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One Above All vs Goku


One Above All

One Above All has some pretty “awesome” power, but in the end he’s not quite a match for Goku. Goku has the Kamehameha Wave and it does some pretty heavy duty damage. It’s not something you want to mess with. Goku has beaten guys much stronger than the One Above All and lived to tell about it. Goku wins.

Fanfic version below

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1,683 thoughts on “One Above All vs Goku”

      1. Look up the definition of Omnipotent, Omniscient, and Omnipresent. Goku stands no chance.

    1. Well, he can throw a punch and has mild flight so that would still put him above some humans. His durability is that of a senior citizen though so he has to watch out

  1. Here is a statement I found by a person who talked about TOAA. Read it.
    It’s not mine just to be clear.

    TOAA is the creator of the omniverse, what do you want more ?

    Basically, the definition of “omniverse” changes depending on who is writing this. Marvel qualified it as a “Group of alternate universes which encompasses all reality” => http://imgur.com/z3gSlzc

    Another definition: http://imgur.com/Ab3Qq2f “The is the collection of every single universes, dimension, etc. Everything is in the Omnverse, and there is one Omniverse.”

    Another one: http://imgur.com/a/uN6eX “The Omniverse is the collection of every single universe, multiverse, megaverse, dimension (alternate or pocket) and realm. This includes not only Marvel Comics, but also DC Comics, Image, Dark Horse, Archie, Harvey, and every universe ever mentioned or seen (and an infinite amount never mentioned or seen) including our own world. Everything is in the Omniverse, and there is only one Omniverse. According to the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe: Alternate Universes, “It includes every single literary, television show, movie, urban legend, universe, realm, etc. ever. It includes everyone from Popeye to Rocky Balboa to Ronald Reagan to Romeo and Juliet to Luke Skywalker to Snoopy to Jay and Silent Bob, etc.” This includes universes outside of comics, such as Star Wars, Dragon Ball Z, Hunger Games and Assassin’s Creed. The Omniverse is EVERY reality, including those published by all other companies. Even fan-fictions, cancelled works, mere fantasies, wishes of thoughts created by people, and fictional universes yet to be published are considered part of the Omniverse, simply put the Omniverse is every version of reality and existence imaginable.”

    TOAA is “the entity believed to be the supreme being creator of the Omniverse” => http://imgur.com/z3gSlzc

    TOAA didn’t appeared only with Peter Parker to eat some sandwitches. It wa stated that the Heart of the Universe is TOAA’s fragment of power: http://imgur.com/Pbmpak0 With the Heart of the Universe, he became “God” and omnipotent/omniscient/omnipresent, and he’s still below TOAA because it was a fragment of TOAA’s power, Thanos was “manipulated” by TOAA through this time.

    TOAA gave to Adam Warlock the role of the Living Tribunal, an omniversal entity: http://imgur.com/z31CcSW . The One Above All isn’t featless as many think. It doesn’t mean that those events were not canon that it wouldn’t be taken into account. TOAA is beyond all realities and dimensions, it includes non-canon stories, there is only one TOAA.

    Thanos with HOTU controled the entire omniverse http://imgur.com/Ye6ecDk, he absorbed the LT, Eternity and Infinity http://imgur.com/JSIG8lu and became God, but Thanos said himself that there was still a superior force he could not absorb, he clearly mentionned TOAA who manipulated him. http://imgur.com/c1Ldrjz TOAA > Thanos HOTU > Omniverse.

    TOAA is known as the only entity above the Living Tribunal http://imgur.com/V17hw16, LT who is on an omniversal range: http://imgur.com/dMzkFKg The spectre know the Living Tribunal, The Brothers know the LT: http://imgur.com/RbnPHCE and http://imgur.com/UesEotJ

    Many statements confirmed TOAA’s omnipotence: http://imgur.com/yNZPG39 and http://imgur.com/XROO0mq The fact that TOAA is supposed to be “God”, there’s no reason why he couldn’t be omnipotent, he represents Yahweh and the True God in all religions.

    Pre-Retcon Beyonder is supposed to be “God before there was genesis”, the Beyonder is known as to be omnipotent, so is TOAA.

      1. Not sure if this sent twice or not.

        You seem very confident that it’s just hype so I’m assuming you a proof that it is then. Don’t use “well we haven’t seen him destroy a planet or a universe” have we seen Goku destroy a planet or a universe nooooooooooooo. But we all know he can. I just use that against you so don’t think about that.

