants shin uchiha and his army, we see naruto and sasuke constantly getting stabbed there and being put down easily, but by that logic are we supposed to say, “since they got stabbed so easily they must be hella weak”
absolutely not. You and I both know they were holding back as well as protecting people.
In superman’s case, he holds back due to his massive amount of power he has.
Theres no way your gonna see superman use a solar system busting feat in a city filled with innocent people, he is constantly holding back power so that he does not end up destroying the planet he is trying to protect
But by your blog rules, he is fighting naruto in some random final destination place, which means he has no reason to hold back, which means all his outliers of him getting punted around are completely irrelevant now, because a majority of his fights where he is getting tossed is either by stronger foes, him holding back power, or the opponent is using kryptonite, and even more so your using feats from superman’s show’s and not the comics where he is much stronger,
His strength and speed are not what allowed him to hit the flash, its his mind that could allow him, his brain can work out any situation given to him and adapt accordingly, especially with prep time
also what made you think the flash was also going all out, cause when he did, he easily defeated deathstroke
and you have to remember, the evidence you showed was wally west fighting deathstroke, deathstroke had so much expirence fighting barry allen when he was the flash, with his quick mind, and good strategizing and good reflexes, as well as already knowing tricks that flash people use, thats why he could land a blow
Dont underestimate the mind
sure yes he has superhuman stats, but when your able to think of a plan of attack and know exactly what your opponent is gonna do next, then the flash would need to do the same, and when he did he actually won agianst deathstroke, mostly cause he no longer held back.
The rasengan would not be able to damage superman that much, superman has tanked attacks above planetary level like the supernova feat i showed way back, and has survived fighting characters who are universal strong
the tailed beast cap at around mountain to possible country level, Solar system destruction is far beyond them and hell superman can do even more, he can amp it up to universal, even multiversal if he so wishes
naruto diggin into the ground is a shit idea, first of all, superman can fly, him digging into the ground would be useless if he cant even reach superman
another thing is that superman has x ray vision, so he would find naruto hiding in the ground
and if anyone getting smacked, its naruto, if superman decides to not hold back againts naruto, naruto is gonna end up like what happend with him and isshiki
pick up a comic for once and actually see how strong superman actually is
Naruto really pops up when he goes under the ground though so I think you’re selling him a tad bit short eh? Superman can go in the air but then he has to be tense and watch out for where Naruto pops out from. His X Ray vision won’t be fast enough to keep up. Trust me I’ve read most of the Superman comics and he’s getting stomped here. Mans has a hard time going up against Batman let alone someone like Naruto.
He’ll be on the back foot here because each Rasengan would throw him for a loop. Naruto’s attacks are easily planetary if not universal at this point. He just needs to press the advantage and Superman will be overwhelmed with thousands of Narutos all hitting him at once.
There’s no defending the Flash and Deathstroke scene. I get what you’re saying but it just shows that the Flash isn’t super fast when it comes to combat speed and that also hurts Superman by extension. Comic characters just tend to have a lot more limits and trust me it’s rough but it’s just how it is.
Now you’re right about the battlefield. It’s a neutral field so absolutely no holding back or anything like that. It’s just that even with that I don’t see Superman doing a whole lot here. Naruto is physically superior by just about every metric and his large array of ninjutsu are too much. We haven’t even talked about what he’ll do to Superman once he enters Baryon mode and starts stealing his energy! Look at how Parasite is always draining Superman and what that does to him. Superman’s never good against absorption.
Superman’s X ray vision can be switched on and off easily so he’s not gonna have trouble finding naruto underground and even then his super hearing can hear distress calls from several planets or stars away so finding naruto wont be hard
Batman has only been able to beat superman under 3 circumstances
1: he had prep time and exploited all his weaknesses while giving himself strengths.
2: Batman had help to beat superman
3: Superman was holding back
Planetary Naruto is acceptable but universal Naruto is a big No-No
Provide evidence of naruto even being universal to begin with.
You haven’t told me any reason for why any of my points for death stroke hitting the flash are invalid, you just denied and said that it looked bad and therefore “Flash is not faster than naruto”
Here are my points
1: Deathstroke has had several combat expirence agiants faster opponents
2: Deathstroke had prep time to give him an advantage
3: Flash was not using his full speed
(Bonus: The flash has beaten deathstroke more times then deathstroke has)
Provide evidence of Naruto being physically stronger than superman, ya know the guy who can sneeze solar systems away or punch so hard that reality breaks, or simply be capable of bench pressing an entire planet.
There’s just one tiny problem with your baryon mode parasite claim
1: There have been times where parasite could no longer absorb any more of superman’s powers or life energy due to him having too much or him reaching his limit
That and he actually absorbs more then just your life energy
2: Superman has beaten parasite many times before
3: Naruto’s baryon mode has a strict time limit and to be honest, its life drain sucks
In his battle againts isshiki, he drained less then 24 hours of isshiki’s life span and isshiki only had a day to live. And even then naruto still couldn’t hold out the form long enough to keep the form going
Kurama states that naruto can’t make any reckless moves or thoughts because that would drain out their time limit faster.
Baryon mode’s life drain is really not a threat to anyone who is not about to die in a day.
In short, baryon mode would be a wasted effort which puts naruto in a terrible state after the form is over, He loses kurama, and the battle.