      2. Ok all this time you’ve been talking about destroying and stuff. But that’s not TOAA power. He can still destroy but not in the way most characters can. He can control everything. He can make planets and destroy them at will. He hasn’t destroyed a planet yet because he doesn’t need to. He gives every life free will as well. He doesn’t need feats he just needs statements similar to dragon ball z.

      3. Right, TOAA can make stuff but how’s that going to help in a battle? He needs something more than that to do real damage here

      4. Wait hold up. I was looking at the comments in 2017. You said Bass could only destroy an island when powering up then say he’s omniversal. Someone then says when has Goku or bass destroyed an omniverse and you say they haven’t been given the chance. Isn’t that kind of unfair since you’re all about saying TOAA has no feats really.

      5. Right, so since we haven’t seen it it’s not like that factors into the battle. Bass has already proven himself with the best feats and I’m saying the scary part is that he could be even stronger. Bass roasts all these guys although they do have good feats too I suppose

      6. So what is Bass greatest feat ever. Like his 100% if you can’t tell me or prove it this debate is a draw or a win for me. If you do have a decent feat then ok we will see.

        Also we’re staying to media cannon and statements not head or just random facts with no proof also so far you have been losing just so you know. Nobody is on your side and to win a debate you have to have people to agree with you the more that agree with you the better. Since you’re on the losing side you’re gonna have to come up with a CANNON fact about Bass and Goku that makes them on the level you say they are.

        Fair enough.

      7. Okay so for Goku his best feat is nearly ending the universe and all of reality just by throwing a punch. See his fight against Beerus in Dragon Ball Super. If he could do that from a punch then just imagine his actual energy blasts.

        As for Bass, his best ability is his Get Ability. With it he can absorb abilities and add them to his own. It also allows him complete regeneration going from massive injuries to back to full power. See Megaman NT Warrior manga volume 5.

      8. Also saying it’s all hype without any decent proof doesn’t count either.

        E.g I say a character called Bob is planet buster but then you can say that all hype because I have proof. Like a picture of Bob saying that he can’t destroy a planet.
        But if you just say we’ve never seen Tim blow up a planet so he can’t do it and there’s no acual cannon evidence that it’s not true that doesn’t count. This is how a debate goes.

        Right now you’re losing by a long shot because of people disagring to much with you but for this it’s a restart to make it fair.

        Creating is also greater than destroying. Here’s why. Anyone and I mean anyone can destroy something with ease. Like a piece of paper. But creating is far greater. You can do whatever you want with your creation like have them stand up to you in a fight. Let’s say TOAA is what you say he is weak. Ok but he could create something more powerful than the opponent in front of him and this is allowed because of his skill set. He can’t be harmed by any mortal either which is a huge advantage.

        So TOAA while not showing any feats has had statements and is omnipotent meaning he can control beings having a lot of power does not apply in a fight against TOAA.

      9. You’re still mixing up the burden of proof. You always have to assume someone can’t do something unless they prove it. The burden of proof is on the individual to show that they can do X Y and Z. TOAA has not shown anything so by default that makes it all hype until he shows something.

        Creation is great for story telling and all, but in a fight destruction is and always will be superior to it.

      10. TOAA feats come from statements. Sounds familiar. Goku and Beerus nearly destroyed the universe but they didn’t it was stated. Not a acual destroying feat. So if you want to go with statements not counting then Cell can’t destroy a solar system and Goku can’t destroy a universe. Also where did you get reality from. It clearly said universe and all universal dimensions inside. Not universe 1,2,3 etc. Only 7.

      11. Big difference there, you’re equating apples and oranges. We actually saw the universe breaking into pieces with their battles. TOAA hasn’t actually shown anything so he has nothing in terms of feats

      12. Have I won because you haven’t got back from my last comment? The one where I asked you to show me proof that TOAA is not omni-anything.

      13. Oh you haven’t ok. I was saying that can you prove to me that TOAA isn’t omni-anything. Like actual proof. If you can’t prove his statements wring then you lose.

        If you don’t want to count statements then roshi from original dragon ball could defeat Nappa.

      14. It’s not on us to prove that he isn’t omni though. It’s on him to prove that he has actual feats the way Goku has proven himself time and time again over the years

      1. Really wow. You know you’re not good at debating (no offence) but damb you made it. That’s so cool. I could never do that. Why a debating site though. I find it quite bias to your favourite characters. Maybe if it wasn’t I’m pretty sure it will be much bigger.

      2. No worries none taken. I’ve been stomping people in debates for years at this point.

        Debating’s always been a lot of fun so I figured I’d make the site to show people who would really win in these classic fights. Ending the debate once and for all as Death Battle would say

      3. Also I’m that same guy that called you 3. Sorry about that making a fricken website is like god’s stuff. Still most you’re posts in it are bias. So be careful because you’re bound to get hate.

  2. This is an entire cannon article about Bass someone you said could solo fiction. Why should people listen to you if you have fake evidence and no real proof other than being a 3 year old about it. Just admit you’re wrong.

    Later on, Bass and Treble are seen again at Shade Man’s stage, after purposely getting themselves injured in battle. Bass then starts putting himself down, saying that he feels stupid to have been beaten so easily, and that he should probably leave Wily to Mega Man. Mega Man responds by telling him that “[they’re] a team”, and that Dr. Light will be glad to fix him up. Bass and Treble then warp away to Dr. Light’s lab to get repaired. Sometime later, after the repairs were finished, Mega Man comes back to the lab to find that it’s been trashed, and that the culprit behind it was none other than Bass. Dr. Light then tells him that Bass stole all the parts for the “new enhancements” as well. Shortly afterward, Dr. Wily appears on the monitor and reveals that Bass and Treble are his creations, and that he used Bass to get closer to Mega Man, so that he could earn his trust, and then steal the Super Adapter blueprints, so that he could use that enhancement for Bass and Treble.

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    Bass and Treble’s fusion, as it appears in Mega Man 7.
    Bass is encountered again for the third time at the first stage of Dr. Wily’s castle, where he’s once again fought as a mini-boss. The two of them have a battle, and Mega Man manages to defeat him. Bass then swears revenge, saying that he’ll be back. He, of course, stays true to his word, as he is encountered for a fourth time at the very next Wily Castle stage. This time, he performs a fusion with Treble, and tries to destroy Mega Man with the very enhancements that he stole, which were meant for Mega Man and Rush. After a hard fight, Bass is once again defeated, and warps away. He and Treble aren’t seen again until the ending, where they save Dr. Wily when Mega Man was about to kill him, with Bass stating that, “He who hesitates is lost.”

    Bass also appears as a playable character in the hidden two-player battle mode.

    Mega Man: Battle & Chase
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    Bass racing against Mega Man in Mega Man: Battle & Chase
    Bass appears as a playable character that uses the vehicle Treble Darkstar, a balanced machine with the attacks Bass Buster and Bass Blast. He entered the Battle & Chase contest to race against Mega Man. When not playing as Bass in Grand Prix mode, the player will face him as the penultimate opponent before Dr. Wily. If Bass wins the contest, he isn’t satisfied for defeating Mega Man as it was just a race, and wants to defeat him in a real battle. In the Japanese version, Wily contacts Bass and asks him for the prize money, but he ignores Wily and leaves the money in a beach.

    Mega Man 8
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    Mega Man and Bass prepare to face off once again in Mega Man 8.
    “I’m not the same weakling anymore! I’ve got new powers!”
    ―Bass, Mega Man 8
    Bass is first seen at the very beginning of the game in the cutscenes, alongside Treble, fighting against Mega Man and Rush. After Mega Man questions their reasons for fighting, Bass responds by attempting to shoot him, prompting Mega Man to dodge the attack and return fire, knocking Bass into an elevator shaft and causing him to be tied up in steel cables. The battle was soon interrupted by Roll when she informed Mega Man about what was going on, causing Mega Man to leave. Bass then frees himself by tearing off the steel cables and destroying a falling elevator cabin above with a buster shot, before vowing revenge.

    However, Bass shows up again later on, and fights against Mega Man in the third level of the Wily Tower. Although Mega Man had warned him not to do so, Bass used Evil Energy to power up his attacks, and assume a stronger form of his Treble Boost. Here, he has no weakness, although the Flash Bomb can hit him multiple times. Mega Man manages to defeat him once again and Bass then vows never to give up trying to defeat Mega Man, before teleporting out.

    Mega Man & Bass
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    Bass fighting against Mother Mukamukade at Ground Man’s stage in Mega Man & Bass.
    “What I’ve fought for? That is ridiculous. I don’t need a reason to fight. I have and am going to fight only to destroy Megaman!!”
    ―Bass, Mega Man & Bass
    A robot calling himself King attacked and took over the recently built Wily Castle, declaring he was the strongest robot and that robots were superior to humans, thus he wanted to create a nation of robots without humans. Mega Man ​​is sent by Dr. Light to stop King, and Bass, who took offense to King’s claims of being the strongest robot, embarks on yet another mission to destroy the Robot Masters (as well as King himself) before Mega Man can, so that he could prove that he’s the strongest, and to get Wily’s Castle back.

    Bass, of course, does manage to defeat them. After using all eight of the Robot Masters’ powers to open the Crystal Gate to King’s castle, Bass goes through it and destroys all obstacles in his way, and eventually comes across King himself. King congratulates Bass for making it that far into the castle, and then engages Bass in combat. King, wielding a shield with reflective abilities, used that to absorb Bass’ blasts and send them right back at him in the form of a powerful laser beam. Because of this device, King was seemingly unstoppable. That is, until Proto Man appeared and used his powerful “Big Bang Strike” ability. Due to the fact that Proto Man used nearly all of his power on that attack, it was too much energy for King’s shield to absorb, which led into it getting destroyed, as well as King getting hit and weakened by it in the process. No longer in possession of that shield, Bass’ attacks actually began to do some damage, and he ended up defeating King.

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    Bass fighting against King in Mega Man & Bass.
    King then questions Bass, asking why he’s fighting for “lowly beings” like the humans, and tells him that robots are more advanced than them. Bass then tells him not to forget that humans are the ones who created robots. After that, King asks Bass to finish him off, but first teleports an unconscious Proto Man out of the fortress. Bass then asks King who created him, and King answers him by telling him that Dr. Wily was his creator, which shocks Bass. Shortly afterwards, Dr. Wily appears on the monitor, scolding King for helping an enemy, and telling him to finish Bass off. King refuses, and then Dr. Wily uses a device to increase his “brainwashing” (and supposedly enhancing King’s power in the process). King’s armor then changes from gold to a violet coloring, and then he breaks through the wall and enters the next room. Bass follows him, only to find King fusing with the giant blue machines that he fought while he was at King’s fortress. Bass engages King in combat once more, and defeats him once again. After that, King tells Bass to get out of the castle quickly before it explodes while he’s in it. Bass, in a rare display of humanity, shows concern for King, asking about his safety. King told Bass that he would make it out of the castle somehow, but after Bass leaves. Bass quickly warps out of the castle, leaving King behind. During King’s “last” words, before he’s supposedly destroyed, he says that he and Bass could have probably been good friends. After that, the castle explodes, seemingly killing King and burying him under rubble.

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    Bass using the Treble Boost adapter in Mega Man & Bass.
    After his victory over King, Bass decides to go to Dr. Wily’s newly built laboratory to challenge him out of anger of being deceived and betrayed. Bass once again manages to overcome all obstacles in his path, including the newly resurrected Robot Masters, and eventually came face to face with the doctor himself. Dr. Wily then thanks Bass for getting rid of King, and then told him that he was going to put a restraining bolt on him before he goes haywire like King did. The two of them engage one another in combat, and Dr. Wily is eventually defeated, and starts bowing to Bass, pleading for mercy. Bass then holds Wily at gunpoint, demanding an explanation for creating King. According to Dr. Wily, he created King to test Bass’ abilities. He supposedly designed King with the intention of creating the most powerful robot in the world, and since Bass destroyed him, he has proven himself as the strongest. Bass scoffs at him, telling him that it was a “lame excuse”, and then Dr. Wily changes the subject by revealing his plans for a second model of King. He told Bass that if he joins King II, then the two of them will be unstoppable. Before Bass could answer, however, Proto Man arrives and destroys the plans. Angered, Dr. Wily orders Bass to destroy Proto Man, but he refuses. Proto Man then asks Bass if he would rather destroy Mega Man with his own power. After that, he decides to give Bass a lecture, saying that he will never defeat Mega Man because he has “nothing to fight for”. Bass then gets angry about it, telling Proto Man to get lost, in which he does. After that, Bass scoffs at Proto Man, saying that he doesn’t need a reason to fight, and will continue fighting to destroy Mega Man.

    Rockman & Forte: Mirai Kara no Chousensha
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    Bass fighting R-Shadow in Rockman and Forte: Mirai Kara no Chousensha.
    A group of futuristic robots calling themselves the Dimensions attacked Symphony City, a city where robots and humans lived together in peace. The one leading the Dimensions was Rockman Shadow, a robot very similar to Mega Man. Mega Man heard this news at Dr. Light’s laboratory and goes to the scene, while at the same time Wily sends Bass to see who this evil Mega Man was. Bass agrees to help Mega Man stop the robots because Wily’s laboratory was near the city.

    After Bass defeated the Grey Devil in Rockman Shadow’s robot factory, Rockman Shadow tells Bass he will reveal his true identity if he can defeat his underlings. Bass manages to defeat all the Robot Masters and Rockman Shadow reveals to him he is a robot like Quint that Wily created when he traveled to the future. Rockman Shadow then offers Bass to join him to destroy the real Mega Man, and that way he will be truly the strongest. Bass rejects the offer and says he will do things his way, first of which to destroy Rockman Shadow. The two of them engage in a “battle to the death” and Rockman Shadow is eventually defeated. Before dying, he tells Bass that after Quint’s defeat, he was the only robot left. He increased his strength, and devastated the world. As nothing was able to stop him in the future, he traveled back in time to find someone that could defeat him. He also tells Bass that seeking strength is not the way of robots, because even if Bass crushes his enemy, a superior one will always appear until he ends up dead like him. Bass admits it was a good lesson and he and Mega Man bury Rockman Shadow, before leaving Bass tells Mega Man that he will forgive his life at the time, but tells him to not forget that he (Bass) is the strongest. Bass later is shown in the game ending credits with Treble taking a nap and in the ending picture with Dr. Light’s team and Rockman Shadow.[2]

    Mega Man 9
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    Bass’ blueprints shown during the ending of Mega Man 9.
    Although Bass didn’t make a physical appearance in this game, he does make a small cameo in the ending. His blueprints can be seen in the background on Dr. Wily’s computer. Supposedly, he was undergoing adjustments during the events of the game for Mega Man 10.[3]

    Mega Man 10
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    Bass and Treble’s descriptions in the Wii’s manual for Mega Man 10.
    “You just never give up with your half-brained plans for world domination.”
    ―Bass, Mega Man 10
    As with Proto Man in Mega Man 9, Bass was confirmed as a playable character in Mega Man 10 unlockable through downloadable content after paying a small fee (original release) or available after unlocking the DLC content (Legacy Collection 2). According to the Mega Man 10 operations manual, he can shoot in 7 directions like he did in Mega Man & Bass.[4] Unlike the Proto Man Mode in Mega Man 9, Bass has a story in this game and a store featuring Reggae as the owner, even though there are less items in the store and the remaining items cost more. As always, he was fighting the Robot Masters to prove that he’s the strongest.

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    Bass mode promo
    Sometime during his journey through Dr. Wily’s castle, Bass succumbs to the Roboenza virus and collapses to the floor. However, Treble came to his rescue by giving him one of the prototype cures that he stole from Dr. Wily, and Bass was able to recover and continue his journey through the castle. He eventually came face to face with Dr. Wily, and defeated him once again. Afterward, he mocks him for his “half-brained plans for world domination”. It was then revealed that Dr. Wily caught the flu, but Bass assumed that it was Roboenza. Dr. Wily then assures him that it isn’t Roboenza (due to the fact that it only affects robots, rather than humans). Seemingly, Bass just left Dr. Wily there to suffer. However, it was later revealed that Dr. Wily was taken to the hospital by unknown circumstances.

      1. EXE is non cannon. Also there’s no such thing as someone that can solo fiction even TOAA can’t (you may not believe it but there’s millions of people that TOAA is one of the strongest characters in fiction and since I’m going with cannon statements in actual comic that THE CREATORS BELIEVE THEMSELVES them your opinion is quite weak. It’s strong though I will admit that.

  3. Agreed, Goku can wipe the floor with all of Marvel if he wanted to. There is nothing to prove that TOAA is the “Creator” of the Omniverse, even if he did, that doesn’t make you powerful. Not only that, but Peter Parker punched TOAA when he startled him, God wouldn’t go down that easily. Thanos also used the Astral Regulator to wipe the floor with The One Above All. Goku is far above both of those guys by a ton! TOAA’s got nothing on goku!

  4. How could u say such l,
    That’s absurd how could u say such
    C’mon even by his name u should no his incomparable especially with demi creatures
    He could create a mindless goku with goku’ s powers that would give the real goku a hard time or create two that would actually kill goku

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